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Old 01-04-2007, 07:43
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HOW TO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

SWIM has a script of a bunch of 5mg oxycodone HCL pills. These are the fast acting, so they are not the powerful oxycontin extended release pills. They also do not have any aspirin or acetaminophen added. Just plain oxycodone with nothing added. They are a small circular dark orange pill, with 625 on one side and ETH on the other side. The orange coloring is all the way through meaning there is no surface that would normally need to be scratched off as in oxycontin pills.
SWIM wants to know if these can be crushed and injected. There shouldn’t be any wax in them (like in the oxycontin, which causes the oxycontin to be a slow release) so SWIM may not have to heat up in a spoon like SWIM has to do with oxycontin. Please, SWIM have spent two days searching the internet and have spent hours looking on this site, so please no one tell me that this question has already been asked a thousand times. If you want to tell me that this question has already been asked then SWIM challenges you to post a link to a site that describes how to inject fast acting oxycodone pills, as may quickly find there will be a thousand pages that talk about injecting long acting oxycontin but none (that I can find) about instant release oxycodone. Thank you in advance!
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:47
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

crush, add water,suck thru needle with sterile cotton filter,clen hands/injection site shoot away.is that what you were asking or do you not know how to shoot up?
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Old 10-05-2007, 21:18
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

I had the same question, but I thought straight oxycodone was not water soluble.
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Old 10-05-2007, 21:21
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

i dont see why it woudlent be water souluble,swims iv'd oxys many times.and what do you mean by straight?
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Old 11-05-2007, 14:06
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

"straight" means without acetominophen or ibuprophen. Obviously there are probably fillers and binders, but no other medication added.
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

SWIM has IV'ed those same pills many times before. Just do as fnord says. There is no need to heat them like OC's. The only thing that sucks is that they are only 5 mg so if SWIY is used to doing 80 mg OC's SWIY would have to do like 16. Which brings up the issue of a big barrell rig, yada yada yada.
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

Got it. Thanks, I'll let SWIM know.
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

oxys are not water soluble, which means you will need a fat needle and no filter which is very dangerous, as it says on the leaflet we get here in the uk.
you will end up clogging a vein and getting a clot which could kill you.
They are up to 87% bioabailable which means 87% will get into you bloodstream through ingesting them, compared to 30% for morphine.
leave the needle and spoon alone m8 if you know whats good for you.
which you obviously do not!

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Good post, top advice.
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Old 19-02-2008, 15:10
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

The oxycodone HCl is water soluble but not when it is in its binder.
The binder itself is inert and is the same binder that they use for OxyNorm which are also 5mg IR. They way to get past this is with an acid to release the Oxycodone from the binder. Citric acid used in the same way as UK brown Heroin should do the trick.

Crush pill
Add water as per line dosage
Add citric
Heat gently from underneath. (this is the catalyst that releases the Oxy from the binder)
Filter through a pill filter or balled cotton into syringe as one would with H.
Viola, injectable Oxycodone release from its binder.

SWIM does this all the time with OxyNorm IR. Until the Oxycodone HCl is released from the binder it will not be absorbed into water and as stated above this is achieved with an suitable acid for injection such as citric.

Hope this has helped

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extremely precise info spot on.
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Old 11-03-2008, 18:53
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

Swim does this alot but he doesnt heat it He just adds water and filter is with a cigerate filter

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Old 13-10-2008, 02:26
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

Well after nearly two years of non stop injecting oxycontin and oxycodone, swim leaves for north Cali this week to go through detox then rehab. right now, swim is injecting 90*80mg=7200mg oxycontin in 3or4 days (starting each month as soon as the script is filed) and then about 150*30mg=4500mg of the IR oxycodone in about a week after teh OC is gone (the other 20 days of the month is total hell). wish him luck, he can’t wait to get off this shit, he was lucky not to ever get busted or in any kind of trouble, mainly because it was a totally private habit done in secrecy at home and college, no one ever knew

