Methylphenidate is not always safe.

[hh339]

SWIM experienced semi-severe heart complications today, caused by methylphenidate. SWIM took the best solution he could come to think of, 2 mg of alprazolam. He's sworn himself from benzo's but this time it was not an issue of getting high, even if he did. I would like to warn you all about this, though it seems fairly unusual to have this happen to you, anyway: Keep some benzo's at hand just in case, gotta sleep now, later. Love / hh

[fnord]

what was your dosage/duration?do you have anyhistory of heart probles in you or your family?what were these problems,more info please!also what other meds/herbs were you on.what was teh setting?

[hh339]

Originally Posted by fnord

what was your dosage/duration?do you have anyhistory of heart probles in you or your family?what were these problems,more info please!also what other meds/herbs were you on.what was teh setting?

No history of known heart-problems. Dosage lately: Occasional mild heart-issues at 72 mgs a day, taken as prescribed without insufflating or injecting. Then dose was adjusted to 54 mgs in the morning, followed by 36 mgs around noon. Heart problems went worse. WAY to high pulse, itching at the heart region, severely pounding heart. No other meds were used at the time of this treatment.

This has been the perfect doses for SWIM, lowering the dose would have been pointless because then the desired effect would have been way too weak. SWIM was at 108 + 18 mgs a day for a while before all of this, with no warnings of health problems att all. Benzo's fixed this temporarily this time, but hell SWIM won't play around with this anymore, except for snorting a few at rare occations. Hope this answered your questions. / hh

[fnord]

mixxing downers with uppers just eneds to masks the effects of each other which is bad beause it can mask the warning signs of an overdose.stop takeing it for a while like 2 weeks then start back up,the chems are probly just building up in your body causeing yu to have a higer then normal dose,i think ive got a artical somwwhere around here ill get back to you.

[hh339]

That'd be nice!

[pillz]

fnord,swim thinks is right. mixing uppers and downers isnt a good thing. although itisnt heroin mixed with cocaine... still gives like a "speedball" effect. think about it, the methylphenidate is speeding swiys heart up and then the benzo is slowing it down, causing both meds to counteract eachother. speedballing with heavy drugs is far different from this, but to some extent (very little) is doing the similar thing.

[foggyguy]

Exactly what is the heart complications SWIM had?

It's so vague. Is it just palpitation? Or is there more to it? Did the heart enlarge?

[hh339]

Originally Posted by foggyguy

Exactly what is the heart complications SWIM had?

It's so vague. Is it just palpitation? Or is there more to it? Did the heart enlarge?

Itching chest, HIGH pulse, heart and chest hurt like a M-F. SWiM's right arm went numb also. Weird.

[foggyguy]

Originally Posted by hh339

Itching chest, HIGH pulse, heart and chest hurt like a M-F. SWiM's right arm went numb also. Weird.

Well, that's a common side effect if taken in large doses. It's saying, "Too much!"

High blood pressure and heart rate go up just a little if recommended dose is taken. More than that, they will go much higher.

Right arm going numb, not sure about it. A true heart attack often gives pain in the LEFT arm (but it can happen in the right arm).

SWIM should see a doctor. He can detect any cardiac damages on a EKG (it would often show abnormal results because of tissue damage).

[IntrepidTraveler]

Originally Posted by hh339

Itching chest, HIGH pulse, heart and chest hurt like a M-F. SWiM's right arm went numb also. Weird.

SWIM has dabbled in some recreational Ritalin use, and has had some pretty bad side effects. He gets chest pains like SWIY and also terrible stomach aches--when he comes down it usually feels like a coke crash after a binge on some really shitty blow, but nothing beyond this. SWIM isn't a medical professional, but numbing extremities sounds like a very serious side effect! Was this methylphenidate obtained on a legal script? If so, SWIM will boldly state the obvious and suggest that SWIY talk to his doctor. Beyond that, SWIM will try later today to ask his mom, who's been in pharmaceuticals for 40 years and is a walking encyclopedia of possible side effects, if she knows anything that might be of interest to SWIY.

[Rottenfruit]

Originally Posted by hh339

Itching chest, HIGH pulse, heart and chest hurt like a M-F. SWiM's right arm went numb also. Weird.

Swimmy been trough the numbness in his army many times, swimmy says its nothing to worry about, when you start to hallinuacte which happends way after the numb feeling in body parts(probily a dosage 1/3 higher) then swimmy talked about how he would not take anymore then and try to rest.

