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Old 21-03-2007, 05:10
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cleaning ecstasy pills via a simple acetone wash

This is a thread that SWIM previously wrote on another forum. However, the results are remarkable to say the least! SWIM feels as though he has perfected the art of cleaning cocaine, so he thought he'd take a turn at ecstasy this time around. Enjoy!....................

As most of you are probably aware, SWIM wrote the "cocaine purification......the absolute final thread" thread in OD. Well, SWIM's decided to diversify and play my hand at cleaning ecstasy. Good news, it works! And it works really, really well!

Last night SWIM took some yellow Louis Vuittons and they felt like anything other than pure MDMA, though they certainly tested well for it with the EZ Extreme. Afterwards, SWIM could only attribute the experience to that of MDE, though SWIM really didn't know for sure. The problem, as most of you are aware, is that there is no test to differentiate between MDMA and MDE. And the problem with that is that one of those two is great while the other is, well, crap!

All day long SWIM was going back and forth wondering if it was indeed MDE or perhaps caffeine, seeing as how there's no test for that either. After agonizing over it for hours, SWIM decided to perform a simple anhydrous (water free) acetone wash on 4 pills. Caffeine is entirely soluble in acetone while MDMA is not. Therefore, you'll simply be rinsing the caffeine right off of your pills, or I guess powder at this point.

Well low and behold, these previous pills, now turned powder that SWIM thought might be MDE last night has been turned into nothing less than the smoothest, most beautiful molly type of MDMA high SWIM had in a very, very long time.

Like SWIM said, SWIM crushed up 4 pills and then washed them in acetone. The result was about 1/2 of what SWIM originally put in, but that's because there's no more fillers, binders, caffeine or a host of other nasty byproducts.

SWIM is doing this shit right now and it is nothing like last night. And this is back to back nights as well!

SWIM's been doing E since it was legal and SWIM will tell you, this is as good as it gets folks! That, and it's so easy to perform a small child could do it. If nothing else, it will drastically help to clean your pills of byproducts, binders and fillers, some of which cause stomach discomfort etc.

Let's put it this way: SWIM WILL NEVER DO A PILL AGAIN UNTIL HE CLEANS IT FIRST! There's just way to much, who knows what, in these pills nowdays to not do it. Personally, SWIM is going to do an anhydrous acetone wash followed by a cold water extraction on all my pills from now on. The same pills SWIM took two nights ago vs. the same cleaned up one's SWIM took last night are so far apart it's like a whole different drug! And that's in a good way. Did SWIM also state that when they were dirty he had stomach cramps? But absolutely none after cleaning them. So what does that tell ya? Well, you've got everything to gain and nothing to lose, that's all..............

Okay, SWIM says it's getting pretty hard to still read the screen, but he'll continue on as best he can. He is a soldier!

SWIM will outline below how to make hardware store acetone anhydrous by the use of epsom salts turned anhydrous magnesium sulphate with heating. But may SWIM strongly suggest that you just skip that and simply order lab grade anhydrous acetone via a chemical supply company. It's much better quality and it's not that expensive either. Nor is it a watched item. SWIM would order a 1 liter bottle, it's all you'll need for awhile.

If not, you can make simple hardware/home store acetone anhydrous with the following directions:

When using 4 tabs as the control, take a tall shot glass or a 50 ml. glass beaker and fill it to 20 ml.s with anhydrous acetone. If you don't have anhydrous acetone, simply go to Home Depot, Menards, or Lowes and purchase a 1 liter can of acetone in the paint section. Also grab a bag of epsom salts. When you get home, spread some epsom salts out onto an aluminum covered baking sheet. Bake the salt for 2 hours at 400 degrees F. At the two hour mark, you should now have a greyish looking ash, better known as anhydrous magnesium sulphate. Scrap up about 15-20 grams of the magnesium sulphate ash and pour it directly into the can of hardware store acetone. Once it's all in, replace the lid and shake vigorously for about 5 minutes. This will insure that the magnesium sulphate has completely absorbed any and all of the water/alcohol that's in the hardware store acetone. Let stand for 24 hours to insure that all of the mag. sulphate has fully absorbed all of the water/alcohol and has thus sunk to the bottom of the can. Once done, never pour from the can again. We want that pile of goo, now at the bottom of the can, to stay there. So therefore, use a glass eye dropper to get down inside of the container to extract the acetone as needed. Now you're ready to go! If you already have lab grade acetone, then you will start from here as well...

