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Old 29-03-2007, 11:36
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Sleep-Deprived Hallucinations Experiences

I'm interested in this trips one gets after a long (meth)amphetamine binge. Apparently some people actually do this binges to reach this point which they seem to enjoy and erowid has plenty of reports about it.

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Re: Sleep-Deprived Hallucinations Experiences

shadow people,there everywhere after the first week or so....one of them poked my friend in boston another grabed swims bum,at least he hopes it was a shadow person...damn pirverts
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Re: Sleep-Deprived Hallucinations Experiences

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shadow people,there everywhere after the first week or so....one of them poked my friend in boston another grabed swims bum,at least he hopes it was a shadow person...damn pirverts
One week up? Was SWIyou even able of talking?
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Re: Sleep-Deprived Hallucinations Experiences

SWIM has had this happen, but it's difficult to be sure whether the hallucinations were from sleep deprivation, or dopamine overactivity. Most likely the former, as they weren't all that serious and he never got highly paranoid as would be expected if dopamine were the main culprit.

Seems to start kicking in for SWIM after three nights straight with no sleep, and the fourth gets bad enough he can't continue. 96 hours is the outer limit of what he can tolerate anymore re: stimulant binges, although he could and did go longer when he was in his 20's.

As far as specific hallucinations -- mostly sonic, and continuous. Like being in a large cafeteria with background hum of conversation, punctuated by "blip" and "bleep"-like noises. Visually, seeing stuff out of the corner of his eyes mostly... very rarely does he have clear, frontal visual hallucinations from sleep deprivation.
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Re: Sleep-Deprived Hallucinations Experiences

Do people actually enjoy the extreme ends of meth binges? SWIM has never tried meth but from reading descriptions doesn't like the sound of the end part of a meth binge.
<-Thats definately the most suited icon for such a description Haha

Suppression of REM sleep is really interesting.

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Recent studies show sleep deprivation has some potential in the treatment of depression. About 60% of patients, when sleep-deprived, show immediate recovery, with most relapsing the following night. The incidence of relapse can be decreased by combining sleep deprivation with medication [26]. Incidentally, many tricyclic antidepressants happen to suppress REM sleep, providing additional evidence for a link between mood and sleep [27]
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Re: Sleep-Deprived Hallucinations Experiences

That sounds like a terrible idea. SWIM usually crashes when the paranoia starts to get to him after only two days. The hallucinations aren't worth the paranoia or the complete insanity that comes before it. Besides, hallucinations you get meth aren't just from sleep deprivation either. Auditory hallucinations can be the product of delusions and paranoia combined with other factors such as malnutrition, extreme CNS stimulation (amp. psychosis), fear of "getting caught" (even if SWIY isn't doing anything he shouldnt at the moment), or as SWIY said - sleep deprivation. It's possible for a person to hallucinate on the 2 or 3 day of a binge if the circumstances are right - And trust SWIM, it is NOT fun to be sleep deprived and delusive on meth.


SWIM believes it's better just to do speed for the stimulation than to use it for hallucinations - not just because you can develop schizophrenic symptoms and act like scarface when you begin to come down, but also because its a waste of amphetamine, and that's like burning 20 dollar bills - you just dont do it.
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Re: Sleep-Deprived Hallucinations Experiences

SWIM has never set out to hallucinate on drugs purposely, but twice after three day long coke binges she started to see the shadow-men. SWIM hasn't really liked trippy stuff ever since a bad acid experience but she found this stuff amazing and wanted to see more (every time she looked up shadow people would duck behind the furniture). I guess SWIM felt more comfortable with cocaine hallucinations than LSD ones. SWIM has never hallucinated after smoking crack though and shes been on some hefty binges with that stuff.
Also, after taking opiates and staying up all night SWIM quite often gets auditory hallucinations that are so real and freaky.
Different hallucinatory experiences are just an interesting side effect of some substances I suppose. Enjoy!
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Re: Sleep-Deprived Hallucinations Experiences

i dont think anyone should/does take meth and stay up for the hallucinations,for swim 1 week was his minium binge after that he knows he was a wake alot longer but time runs together after a whiile.just one more reason he stoped cooking meth,going on abinge and relizeing your all out after 2 weeks and decideing to cook is not a safe idea,swim has small little dots all over his arms/hands from not wearing gloves and being so sleep deprived/shaking/out of it while trying to cook "ill just make just one more batch,thewn when thats gone ill sleep" kinda thing..well anyways its not something you should do for the trip its not a trip its delusions. if youve never seen a methhead freak out your lucky!!
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