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Old 13-10-2008, 02:33
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

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Well after nearly two years of non stop injecting oxycontin and oxycodone, swim leaves for north Cali this week to go through detox then rehab. right now, swim is injecting 90*80mg=7200mg oxycontin in 3or4 days (starting each month as soon as the script is filed) and then about 150*30mg=4500mg of the IR oxycodone in about a week after teh OC is gone (the other 20 days of the month is total hell).


damn thats a shitload to be IV'ing especially in that short amount of time each month....wish you the best of luck in getting clean and recovery

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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

Swim has some 15mg oxycodone hcl. He was wondering the same thing. Swim take 300 mg of mscontin orally each day, so IV 15mg oxycodone hcl should be safe. Anyone?
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Old 01-07-2009, 15:56
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

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The oxycodone HCl is water soluble but not when it is in its binder.
The binder itself is inert and is the same binder that they use for OxyNorm which are also 5mg IR. They way to get past this is with an acid to release the Oxycodone from the binder. Citric acid used in the same way as UK brown Heroin should do the trick.

Crush pill
Add water as per line dosage
Add citric
Heat gently from underneath. (this is the catalyst that releases the Oxy from the binder)
Filter through a pill filter or balled cotton into syringe as one would with H.
Viola, injectable Oxycodone release from its binder.

SWIM does this all the time with OxyNorm IR. Until the Oxycodone HCl is released from the binder it will not be absorbed into water and as stated above this is achieved with an suitable acid for injection such as citric.

Hope this has helped
Ok. this sounds very plausible as AFOAF booted a whole box of 20 x 20mg oxynorm tonight with barely a result compared to oxycontin of same dose. AFOAF will try some citric and heat on the leftovers of the 20 tabs and report any difference. AFOAF will be happy if it works but also a little upset after throwing the dregs away all the other times after using just water and hardly a result.

It was such a poor result compared to the oxycontin of the same dose that I searched google and found this site with somebody obviously realising this too.

Thanks if it works

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Swim has some 15mg oxycodone hcl. He was wondering the same thing. Swim take 300 mg of mscontin orally each day, so IV 15mg oxycodone hcl should be safe. Anyone?
Do you mean 30mg ms or 300mg? if its 300mg I doubt very much you would even feel 15mg of oxycodone. Trial and error is your best way but , yes, you should be very safe starting at that dose.

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Ok. this sounds very plausible as AFOAF booted a whole box of 20 x 20mg oxynorm tonight with barely a result compared to oxycontin of same dose. AFOAF will try some citric and heat on the leftovers of the 20 tabs and report any difference. AFOAF will be happy if it works but also a little upset after throwing the dregs away all the other times after using just water and hardly a result.

It was such a poor result compared to the oxycontin of the same dose that swim searched google and found this site with somebody obviously realising this too.

Thanks if it works

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Does swim mean 30mg ms or 300mg? if its 300mg swim doubt very much swim would even feel 15mg of oxycodone. Trial and error is swims best way but , yes, swim should be very safe starting at that dose.
by the way, what does swim stand for?

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Ok. this sounds very plausible as AFOAF booted a whole box of 20 x 20mg oxynorm tonight with barely a result compared to oxycontin of same dose. AFOAF will try some citric and heat on the leftovers of the 20 tabs and report any difference. AFOAF will be happy if it works but also a little upset after throwing the dregs away all the other times after using just water and hardly a result.

It was such a poor result compared to the oxycontin of the same dose that I searched google and found this site with somebody obviously realising this too.

Thanks if it works

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Do you mean 30mg ms or 300mg? if its 300mg I doubt very much you would even feel 15mg of oxycodone. Trial and error is your best way but , yes, you should be very safe starting at that dose.

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by the way, what does swim stand for?
sorry, swim really messed this post up, swim tried to edit but could not. there was a slip of the keyboard a couple of times where it meant to refer to swim, swim was off with the fairies and its swims first post, sorry.