Pour 20 ml.s of anhydrous acetone into a 50 ml. beaker and add your finely chopped pills, now powder, into the acetone. Stir thoroughly for about 2-3 minutes. Cover and let settle. Let the acetone on top become clear while the molly crystals mixed with some acetone insoluble cuts lay on the bottom. Once settled, carefully pour out the top layer of now dirty acetone stoping just short of any powder falling into the filter. Cover the filter and repour 10 more ml.s of fresh acetone into the original beaker still containing your mostly MDMA crytals with a little residual flat powder stuck to the side from the original pour. Cover and let settle. Once again, carefully try and pour into the original filter, just the flat powder looking substance stoping just short of the crystals. This time, you should have at least 98% pure MDMA crytals left in the beaker, and just a trace of powder still, if any.

Remove, but don't throw away the original filter paper. Replace with a fresh new filter paper, swirl the final washing and pour the entire contents into the new filter paper. Cover. Pour a little fresh acetone into the beaker to gather any remaining crystals and pour them into the fillter paper. Cover and let drain thoroughly. Remove and press the filter paper containing the nearly pure MDMA crystals inside in between a few paper towels to absorb any excess acetone. Preferably leave inside of the filter paper and let air dry in a non-humid environment for at least 48 hours. Once evaporated for 48 hours, simply divide the pile of powder into 4 seperate piles (the number of original pills that went in) and consider each pile one seperate hit. There is no way short of GC/MS testing to determine the actual mg.s per pile, but there is exactly the same amount of MDMA per pile as there were per tablet before this procedure started. Therefore, if you normally take 2 pills out of the shoot, then you should now consume 2 piles out of the shoot. That's it!

Now just drop and enjoy!


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another awesome tek
very informative, brings a smile to my face :)
Great post!
Great Post. Keep up the good work.
excellent threads but - you MUST get out of the habit of writing in the first person on this board - no self-incrimination is rule #1
Impressive work.
great informative write up
A useful and informative piece
Excellent Thread!!
Cheers for that excellent !
Absolute genius! Thanks to SWiLJ for the hard work & sharing of knowledge! Star!
Great work
NICE!
accidently gave love to gilligan_911 but meant to give the love to this wonderful post (sorry Alfa or whoever mods).
Great work again Le Junk, very easy to understand
nice one, thanks
good info
Great post on cleaning pills
Very concise; helps greatly towards harm minimisation
very useful and and will save swim and friends from rubbish pill experiences THANK YOU!!!!
great tek, this is an extremely informative and useful post
Simply mind blowing, Swim never imagined such things as extracting mdma crystals from decent-high quality pressed and stamped "thizz" pills were even remotely possible without lots of expensive lab equipment and knowledge, same with purifying cola!
amazing that something could be so simple yet so few people know about it. This could quite honestly save lives.
Excellent guide, good harm reduction info.
awsome articale...i needed that god bless you!
great info....that will keep people safe!!!
Wow, amazing write up! Thanks for the information.
Nice post. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent post.
Another excellent purification tek.
Thanksfor the info, may very well come in handy so a certain individual!
Awesome information, well put and easy to read!Would like to see more threads on "Chemical Purifications"
Highly useful information. Please be careful not to post seemingly contradictory info later in the thread though (eg on cap size)
Its the most informative and descriptive pieces we've read on here so far.
Had to give it up to this thread. This is amazing.
very imformative
spot on vital information for any swimmer
Thanks for helping to keep people safe. I hope people actually use this info.
Great information, makes cleaning of pills accessible to all
Easy to understand tek, really is do simple a child could do it. My hat goes off to you sir
great explanation.

Last edited by Le Junk; 01-04-2011 at 18:13. Reason: Updated as taken from post # 70 of this thread. Should be easier to understand now. Enjoy!
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Old 21-03-2007, 05:19
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

Molly is so amazing. Thanks for the Dirty Pill to Molly tek! (suggestion to name, hint.) It's great to see you getting involved here. Keep the great stuff coming.

