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Old 26-02-2004, 03:00
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Making Cocaine freebase with ammonia methods



Hi, i read the post "how to make crack" andit looks like freebase is easier to make than crack. Is this true?


And like i said i read the post but want to know---does anybody have any tips/ anything to watch out for while making base?


any info is helpful. thanks!
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yeah, thanks for the answer but the info you wrote was pretty much all in the original post, so i'll ask this:


anybody have tips on making crack? i bought a 50mL beaker today, is this big enough or should i get a bigger one?

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Old 26-02-2004, 23:32
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<blockquote>Originally posted by jibjib on 26 February 2004<hr>
...*it looks like freebase is easier to make than crack. Is this true

... does anybody have any tips/ anything to watch out for while making base?<hr></blockquote>

No! It's NOT easier, but the quality is better.



If you're going to base, do it in a well vented area. You want air to have constant inflow & outflow. Best to use forced-air in BOTH directions.



Place base solution outside (away from home & people) to settle. Make sure it's away from electricity, heat, and flame.



Don't use grocery-store brand ammonia. Must use ammonia hydroxide as pure as possible for best results.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>


Ok thanks for the answer, thats good stuff. I'm definatelyNOTgonna try base yet.I read this in the last post:


Crack is usually made by mixing two parts of cocaine with one part baking soda in about 20 ml of water.
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So it's 2 parts coke and 1 part baking soda??? I read in an earlier post by Woodman to use 4 parts coke and 1 part baking soda. I'm not sure what to try now. So is it 2 parts or 4 parts?


And is there any other advice or anything i might f**k up when i try to make some good stuff? any info is good. thanks</BLOCKQUOTE>
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Old 27-02-2004, 01:02
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Your original post referred to base.



NOW, you're referring to crack.



Freebase = ether extraction



Crack = bakingsoda extraction.



The ratio is 4:1 but you have margin of error up to 3:1

Just make sure you don't use too much water. The amount of water you use will vary depending upon how much coke you have. I was VERY specific in post "This is How To Make Crack". Just read the directions & follow the recipe.



If you need convincing, then try a small amount first. Be warned, though; if you use that 20 ml of water then you can kiss your coke goodbye!

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ok thanks Woodman, I did read all your instructions and they are very clear. I just wanted to ask for any last minute tipsso I don't f**k up and waste my money.I'll try it tonight and tell let you how it wenttomorrow. if theres anything else let me know ok. thanks
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Woodman I'm so glad you know what your talking about! thanks. I'm gonna try 1/4 gram first and let you know how it goes.


What size beaker do you recommend using? and when you say 1/4" of water being added to the hardened bubbles, how much is that? I mean1/4" is different amount depending on the width of thebeaker.thanks again
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That 1/4 inch of water is for the SECOND heating stage, NOT for the first. I just want to make that absolutely clear, and the beaker diameter should be 1inch to 1.75inch. If you have an odd size beaker, you can make it work just as well, so long as you understand the practical end of the process.

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The main things to consider are the 1.) cokeoda ratio, and 2.) the water that you add in the first stage.



Make sure it (the mixture of coke, soda, & water) is only slightly thinner than mud consistency, like really WET mud. Mix it well so both powders are fully incorporated into a consistent sludge (absolutely no chunks of coke or soda) BEFORE heating.



Heat slowly until boiling bubbles form for 3-5 seconds, then remove from heat.



You'll then have hardened crack-bubbles and can go to work on the 2nd stage.



The 2nd heating stage is to turn the rock bubbles into a solid rock.



If made right, crack hardens as it cools. For this stage, you add just enough water for the reheated blob of coke-goo to be able to swim in until it can cool and hardened up into a solid Mass. About 1/4"-1/2" of water should do.



If there's not enough water at this 2nd stage, your coke might cool and harden against the sides or bottom of the beaker. Not really a problem, just damned inconvenient to scrape it off the glass because it clings to it. If this happens, empty all of the water from the beaker. Dip the bottom end of the beaker into a pot of hot tap water for a few seconds until the glass gets hot enough to melt the bond of the crack sticking to it. Then tap the mouth of the beaker upside down in your hand and the rock will literally fall into your hand.



Remember, now, this is just for informational purposes. I mean I wouldn't want you to go breaking the law or anything like that.
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Old 27-02-2004, 20:37
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ive seen people do it in a spoon b4 i think after the first stage you scrape it off with a coin and its done
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So yeah, now I've tried it many times and couldn't get good results. I wasted 1.5g last night.I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Maybe the stuff I've got to work with is mixed or something. I don't think it is tho.


When I smoked it, it just wasn't any good and there is some weird taste to it. It melts down right but it doesn't have that nice smell that it should and my body doesn't react to it like it should. Heartbeat stays the same, no sweating, no good feelings.


I heat it let boil, let it cool and harden, then add more water and heat again while swirling the beaker around. I have no idea how to tell when its done! Isn't there supposed to besome kind of reaction?It doesn't seem to react at all. The only thing that happens is the hardened bubbles stuck to the bottom come loose and form tons of tiny "crystals." I let it cool, push all the cystals to the edge of the beaker and spoon it out and let it dry.


