Combinations - LSD & Ketamine

[crystalx]

Now that I actually remember, the first time SWIM did L (like 11am) he had just done all this K. He never wanted to do L but the K gives him this carefree attitude so he was like fuck it. Just don't do too much of it; L should be fully enjoyed and not masked by a super fucked-up lethargic feeling.

[Chacer]

SWIM like this combo very much in sub-Khole doses...

[ljfe]

SWIM's first time trying Ketamine was 3 lines about 30 minutes into 2 tabs. It was a great open feeling, he did it in a treehouse in the woods. When the acid started taking effect, SWIM felt mad slowmotion, a lot more intense than L alone. They decided to take a drive to a GameStop. This is where thinks got nasty. SWIM didn't have any liquid in the car, and he accidentally tried eating a pretzal. After that, he could taste Ketamine coming up his throat and felt sickly hot, nauseous, and in the slowmotion K-Hole. He couldn't hold the K (which he probably accidentally swallowed) in his stomache and puked a LOT out of the window. Then they went through a carwash and bought a game. He did a bump of pure K about an hour later and felt a great synergy. I think it was the motionsickness that got to him.

[Uncle Ramrod]

LSD & K? Definite fun to be had as long as SWIY drops the acid first and then takes it slow & easy with the K. SWIM often finds the best way to do this is go for little lines or just dip a corner of a card and snork little bits at a time. Doing this can also be very social in a group situ.

This works out well as (SWIM finds) the K can actually mellow the trip out considerably and 'soften the corners' improving mental feng-shui in general. And with little-and-often you can control exactly how far down the rabbit hole you go with the K.

[Jatelka]

Can your meercat tell us more Chacer?

What does she like about the combination? How does it feel compared to LSD alone? Why sub K-hole doses?

[Chacer]

She likes the combination because, the lsd takes you high and the ketamine mellow things out in a very alien way. It just gets very alien and wierd/funny, but without being too frightening. She likes sub khole doses best because, one time she tried a khole dose, and thing got soooooooo wierd, that it ended up ruining her lsd trip when she came back from the hole. She didnt take lsd or ketamine for 5 months after that. Shes fine now tho

She actually tried to write a trip report, but couldnt put words on the thing that happened to her... It felt a little like dying, she said... But now dying in the good dmt way... It was like dying in wrong way (dont know how else i can explain it )

[Chacer]

Ok she decided to give the lsd+khole combo one more go...
This time she IMed the k (125mg).
The hole was the almost the same, but with a little twist.
She didnt like it. It felt wrong. She had to take a valium to kill the lsd trip after the hole (she hates killing trips).
She came thrue fine this time, properbly because of the valium.
But she will not try to khole on lsd again.

Has anyone had simular results from lsd+khole? Or is it just SWIM?

[VitaminK22]

Swim finally tried this on new years eve.
Swim got to his friends house and smoke a few spliffs then sniffed about 400mg of ket gradually until he K-holed, he then waited a little while for the effects to wear off so he was just on a small ket comedown. Swim then dropped 2 tabs of LSD and waited to reach his peak about 2 hours later, He then sniffed about another 300mg in 2 fat lines and had the best experience of his life. The ket gave him a floating feeling and the acid gave him intense visuals, the room was changing colours constently, if he focused on 1 thing it would just twist up and deform until he focused on somethin else. Swim looked into a mirror and saw like 5 images of himself, 1 of them was his normal colour and the rest were different colours. The wierdest thing was wen he was at the very peak of his acid & ket trip, he could see a very coloured outline of Paul McCartney wen he was young and it was like he was controlling swims trips with the music he was playing, Swim was listening to the beatles at the time. About 4 hours after taking the LSD swim seemed to stop tripping but some of the visuals were still there so swim smoked another spliff which seemed to bring the effects of the LSD back, at this stage swim couldnt concerntrate on anything, his head was completly scrambled which for some reason was very enjoyable too.
Swim thought that there wasnt enough ketamine during the LSD because after the ket worn off, swim felt like his experience was over, until he smoked another spliff and it came back

Overall it turned out to be a very good night and the best new years party swim has ever been to. Swim is definatly gonna do this again but will either have more acid or more ket. Swim would like to stay in the ket world for the whole duration of the LSD next time

[podge]

LSD should be peaking around 3 or 4 hours after ingestion and the trip should fade away after about 12 hours. Sounds like swiy might have taken one of the shorter acting RCs.

[sweetsweetmary]

Just a heads up Kittyflip is Ket and E. Also Swim has ingrediantiants to do the LSD and Ket Flip. But is unsure if this is worth the time. SWIM can"t distinguish whether this is worthwhile. A detailed story would be desired by swim.

\Never mind swim has made a concscious decision against this, Ketamine makes SWIM sick to come down.

[VitaminK22]

Originally Posted by podge

LSD should be peaking around 3 or 4 hours after ingestion and the trip should fade away after about 12 hours. Sounds like swiy might have taken one of the shorter acting RCs.

Swim has taken LSD every weekend for about 3 months now and has only had 1 experience where the peak was at like 3 hours after ingestion and that was his first experience. Now the peak seams to hit at about 2 hours after but lasts like 2 hours. From the moment he fully comes up to the moment he falls asleep is about 8 hours, the acid feeling would probly last longer but he dont see the point in stayin awake until its fully over, swim gets bored like 5 hours after the peak cos he usually runs outta weed. Swim says it was like he stopped trippin after about 4 hours because the ket made the trip so intense that when he come down off the ket it was just like the normal acid trip after the peak and swim wanted to be back in the acid K-hole.
Another thing is swims perception of time is severely challenged when on ket or acid, and to make things worse, swim looked at his watch and couldnt even work out wot the time was, he had to count the hands like a little kid and then he even lost count.