Please remember things a bit differant here then most forums, as self incrimination is cracked down on pretty hard. I'm sure swiy didn't mean to say "I took some yellow Louis Vuittons" but rather that you dreamed of it or that swim did, right?
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Old 21-03-2007, 05:27
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

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Molly is so amazing. Thanks for the Dirty Pill to Molly tek! (suggestion to name, hint.) It's great to see you getting involved here. Keep the great stuff coming.

Please remember things a bit differant here then most forums, as self incrimination is cracked down on pretty hard. I'm sure swiy didn't mean to say "I took some yellow Louis Vuittons" but rather that you dreamed of it or that swim did, right?
That is correct Pinkavvy. For example, I don't even do drugs!

And thanks for welcoming me aboard. I look forward to another addiction!

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Old 21-03-2007, 05:37
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

SWIM would like clarification. So, step 1 is to purchase anhydrous acetone, take the pills to be "cleansed" and powderize them, then soak the powder in the acetone right? How long, and what happens to the acetone? Does it evaporate? Does swiy have to let the powder sit and dry out? Does swiy have to filter the "fillers, binders" etc out of the acetone wash to leave clean, untainted MDMA? Once the acetone is gone, any remaining material is safe for ingesting correct?
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Old 21-03-2007, 05:43
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

Swip had to do a retake to make sure, and yep his first instinct was correct. All of those questions are very clearly answered. Follow the tek exactly as said above.
The 4th paragraph from the bottom has all your answers.
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Old 21-03-2007, 05:46
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

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Swip had to do a retake to make sure, and yep his first instinct was correct. All of those questions are very clearly answered. Follow the tek exactly as said above.
The 4th paragraph from the bottom has all your answers.
^^^What he said!

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Old 21-03-2007, 05:59
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

LOL thanks guys. unconsciously, SWIM skipped the last few paragraphs believing it was a long explanation on how to make the anhydrous acetone, not the rest of the explanation on the actual wash! luckily it was SWIM, and not the person speaking for him .

So, SWIM assumes MDE is also soluble in the acetone? Or, are all of the SWIMs still stuck with the problem of getting bunk MDE sold as MDMA? SWIY mentioned what you THOUGHT was MDE was purified into molly. Could it have just been caffeine?

And I guessed "molly" is the term for pure MDMA crystals, I assume thats right .
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Old 21-03-2007, 06:10
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

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LOL thanks guys. unconsciously, SWIM skipped the last few paragraphs believing it was a long explanation on how to make the anhydrous acetone, not the rest of the explanation on the actual wash! luckily it was SWIM, and not the person speaking for him .

So, SWIM assumes MDE is also soluble in the acetone? Or, are all of the SWIMs still stuck with the problem of getting bunk MDE sold as MDMA? SWIY mentioned what you THOUGHT was MDE was purified into molly. Could it have just been caffeine?

And I guessed "molly" is the term for pure MDMA crystals, I assume thats right .
I think we're finally on the same page now..........I think, anyway. Yes, at first I thought it was either MDE or possibly caffeine. I only specualted it might have been MDE due to the lack of love and empathy etc. However, after cleaning the adulterated pills, I found that the pills were infact MDMA, simply masked by common adulterants. And no, MDE is not soluble in acetone, but as it turns out, they didn't actually contain any in the first place. End of story! Night, night.

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Old 21-03-2007, 06:12
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

Cool stuff. SWIM found the stickied thread somewhere else, and reading the responses there help answer SWIM's questions. SWIY is the man!!!!

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Old 21-03-2007, 07:43
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

Nice work man . SWIM is going to be using this on his next roll(rave in 2 weeks). However, it should be pointed out that this will not separate out MDA/MDE from MDMA, nor will it remove other amphetamines. And my best guess is that it will not remove PMA, unfortunately.

Does anyone know of a way to separate these substances?
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

Le Junk, please take the time to go back and edit your original post to rid it of anything incriminating.
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Old 21-03-2007, 17:41
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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

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Nice work man . SWIM is going to be using this on his next roll(rave in 2 weeks). However, it should be pointed out that this will not separate out MDA/MDE from MDMA, nor will it remove other amphetamines. And my best guess is that it will not remove PMA, unfortunately.