If I heat it just a bit, the crystals stay white. If I heat it a lot, the crystals turn light blue. Is that normal? I tried heating it till the crystals turn to oil, then let the crystalize but f**k nothing works.


Any ideas?
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Old 28-02-2004, 01:21
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<blockquote>Originally posted by jibjib on 28 February 2004 I have no idea how to tell when its done! Isn't there supposed to be*some kind of reaction?*It doesn't seem to react at all. The only thing that happens is the hardened bubbles stuck to the bottom come loose and form tons of tiny "crystals."<hr></blockquote><hr>
That's why you heat it a second time!

The crystals melt in the water and turn into a yellow goo.

You're supposed to swirl the glass in such a manner as to keep the crack blob in the center. As the water cools, the crack blob will harden into a solid rock. When you hear it "clinking" against the side of the glass, it's done.



<blockquote>Originally posted by jibjib on 28 February 2004 ... The only thing that happens is the hardened bubbles stuck to the bottom come loose and form tons of tiny "crystals." I let it cool, push all the cystals to the edge of the beaker and spoon it out and let it dry.<hr></blockquote><hr>
By "bubbles" I assume you mean independent little blobs of crack-goo. If you want them to come together, you have to heat the water and swirl it gently until they amalgamate into a single mass, then continue swirling until it cools. Remember, the whole REASON for the 2nd heating is to consolidate all the coke into a single rock.



If you're having a hard time swirl-cooling, it is possible to simply rest the bottle to diagonally so that the crack blob will settle into the bottom rim of the beaker. If this is the case then the beaker should not be disturbed once the blob is consolidated and set to cool.



<blockquote>Originally posted by jibjib on 28 February 2004If I heat it just a bit, the crystals stay white. If I heat it a lot, the crystals turn light blue. Is that normal? I tried heating it till the crystals turn to oil, then let the crystalize but f**k nothing works.<hr></blockquote><hr>
It sounds to me like you're burning baking soda. This shouldn't happen.

<blockquote>Originally posted by jibjib on 28 February 2004<hr>
... When I smoked it, it just wasn't any good and there is some weird taste to it. It melts down right but it doesn't have that nice smell that it should and my body doesn't react to it like it should.<hr></blockquote>

See, this is why I'm confused. On the one hand you're saying it burns & melts, on the other hand you seem to be saying it doesn't burn & melt.



We really need to talk because i need more information on exactly What happened; what you did and how you did it.



Obviously something worked because you were able to yield hits. I'll p/m you.
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Old 28-02-2004, 01:29
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Yeah, i get what your saying but I never get this yellow goo your describing. It's either white substance or if i keepheating itturns to oil.


I guess this is where I'm stuck cause I don't get the reaction your talking about.


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Old 28-02-2004, 01:39
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The reaction is simple.



You mix two powders, add a little water, and heat it up.



It hardens-up as it cools, but it has bubbled air & water pockets in the bubble voids. So you have to heat it again to consolidate it into a solid rock.



The 2nd heating causes the crack to consolidate, then it cools and you have a solid crack rock.



If that's not it, then please explain what "reaction" you're referring to?



oh!!</font>The oil! YES! That's your Crack blob!

It will look like oil in water at first. Most times it's yellow.



During the 2nd heating, when you see the melted oil blob, just make sure it stays together until the water cools.



btw, I p/m'ed you. are you receiving?
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Old 28-02-2004, 01:48
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Ok the first part where I get the powders to harden is fine. Then when I add water and reheat i just get a bunch of tiny flakes all on the surface and some just below the surface. It seems impossible to get them to join together. No matter how much I swirl the beaker ,its just a whole tons of tiny tiny flakes floating around.


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Old 28-02-2004, 01:54
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How much baking soda did you use?





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Old 28-02-2004, 01:58
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I tried using 4 parts coke, 1 part baking soda most attempts. Other times I used 3 parts coke, 1 part baking soda. Also tried 2 coke, 1 baking soda. Same results. It must be the stuff I bought i mean I'm not stupid. Your instructions were clear and I followed them. But then I get to the part that I'm supposed to get a yellow glob floating around but that just never happens.I just get tons of tiny white flakes and if i keep heating those flakes they turn to oil.
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Old 28-02-2004, 02:00
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It does harden up in the first stage, though, right?



i know you're not stupid. Just trying to find what went wrong.
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First stage it definately hardens up. And when I do smoke all the little crystals, I feel something but it's just sooo slight. Nothing like it should be.


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No, not as important as the first.



Are the flakes present even when the solution is hot?



...or does the cooling process reveal them?
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<TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off">Ok about the only thing I haven't told you is that I used a lighter instead of the cotton ball you suggested. I tried the cotton ball at first but kept burning myself, so I just used a lighter. Could it be that the temp of the water never got hot enough by using the ligher?</TD></TR>
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No, If it turned hard in the first heat, you were obviously doing it right.



I just can't figure it out. I'll need some time to try to piece together the reason(s) for this.



We should stay in touch. There's got to be others who've experienced this. I'll drop you a p/m as soon as I come up with something.
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will rocks still form if u used the same method but without the cocaine?
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NO!



I PM'ed jibjib and from what I understand he seems to have gotten a bad load.



Rocks should NEVER turn blue! That's just weird!
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