[podge]

Originally Posted by VitaminK22

Swim has taken LSD every weekend for about 3 months now and has only had 1 experience where the peak was at like 3 hours after ingestion and that was his first experience. Now the peak seams to hit at about 2 hours after but lasts like 2 hours.

The time line doesnt sound like LSD, unless swiy has used a testing kit on them there no way to be sure. Just cause they are called acid by whoever sells them and they make ya trip doesnt mean its LSD. Either way - trips of any sort every week for 3 months is too often. It usually takes longer than a week to integrate an experience and its better off not to rush it.

[PingoTango]

SWIM did this for the first time completely unintentionally. He was at a rave about 6 months ago and found a guy selling liquid LSD from a dropper, so he and his friends took a drop each and headed home with all the k we'd bought for the rave.

They got back to one of his friend's houses to wait for the acid to kick in and normalize before even thinking about the k, but after an hour or so none of them were feeling any effects from the acid, so, grittily deciding that they'd been duped, they all had a big line of k each instead.

As the ket began to make itself noticable, he began to feel that good old "T minus five and counting" feeling you get just before rocketing up on acid, and from there, as the psychadelic effects of the ket and the acid built upon and intertwined with each other, on the night descended into one of the most intense journeys he'd ever had (in parts beautiful and in parts terrifying, but always changing. It took him through the entire spectrum of human emotion, but always somehow as seen from an outsider's perspective, as if these feelings were in a museum)

SWIM would recommend it, but would advise you to be careful, and only to do this if you are familiar with both substances (which SWIM wasn't fully at the time), and get into the good old acid realm before taking the ketamine and enjoy that for a bit first.

Great closed-eye visuals though, oranges that melt right through your retina and bathe your mind in warmth 8)

SWIM has done it once since, but thinks that these sorts of psychonautical excursions should be kept spaced quite far apart, for future sanity's sake

--EDITED TO REMOVE SELF-INCRIMINATION. D'OH!--

[experimenter]

SWIM tried it once this last summer. Swim was peeking pretty hard on LSD and took a few bumps of K. When the K started hitting swim it was one of the coolest intense trips of his life, every time he would turn his head he would be in a new location. Swim is a large fan of intense trips where he doesn't know what's going on.

[EntheogenicTruth]

does any swiys have any recommendations for dosage and setting for an experience such as this. swim weighs about 60 kilograms and wants to be taken to another world entirely. any info would be helpful.

[VitaminK22]

This combination will definately take you to another universe. Swim recommends that you get familiar with LSD first. When swim started this combination, he took 2 tabs and waited to reach the peak, he then sniffed small amounts of K off a key. The when he knew what the effects felt like, he moved onto lines, racking bigger & bigger lines.
Now swim has gone crazy for it and drops 2 XTC pills and 3 tabs at the same time then starts sniffin the K. Doing this has sent swim into other dimensions, walls start melting, swim sees dark neon blue lightning bolts all over the room.
Swim has never had a bad trip and he thinks he never will.

[Mammon]

SWIM had the acid, ket combo the other weekend at a big rave with other stuff like coke, MDMA and Nos. Basically SWIM found the acid more powerful than the others and kind of dominated the thing. It was a good time but at it's peak extremely powerful - the halucinations were so strong, I really didn't know where I was. Only try it if you're used to both drugs and can handle extreme hallucinations, otherwise it might f**k you up a bit.
After a weekend of pounding back drugs, though, SWIM would say you just can't beat the old LSD for money put in / time spent wasted. It'd been years since SWIM had done it and he'd forgotten what a laugh it can be. Helps if you've got a mate to laugh at stuff with, though.

[[éS]Infinite]

SWIM has done this once, roughly 150 mg intranasal at 5 hours after ingesting a hit LSD. He noticed a greatly intensified trip, and felt quite suddenly as though the chair he was sitting in was sinking at rapid speed into the earth (and was seeing it with open eyes). Music was stopped with quite some difficulty, and he sat and waited it out. He has a great appreciation now for the mixing of ketamine with psychedelics, and rarely ever practices it.

[pinkandfluffy]

Swim tried this last night (still digesting all the events before i write a report), and with MDMA later on. It was interesting, swim didn't totally feel the K as much as he normally would, and its hard to say WHAT exactly it changed (im sure it would have changed something). Swim reccomends it in sub-khole doses.

[trptamene]

Not to derail this thread, but why is LSD + K kitty flip, but I thought MDMA + K was kitty flip.

[Coifio]

my friend wrote me a letter about such an experience.....

"i remember one night i was stumbling home on acid lost and dint know which way was home......... instead of having a bad trip and a scary walk home, ketamine numbed me from the danger and confusion i was in and i just walked on home......"

[PingoTango]

Originally Posted by trptamene

Not to derail this thread, but why is LSD + K kitty flip, but I thought MDMA + K was kitty flip.

LSD+MDMA is a candy flip
MDMA+ketamine is kitty flip

I think? These terms aren't really banded around in the uk too often...

[Samadhi]

Originally Posted by trptamene

Not to derail this thread, but why is LSD + K kitty flip, but I thought MDMA + K was kitty flip.

I was under the impression that LSD+K+MDMA was a kitty flip...

oops
damn kids with their slang

[Bajeda]

^^^^ Yes. The thread title is a bit confusing because of that, as it refers to two different things.

[Jatelka]

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