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swim tried the acid with heat on the leftovers of 20 x 20mg oxynorm and can report that swim wont waste his time next time and tell the doctor oxycontin only thanks.

Theres something going on with oxynorm but heat and acid is not the answer. for some reason they are so much weaker than oxycontin same dose tabs for injecting.

swims advice, dont bother with heat and acid when using oxynorm because in swims opinion it makes no difference at all to plain water. its hydrochloride anyway so why wouldnt it be fully dissolved in plain water anyway? swim is pissed off with result and going to throw the leftover binder shit from 20 tabs as there is quite obviously nothing in it that plain water has left behind. swim is never going to settle for oxynorm instead of oxycontin again.

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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

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oxys are not water soluble, which means you will need a fat needle and no filter which is very dangerous, as it says on the leaflet we get here in the uk.
you will end up clogging a vein and getting a clot which could kill you.

Just for clarification:

The UK pamphlet for oxycodone actually discusses IV use?
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Old 03-07-2009, 22:58
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

I didn't think they had oxycodone in the uk...
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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

My friend wanted me to ask this question...
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I have ten 10mg oral capsuals of oxycodone hydrochloride (oxynorm-quick release), and I want to IV them.
Inside the capsuals is powder, but it hardly dissolves in water regardless of heat being applied.
Has anyone seen this style of oxycodone in a capsual with powder? (Immediate release).
I have seen others saying use citric acid to release oxycodone from the binder...didn't work for me either way.
Would be a great help if someone with experience of this particular situation shared their knowlege-
thanks,Samm.

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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

oxys are not water soluble, which means you will need a fat needle and no filter which is very dangerous, as it says on the leaflet we get here in the uk.

SWIM IV's instant release oxy's frequently, they are soluble in warm water and SWIM doesn't know why SWIY would think you can't use a filter....one can suck the {almost} clear sloution through a cotton filter {NOT a cigarette filter} and you are ready to go. Using a wheel filter removes not only any remaining binders/fillers, it also removes virus'and bacteria, making your shot almost as safe as a pharmaceutical grade sloution. SWIM has used this method succesfully and without any problems {eg. abcesses, infection, clots} for 19 months. Just remember that one cannot be sterile enough. Make sure all equipment and hands are totally clean. Use alcohol swabs to sterilise surfaces and mixing utensils.

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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

Just a quick question, does all the above infomation about IV use apply to the oxycodone (OxyNorm 20mg) capsules, as opposed to the tablets? There was a thread somewhere where the OP was asking this very question, but swim can't remember where it was... hopefully the OP will see this one. Anyway, swim presumes it'd be the same, but clarification would be vicariously appreciated. Also, are these smokable in the same way that oxycontin tablets are?

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I didn't think they had oxycodone in the uk...
Yup, certainly do...just not as widely (mis)prescribed, and therefore not as widely abused. They tend to only prescribe it to people who really need it. As a last resort, when everything else doesn't work. Cancer patients etc.

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Just for clarification:

The UK pamphlet for oxycodone actually discusses IV use?
Yep, certainly does:

OxyNorm 5, 10, 20 mg capsules

Oxycodone Hydrochloride

How do I take my capsules?
The label on your medicine will tell you how many capsules to take and how often. If you are not sure, ask your doctor or pharmacist. Do not take more capsules than the label tells you to.

Swallow your capsules whole with water. Do not chew or crush them.
Children and adolescents under 18 years old should not take the capsules.
Do not stop taking your capsules without first speaking to your doctor.
You must only take OxyNorm capsules by mouth. The capsule contents should never be injected as this may lead to serious side effects, which may be fatal.

For the full patient information leaflet, go here: http://emc.medicines.org.uk/medicine...sectionPATIENT

So be careful guys!