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Originally Posted by Rottenfruit

Swimmy been trough the numbness in his army many times, swimmy says its nothing to worry about, when you start to hallinuacte which happends way after the numb feeling in body parts(probily a dosage 1/3 higher) then swimmy talked about how he would not take anymore then and try to rest.

In his arm,feet,fingers,

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According to swimmy high bmp aint that much to worry about expect if it starts to become extremly painful and over 170bpm,not sure about itching chest it might be due to stomic acids

[Paracelsus]

The numb right arm could sound like something serious.

Although speedballing is not recommended, it's better to use benzos in such situations.

SWIM always has some diazepam on hand, although he never really needed it.

[hh339]

SWiM got his pills legally from his doctor yes, but he has stopped his Methylphenidate medication now so he no longer has any contact with her. He now selfmedicates with Amphetamine instead and it works fine.

[IntrepidTraveler]

Originally Posted by hh339

SWiM got his pills legally from his doctor yes, but he has stopped his Methylphenidate medication now so he no longer has any contact with her. He now selfmedicates with Amphetamine instead and it works fine.

Aye, SWIM's mom didn't know anything, either. Strange; I guess it just goes to show that drugs have unique reactions in every unique user.

[oneeno]

numbness is usually from lack of blood flow to an area...though it could be a nervous system thing...if it hasnt or doesnt go away or comes back again swim woudl say GO TO TEH DR..any recent car accidents or anythign else??
it doesnt sound lik SWIM is really over abusing based on wha swim states..its possible the dosage is just a tad too high?? average DR wont give or rather is not allowed to give as per the PDA over 60mgs of rit a day which is why swim thinks they came ou wth the time release..legallly allows higher doses to be given because it wont allow it all to be taken at once..based on swims specific dosage # 54 one would assume your taking concerta? the 108 sounds like a bad match for swim..
unless u were sitting on your hand or leaning on your arm for a period of time watching tv, numbsess is not a good sign. swim is not sure of how uppers like rit react and control the blood flow except normally speeding i tup (when you get headaches its becuase your bloodpressure is so high its throbbing the blood at such a fast pace it hurts = headaches) but swim wonders if too high of a dose could restrict blood flow or cause some kind of a clot?
be careful its not an unrelated prior issue like a clot that the rit was not pushing on...
though if your young and in good shape a clot is unlikely. i just keep mentioning clots because they can restrict blood flow..causing numbess

please let us know if its unrelated or if you go to the Dr..if its related to teh rit it be good to share..

[10001110101]

Originally Posted by hh339

SWIM experienced semi-severe heart complications today, caused by methylphenidate. SWIM took the best solution he could come to think of, 2 mg of alprazolam. He's sworn himself from benzo's but this time it was not an issue of getting high, even if he did. I would like to warn you all about this, though it seems fairly unusual to have this happen to you, anyway: Keep some benzo's at hand just in case, gotta sleep now, later. Love / hh

dude whatever. 2mg alprazolam? 0.5 mg would have been ample to counteract any heart issues.

0.25mg is what they commonly give out for angina.

[HorseBucket]

Do opiates slow the heartbeat? A natural, cheap and easy to get alternative to benzos is valerian root extract capsules. Swim got a bottle to help him sleep and although they don't always knock him out they definitely slow his heartbeat down when his heart starts racing on Ritalin. Swims only experienced rapid heartbeat when he did doses of 150mg+ though. Never on low doses. It just came to swims attention that he carelessly eats these things like they were sugar pills but has never looked up the OD threshold of this drug. Swims highest dose so far is 200mg. Is that a high dose or just normal?

One irritating side effect swim gets with Ritalin is trouble breathing especially when the effects start to wear off and he's trying to go to sleep. It doesn't sound bad but its actually pretty frustrating. Not life threatening or anything its just a real annoying feeling that no matter how big a breath you take its never satisfying. Swims preferred method of intake is insufflation so his theory is that when powder builds up in his trachea and primary bronchi they obstruct the oxygen intake of that area of the lungs because thats were he feels this awkward unsatisfying feeling. This problem causes swim to take control of his breathing process rather than letting the subconscious do it and this is a tiring and frustrating process. Swim has had this problem many times even when he doesn't take Ritalin though so maybe its something else.