swim wants to feel X again.

[tooblue4you]

Swim used to do X alot in the late 90s early 00s. So its been a long time. Recently swim has turned into a coke head so to speak every weeknd sometimesw week nights. But wants more bang for his buck.

From what he can remember a double/triple drop really did the trick!

The thing is the pills about now are about a 5th of the price they used to be. Has the UK XTC quality gone down.

And the trusted dealers dont sell X no morem just young kids on the street.

[Nature Boy]

Ecstasy is a lot cheaper and generally of lower quality compared to the 90's. Of course there are huge potential variation margins from batch to batch so some pills around these days could still be very high in MDMA content. The best bet is to try and find a source for pure MDMA crystal/powder.

[tooblue4you]

yeah, swim is cautious of buying from an unknow source. swim used to get ones with mitsubishi stamps on them and 2 would do you over for a long time.

[kone]

Originally Posted by tooblue4you

yeah, swim is cautious of buying from an unknow source. swim used to get ones with mitsubishi stamps on them and 2 would do you over for a long time.

SWIM completely agrees, I remember early 90's, one would keep him buzzing all night long.

SWIM thinks it's a pity those days are gone

[chAos]

Swim heard this is only the case in belgium and the netherlands, but at the moment MDMA is very easy to get here (much easier to get as pills for swim)

[tooblue4you]

Well swim managed to get ahold of a gram of mdma and has just hit a smallish line back less than 100mg. gonna wait and see what effects it has. what would be the recommended doseage?

[Nagognog2]

A standard entactogenic dose of pure MDMA is between 120mg - 140mg. A redose of 40mg to extend the peak effects may be taken at 1 hour to 1 1/2 hour after original dose.

[tooblue4you]

Well without too much detail as its annoying i know, swim hasrnt felt like this for a good 5 years and right about now he is feeling so so good. roll on

[kone]

SWIY is a lucky bar-steward )

[tooblue4you]

Yeah kone swim is......

In comparison to the pills from the late 90s this was as good if not better.

As swim had not done it for so long it hit him like a tonne of bricks but he had forgotten what it was like. In the end he did about 250/300mg and was rolling for a good 5 hours.

Intense euphoria and energy but at the same time felt nice to just sit and listen to some hard trance. Some interesting visuals as well nothing to major but some nicepshcadelic patterns .

All this for the price of half a gram of cola which would last for couple hours at most. Although swim could not have been in a social setting when on mdma apart from a rave etc.

[kone]

Sounds very nice

[jim1965]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

A standard entactogenic dose of pure MDMA is between 120mg - 140mg. A redose of 40mg to extend the peak effects may be taken at 1 hour to 1 1/2 hour after original dose.

nagognog2, SWIM is having real difficulty getting dose right for his Monkey and friends. i cant find where i read it on forum, but is there a weight mdma/body weight recommended dose - im sure i read it somewhere but struggling to find info?

[chAos]

Originally Posted by jim1965

nagognog2, SWIM is having real difficulty getting dose right for his Monkey and friends. i cant find where i read it on forum, but is there a weight mdma/body weight recommended dose - im sure i read it somewhere but struggling to find info?

Swim has only done mdma once (about 120mg and he is 80kg) but some of swims friends take mdma from time to time. It seems that 100mg is a good dose to try it out for everyone swim knows .

[Nagognog2]

Jim: It's supposed to be based on what it interacts with above the shoulders - the brain. So, unless one is a microencephalac (pinhead), the 120 - 140mg dosage is correct. With MDMA more is not better. More is inviting an anxiety-attack and an uptight, nerve-wracking trip down Personal Fear Lane.

[jim1965]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Jim: It's supposed to be based on what it interacts with above the shoulders - the brain. So, unless one is a microencephalac (pinhead), the 120 - 140mg dosage is correct. With MDMA more is not better. More is inviting an anxiety-attack and an uptight, nerve-wracking trip down Personal Fear Lane.

thanks nagognog2...SWIM needs to use the grey matter more often - i see the light!

[The Doors]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Jim: It's supposed to be based on what it interacts with above the shoulders - the brain. So, unless one is a microencephalac (pinhead), the 120 - 140mg dosage is correct. With MDMA more is not better. More is inviting an anxiety-attack and an uptight, nerve-wracking trip down Personal Fear Lane.

Would it be possible that it could take more MDMA for someone with a more "powerful" mind so to speak or someone who is well aware of himself and the world. SWIM is asking because he doesnt seem to always get the effects while everyone else is rolling off their asses. SWIM knows it could be linked to a mind block but is still curious.

[Nagognog2]

Higher amounts MIGHT work to break through a "resistant" person. But after a certain level, physiological effects take over and create an anxiety-filled experience. As well as other rather toxic effects like a weird sense of both deja-vu and amnesia. The amount for this varies from person to person. Some people get this with 160mg. Others can take 200mg with no ill effect. This is assuming pure MDMA. Pills are another story - who knows what's in those? Just the manufacturer and they rarely say much to anyone.

[jim1965]

good info Nagognog2...SWIM's monkey got a hold of 1 gram (4 moths ago) of the stuff...monkey stupidly split it roughly into 10 thinking all was well - no scales - doh!! well, SWIM's monkey ended up taking approx >200 mg and had horrible experience...he tells SWIM that he had uncontrollable eye wiggle, severe vomiting and just had to go back to his Monkey bed to sleep it off, this after prepping v.well, taking 1st thing in morning etc....no good affects at all. in fact, SWIM wonders if this episode has fried Monkeys brain so Monkey cant/wont ever get the magic again

SWIM invested in .01g scales and all's well with Monkey since, but never gets the quality experience that he used to get - same batch of material.

60 mg for Monkey the other week felt nice he says, but hence the Q on best weight to give him!