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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

SWIM simply drops pill into spoon, uses either a 3ml barrel or 1ml barrel -
SWIM alternates between 150ml of water & 300ml... then SWIM boils it and pushes the end of the fit onto the pill witch now becomes a putty-like substance, SWIM continues squashing the pill , SWIM comes up with a clear solution, & believes this is superior to crushing method

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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

Oxycodone HCL is readily water soluable...here is snippet from Prescriber Info with link to the document below:
ROXICODONE
(Oxycodone Hydrochloride Tablets USP)
[Xanodyne Pharmaceuticals, Inc.] 10004436/01 CII
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DESCRIPTION
ROXICODONE® (oxycodone hydrochloride tablets USP) is an opioid analgesic.
Each tablet for oral administration contains 15 mg or 30 mg of oxycodone hydrochloride USP.
Oxycodone hydrochloride is a white, odorless crystalline powder derived from the opium alkaloid, thebaine. Oxycodone hydrochloride dissolves in water (1 g in 6 to 7 mL) and is considered slightly soluble in alcohol (octanol water partition coefficient is 0.7).

SWIM isn't recommending injecting by any means...still lots of other crap, fillers, binders etc..some are bound to end up in the bloodstream and long term damage could result. But oxycodone IS water soluable..no heat required...heating only increases risk of getting more of the junk into solution...so IV'rs beware!

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Re: HOWTO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

SWIM has been shooting oxys for close to four years now. She tried all the methods (heating etc) before being properly educated in a State funded medically based harm-min course (SWIM's not in the States!).
Firstly strip off the outer coating (do not use SWIy's saliva (as SWIM has heard others advise ) etc unless SWIy is willing to contract an infection which could lead to the need to have the valves in SWIy's heart replaced) using alcohol swabs. The main reason for this is not to remove the wax (as the wax is all through the pill) but the colouring-it'd be a nice way to give SWIM a tattoo...not! Hence, the fact that the die might be all the way through the tablets (depending on where SWIy is) makes no difference, as the wax is all through the slow/controlled release pills regardless of the colour under the coating (it just means SWIy might get that tattoo!).
Let the tabs dry.
SWIM was told 3cc/ml per tab (that would also depend on the strength) but as SWIM has an elephant like tolerance she requires 4-5 80mg tabs at once (which is way to much liquid) so she uses a 5ml barrel (filled to the max (6mls)).
When the tabs are dry SWIM has found that crushing a tablet between two identical soup spoons (this requires practice-be careful SWIy doesn't want their tabs flying off the table!) is the best way to get a fine powder (a pill crusher wont do the job properly either and may also explode!).
The active ingredient in Oxys is water soluble (that's what SWIM's pharmacist and the State funded course told her), so place SWIy's 5/6mls (or whatever) of water in a small (clean) cup (SWIM uses an egg pouching cup).
Then place SWIy's crushed pills into the water.
SWIM then uses the plunger from a 1ml syringe to stir the mixture (as the plunger is sterile-cleanliness is paramount).
Let the mixture soak for approx. 10 min (no less).
Do not heat. As previously stated the active ingredient is water soluble and there is no need to cook the mixture, SWIy'll only make a mucky mess!
Then place a tightly rolled cotton filter (don't forget to swab SWIy's fingers before rolling filters) the size of a pea and draw the liquid up with the barrel (no nib). The mixture should be absolutely clear to the eye, if it's not and the mixture is cloudy etc, it is likely the filter SWIy used wasn't rolled tightly enough and SWIy will have to refilter. If the mixture if fairly clear use a smaller filter and a 25 gauge nib.
If it were a perfect world, SWIM would then use a wheel filter (the largest possible) to filter any nasties that cant be seen.
Eat the horrid chalk that is left at the bottom of the cup if SWIy is worried they might miss something, dont save it unless SWIy's up for open heart surgery!
Add a nib (27 gauge is best-the smaller the needle the less vein damage), aim and shoot.
SWIM also shoots her 20mg Oxynorm (IR) (usually just to top up her 80's mixture), and thinks that any differences SWIY's have experienced between the contin and norm are because a norm hit requires more tablets and therefore more water. SWIM wonders if SWIY hasn't added enough water. This method definitely works with norms aswell. SWIM has full length cigarette burns on her carpet from her ex taking the norms this way. He burnt SWIM's doona (and nearly SWIM's lounge-room!), so it certainly worked for him.
*Don't forget to let the tablets soak. This is crucial.
Obviously don't be dumb, one of these tabs could kill a large adult male, and keep them locked away (for everyone's safety).
SWIM hopes this has been helpful.

