Health - Memory Problems With Clonazepam

[fnord]

just a litttle hint to benzo heads nex time your drinking on clonipine(might wrk for other benzos not quite sure) take a cuople nodoz or some other caffine pill and itll help you remember all the stupid shit you did the day before






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[QGdoxl]

Hey thanks I'll have to try that next time I get some

[fnord]

yess please do im out of my downer stage kinjda going the other way but if u try it on other benzos plese share your expierance so others can learn too.

[QGdoxl]

great idea i'll try that

[fnord]

thanx for telling me that twice...it just clogs up the search engine

[MindMachine]

i think i'll try that

[Ho0k3d0nChRoNiC]

Ok, so basically here is what SWIM had planned for the weekend. This happened on a friday night. There was a school dance on Saturday night (which i dont end up making. YOu will know why at the end the of the report)

But friday night, SWIM had aquired Four 1mg Clonazepam pills, and decided he would take them after his mom went to bed and chill in his room. SWIM has a very comfy and warm waterbed with warm and fuzzy bean bag pillows. I have read that blankets and beds and suck feel ALOT better on Clonazepam.

So after my mom went to bed (10:30) i dissolved TWO of the 1mg pills under my tongue (took longer than i thought to dissolve so i ended up chewing them) the other two i insufflated. It didnt burn at all, it felt kinda cold when inhaling through your nostrils. Overall is was a very GOOD burning sensation. So in all i took 4mg.

After about 20 minutes i became light headed, and felt very warm and fuzzy (the blankets were awesome) but then i became bored because it stayed liek that for an hour and 20 mintues, so i fell asleep.

When i woke up, i thought i had just had like a 2 hour nap or whatever.
So i got up and went on aim, stumbled to my computer, had slurred speach, you know. I go on AIM and talked to some friends and some of them asked "Hey man why werent you at the dance tonight" and SWIM replied "dude..umm..the dance is tomorow night" and the friend was liike "dude wtf no it wasnt, i just got back from it. It was badass"

So this is when things started fucking with my head. I ended up arguing and yelling at my friends on the phone for 30 minutes trying to convince them that it was still friday night and that they were playing some sick joke on me or something. I ended calling my mom and getting her to assure me that today was Saturday. She ended asking "Honey, are you on anything?", i ended up just playing it off saying i had a wierd dream since this was around 1130 p.m. Even though my head was still really fucked up.

I looked at every clock, radio, calendar in the house, and they all said it was saturday.

So i ended up concluding that i passed out for 19 hours sstraight and then waking up and thinkgin EVERYTHING that happend the day before happend today. (Saturday)

Contrdicting my theory i was talking to my friend and he said that he had picked me up and we had gone to the mall for about 2 hours and then to IHOP, i dont remember any of this. He remembers him telling me my pupils were kinda dilated, but he didnt suspecct anything major.

Now i remember taking the pills and everything friday night but nothing after that until i woke up in my bed 19 hours later. Complete black hole in my life.

I find this quite interesting, and will be experimenting with clonazepam again since i have more. I was also wondering if i should be worried about this.?

Has this or anything like this happend to anyone else. Share your experiences with this drug if you want to also.

Thanks.

(SOrry for the long read..)

[Ho0k3d0nChRoNiC]

Done: By request

[StigmataLectron]

Wow, I find that very interesting. Did your friend mention anything about SWIY acting abnormal, like not quite you?

[StigmataLectron]

+ I mean aside from your pupils .

[Ho0k3d0nChRoNiC]

No not really, he said that SWIH acted completely normanl...except he ordered practically the whole menu haha SWIH laughed when he told me that..

but he also said SWIH was kinda stumbling around alil bit. LIke if he had had a few drinks. but thats it. All SWIH remembers is what they tell me...

Basically SWIH had a 2 day weekend..because friday and saturday merged together... lol

[Abrad]

You just took a too large a dose and blacked out. Clonazepam has a half-life of up to 50 hours and 4mg is a large dose for a non-tolerant person. Clonazepam also seems to cause strange behavior that the other benzos don't. Be more careful with doseage in future you could have done something very stupid. I know people who have gotten very aggressive (completely out of character for them) on this drug.

