Choice between OC20 and Morphine 15's

[weekender2]

Question for SWIY'all: Suppose SWIY had a ready, trusted, WAY below retail source of 20mg Oxy's - enough to support a recreational habit with ease. Further suppose SWIY had, as coincidence would have it, just as ready, trusted, and inexpensive a source of Morphine Sulphate 15's. The quantities of each are sufficient to the extent that, for the purposes of this question, there's no need to worry about a pill-to-pill equity, but that for the sake of self-control SWIY would only want one flavor of opiate in the house at once. Which one would SWIY pick, given the choice - and why?

Pax,
Weekender

[fnord]

snorting=OC shooting=morphine

[Laudaphun]

SWIM would take the OC either way over a time release morphine. SWIM agrees with the snort=OC and shoot=morph but SWIM has found time release preparations of morphine cumbersome to inject. Once when a terminally ill member SWIM's family passed away, SWIM inherited a bottle of 10mg morphine sulfate little pellet looking things... The pills were TINY, had no markings, and did not even look identical... just tiny little pellets. SWIM would have been suspicious had they been from any other source, but they were 100% definitely from a hospitol pharmacy. The pills ... or pellets were completely soluable in water, just like knoll dilaudids. Anyways, if the morphine was in this form, SWIM would take it over the OC... otherwise he'd take the OC.

[pokeyjo304]

swim would take the OC anyday, just because he likes snorting and doesnt like needles, swim has shot morphine and must say that it was pretty intesne and enjoyable, but he would still take the OC over the morphine anyday, especially since they are just 15's.

[SilverM]

Crushing and eating the OC's is the way to go. MS is very much destroyed in a person's system as compared to OC, which has like an 87% bioavailability.

Crush and eat the OC 20s without a doubt.

[addicted2hc]

In SWIM's experience, OC all the way. SWIM ate a XR 30mg Morphine a few hours after doing a 40 OC and didnt feel any increased effects at all. The only feelings experienced were nausea the next day. Weak.

[DrMuffy]

Well it depends on if SWIY is comfortable with rectal administration. If SWIY is comfortable with rectal aministration SWIdr suggests SWIY morphine, but if not then go wth the OCs. Rectal administration is easy and its almost like the rush SWIY gets from shooting it up. But its up to SWIY....

[addicted2hc]

You can rectally administer OCs? Do you have to lick the coating off or what?

[DrMuffy]

Originally Posted by addicted2hc

You can rectally administer OCs? Do you have to lick the coating off or what?

Yes, one can rectally administer OC (and help their bioavailability). Its best to suck the coating off first and does require other intruments to perform a succesful recal administration. SWIdr has a thread on instructions of rectal adminitration if SWIY is interested (it is towards the top of the opiates/opiods forum).
The reason why SWIdr mentioned rectal administration in this thread, is that morphine, while not very bioavailable when taken orally, can produce very powerful effects when rectally administered.

PS- SWIY might want to check out SWImrjim's thread on different opiate bioavailabilities through different routes of administration, which is also towards the top of the opiates/opiods forum.

[RTR]

Swim would choose the OC over Morphine due to the ease of Oral administration.

[DrMuffy]

^^^^^^
Yes SWIdr would agree that 20 mgs Oxycontin is better absorbed orally than 15 mgs Morphine. But if the origional poster is comforable with rectal administration, SWIdr would suggest the 15 mgs Morphine. First of all (in rectal administration) one absorbs way more morphine (70%-90%) than oral administration (15%-30%), secondly, one will get a rush simalar to IV administration without all the dangers, and last but not least, morphine is more powerful (compared mg to mg) than oxycodone so a lower dose is required for the same effects (considering they are absorbed at the same rate). SWIdr is not sure on the tolerance rate of each drug, so that may also be an important choice factor, which the origional poster should look up.

[DrMuffy]

Originally Posted by SilverM

Damn DrMuffy you are like totally obsessed with the rectal administration. The original poster NEVER mentioned it ever and it's safe to say the entire time, he was referring to oral administration like most NORMAL people.

Sorry muff BUT (no pun intended) unlike you, the majority of us feel our asses are EXIT ONLY!!! Have fun though.

Haha, have it your way . Exactly SWIdr's point "The original poster NEVER mentioned it ever and it's safe to say the entire time" so he never ruled out other forms of administration. Sorry if SWIY is not comfortable with his rectum, but SWIdr is just trying to spread the word about just another perfectly fine form of administration. One last thing, SWIdr is not obsessed with rectal administration, its just that he is NOT as close-minded as some others.

Anyways this is getting off topic, so lets get back on, shall we?

[DrMuffy]

Originally Posted by SilverM

Dude, your first AND third posts are almost complete repeats.

1st: "Well it depends on if SWIY is comfortable with rectal administration. If SWIY is comfortable with rectal aministration SWIdr suggests SWIY morphine, but if not then go wth the OCs....."

3rd: "Yes SWIdr would agree that 20 mgs Oxycontin is better absorbed orally than 15 mgs Morphine. But if the origional poster is comforable with rectal administration, SWIdr would suggest the 15 mgs Morphine........"

On top of the fact you like, just bring the idea out of nowhere!

Well SWIdr guesses you've never been to a bona fide forum before... Thats kinda what they are for......bringing ideas to the table. Anyways you are making us get off topic, again, so why don't we get back to the first topic....okay?

[shaunclo]

SWIdr is completely right, plugging (or rectal administration) is the way to go with morphine. Dont knock it till you try it! There are many many ways of using opiates, and swallowing them is a waste of time if you have a needless syringe. Talk shit all ya want, but it is the safest most efficient way of getting all swiy drugs at once. VIVA LA PLUGGING! Unless swiy is all backed up, then it is probably a waste of time.

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I am glad there are some people out their that can stand the fact of rectal administration!

[DrMuffy]

Originally Posted by shaunclo

SWIdr is completely right, plugging (or rectal administration) is the way to go with morphine. Dont knock it till you try it! There are many many ways of using opiates, and swallowing them is a waste of time if you have a needless syringe. Talk shit all ya want, but it is the safest most efficient way of getting all swiy drugs at once. VIVA LA PLUGGING! Unless swiy is all backed up, then it is probably a waste of time.

Exactly my point! The discussion is about a decision between what substance the user should choose. He never specifed ANY kind or administration. So the choice would depend solely on the user's comfort level when it comes to rectal admin. because it is: safer (than IM or IV), create more of a rush, easy (for some people, and increases morphines absorption rate ALOT. Oxycodone would be more effective oral, since oral Morphine has a (roughly) 15% bioavailibility. SWIdr is glad there are some people out their that can stand the fact of rectal administration!