Chemgirl added 15 Minutes and 32 Seconds later...

Chemgirl realises this conversation is about fast acting oxys and not Oxycontin. However, whether pill or tablet, controlled release or fast acting, this method has been tried on all, and passed the test above all other methods.

Post Quality Evaluations:
Quality post. Always good to emphasise harm-reduction and cleanliness, and to remind of dangers, both of which are contained within. (The danger in this case... fire)
It's a very helpful post - a lot of essential informations straight from an experienced researcher !
Quality TEK, worked perfectly for this first timer. Thank you

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Re: HOW TO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

what about snorting 30 mg oxycodone hcl? swim has noticed, snorting say, 1 a day causes no side effects but has little effect on SWIMS' system. swim would say that SWIY that can snort a 40-60mgs oxycontin with desired effect would like these, but swim has been doing 3-4 a day and getting desired effect at first but after a few days insomnia AND lung irritation. it has gone away now and swim wont do that many again but does swiy think doing the 1 a day to potentiate swims other opiates and/ or take away the crawlys for abit in a pinch will cause harm? dont say take them orally because that will be my obvious next step if swiy has a reason not to snort them.

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sorry to post on iv thread found more approriate thread after looking longer. but swim personally is scared to iv something causing swim health concerns from snorting.just a thought.

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Re: HOW TO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

SWIM, a friend, has same prescriptions. But it is powder form already, in a capsul. How do we know what is in the pills. Why would one be pill form another be powder. Wouldn't it being pill form mean something else has to be in it? The bottles read the same but they don't look the same.It leaves me a bit more confused. The names on the bottles are all so similar to begin with. SWIMs concerned this may sound ignorant but being SWIM wants to try the same method, the need to ask someone is evident. Miss SWIM is scared because of the diferences. Is there any need for my friend to worry.
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Re: HOW TO: Inject plain oxycodone, fast acting type (not oxycontin & not percocet)

SWIM is prescribed both Oxynorms (20mg capsule IR) and Oxycontin (80mgs CR). SWIM's CWE method will work for both. They are the same drug-it's just that the capsules are immediate release and the tablets aren't. The only diiference with using CWE with the capsules is that you obviously don't have to crush them.

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Well after nearly two years of non stop injecting oxycontin and oxycodone, swim leaves for north Cali this week to go through detox then rehab. right now, swim is injecting 90*80mg=7200mg oxycontin in 3or4 days (starting each month as soon as the script is filed) and then about 150*30mg=4500mg of the IR oxycodone in about a week after teh OC is gone (the other 20 days of the month is total hell). wish me luck, I can’t wait to get off this shit, I was lucky not to ever get busted or in any kind of trouble, mainly because it was a totally private habit done in secrecy at home and college, no one ever knew
Goodluck, SWIM empathises with SWIY. SWIM is curious, how are they going to detox SWIY off such large amounts? What does/did SWIY do when they ran out of meds, how did they cope?
Best wishes

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i do this alot but i dont heat it i just add water and filter is with a cigerate filter
Get some sterile medical grade cotton, it's the safest, most effective intial filter there is. Cigarette filters are full of nasties. If SWIY can, SWIM recommends using a wheel filter after the initial cotton filter. Don't forget to swab under SWIY's fingers before rolling filters etc. It might just save someone from requiring heart valve replacement (open heart surgery).

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