[Ho0k3d0nChRoNiC]

yea. SWIH wasnt sure on what to take or what dosage, he had read every report on this forum and at erowid, and the only ones i could find with the doses were .5mgs,1mgs,1.5mgs, and 6

and the one with 6 mgs seemed more of what he wanted to experience so he just took 4..next time he will only take like 1.5

[Fantasian]

sounds strange the only blackout/memoery loss thing i've ever experienced was with rohipnol, and once when i had an endosopy and the doc gave me something.

be more careful with it in future let me know if u find any more similar results it sounds interesting

[Ho0k3d0nChRoNiC]

His mom has a script..so he got 10 more 1 mgs lol

He'll be experimenting withit over these 5 week nights,, his only doubt is that it will last over until school the next mornning :? that would be bad...its hard for him to keep his cool while high in school especially since he's a good student and the teachers keep their eyes on him.. but yea...the next time he'll just take 1.5

the BEST thing he remembers from this experience before blacking out...is the EXTREMELY WONDERFULL sensation in his nostrils after insufflating it lol..and the warm fuzziness..lol

[Fantasian]

lol, downers arn't my thing really, Swim only uses diazepam(valium for you americans) for relieving anxeity attacks or rough feelings on other drugs, such as calming SWIM on shrooms or help on the comedown of E

[Ho0k3d0nChRoNiC]

yea yea i understand what you mean..

i just dont have any access to any mush or e right now...so im sticking to pharms..just for right now..


you know...youll do anything to be highhh

[Fantasian]

hehe, SWIM loves having access to opiates, there SWIM's favourite pharms, combine them with some benzo's and a nice warm night in

[Ho0k3d0nChRoNiC]

oh yea...oh yea.. He COMPLETELY knows what you mean haha

[Jatelka]

Have you seen this post Hooked:

Clonazepam is rapidly and completely absorbed after oral administration. Peak plasma concentrations occur by 4 hours. Half life is between 18 and 50 hours (compared to up to 200 for diazepam). Therapeutically clonazepam is given as a twice daily dose (and up to 4 times daily) at up to 1mg.

What SWIM is saying is that (theoretically) SWIH should probably NOT still be feeling a (therapeutic) dose at plus 12 hours. But then 5mg is not a therapeutic dose (it is 5 X therapeutic) so you should expect some hangover!

(from Clonazepam Q post)

[Ho0k3d0nChRoNiC]

Yes SWIM realizes he should have stayed awake but SWIM was just so damn tired, now SWIM is just mad that be basically wasted 4 mgs of Clon.



on the flipside SWIM aquired abunch of ambien for his sleep aid since he is a severe insomniac which sucks /

[Abrad]

Ambien are great for sleep but much too weird to use recreationally. When SWIM takes ambien (Stilnoct over here). He has to be sure to go straight to bed before he becomes delusional and does stupid things, and this is at the recommended dose.

[Jatelka]

SWIM's been doing some thinking with regards to SWIH's lost 19 hours:

Benzodiazepines (especially in high dose) and particularly Clonazepam cause Anterograde Amnesia. That is they interfere with the formation of new memories (which makes sense really since they are used for sedation for medical procedures!) so SWIH's brain didn't register any of the events of his experience.

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Very informative posting

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by jatelka

Benzodiazepines (especially in high dose) and particularly Clonazepam cause Anterograde Amnesia. That is they interfere with the formation of new memories (which makes sense really since they are used for sedation for medical procedures!) so SWIH's brain didn't register any of the events of his experience.

Just interested does that apply to Diazepam?

[Jatelka]

Originally Posted by Fantasian

Just interested does that apply to Diazepam?

In answer to your question Fantasian: Anterograde amnesia is a function of all benzodiazepines.

Benzodiazepine actions are mediated by specific GABA receptor subtypes. Diazepam mediated amnesia has been specifically localised to the GABA 1 receptor. Zolpidem also preferentially binds to GABA 1 receptors (which SWIM guesses could open up a whole new thread). The anxiolytic and myorelaxant properties of benzos have been localised to GABA 2, GABA 3, and (possibly) GABA 5 receptors.

This has implications for future drug design: For example, agonists acting on 2, 3, and/or 5 but not on 1 receptors are expected to be nonsedative and nonamnesic anxiolytics.

To date the dependence/tolerance issue has not been localised to a specific GABA receptor subtype.