Does anyone know of a way to separate these substances?
Yeah, I can! You can either use 99% isopropanol alcohol or 95%, 190 proof ethanol and perform an extraction. It must be noted that this will not seperate MDE or MDA from MDMA as those are very closely related and seperation of the two would involve much more advanced equipment such as GC/MS just to get started.

However, amphetamine can be easily washed out with an MDMA extraction using one of the two above mentioned alcohols. MDMA is soluble in the two alcohols while it takes 515 ml.s of either one just to dissolve 1 gram of amphetamine. With this number on our side, we can simply dissolve a gram or more of your amphetamine adulterated MDMA in 20 ml.s of 99% isopropanol alcohol. Stir for a minute or two, filter thru a medium flow filter paper (a must for this procedure), and then let drain onto an awaiting glass Pyrex dish. Once all of the alcohol/MDMA has drained thru, add about 10 more ml.s of fresh isopropanol alcohol to the filter to collect any remaining MDMA that may have permiated the filter paper. Once completely drained, fold the filter paper over and squeeze firmly to squeeze out any excess alcohol/MDMA and onto the Pyrex dish. Evaporate the alcohol off by use of a hot blow dryer. Once all of the liquid has evaporated off, let the crystals form on their own overnight. By morning you'll have a sweet tasty surprise awaiting you!

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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

Thread is now open to questions, etc.

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Yeah, I can! You can either use 99% isopropanol alcohol or 95%, 190 proof ethanol and perform an extraction. It must be noted that this will not seperate MDE or MDA from MDMA as those are very closely related and seperation of the two would involve much more advanced equipment such as GC/MS just to get started.

However, amphetamine can be easily washed out with an MDMA extraction using one of the two above mentioned alcohols. MDMA is soluble in the two alcohols while it takes 515 ml.s of either one just to dissolve 1 gram of amphetamine. With this number on our side, we can simply dissolve a gram or more of your amphetamine adulterated MDMA in 20 ml.s of 99% isopropanol alcohol. Stir for a minute or two, filter thru a medium flow filter paper (a must for this procedure), and then let drain onto an awaiting glass Pyrex dish. Once all of the alcohol/MDMA has drained thru, add about 10 more ml.s of fresh isopropanol alcohol to the filter to collect any remaining MDMA that may have permiated the filter paper. Once completely drained, fold the filter paper over and squeeze firmly to squeeze out any excess alcohol/MDMA and onto the Pyrex dish. Evaporate the alcohol off by use of a hot blow dryer. Once all of the liquid has evaporated off, let the crystals form on their own overnight. By morning you'll have a sweet tasty surprise awaiting you!

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Do you think that 91% ispropyl alcohol would work? If not, the epsom salt water extraction should work just as well to remove the moisture from isopropyl alcohol, right?
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Old 24-03-2007, 21:43
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Do you think that 91% ispropyl alcohol would work? If not, the epsom salt water extraction should work just as well to remove the moisture from isopropyl alcohol, right?
The 99% isopropyl alcohol is the recommended solvent according to the Merke index. I don't think I'd attempt to deviate from such a reliable source as that.

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Re: cleaning your pills via a simple acetone wash

99% iso-Propanol (isopropyl alcohol) is commonly used in many applications. Many drug stores stock it, or can order it for one. Or hunting about will bear fruit. It makes a good lens cleaner for photographic instruments - for example.

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99% iso-Propanol (isopropyl alcohol) is commonly used in many applications. Many drug stores stock it, or can order it for one. Or hunting about will bear fruit. It makes a good lens cleaner for photographic instruments - for example.
^^^What he said!

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Re: cleaning ecstasy pills via a simple acetone wash

A friend of mine would like to know if anyone had any recommendation on what type of filters to use, would coffee filters work? He would also like to know if things like 2C-I/B and ketamine are soluble in acetone
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A friend of mine would like to know if anyone had any recommendation on what type of filters to use, would coffee filters work? He would also like to know if things like 2C-I/B and ketamine are soluble in acetone
Coffee filters, no. And as far as other adulterants go, only caffeine and amphetamine are removable for now, plus just the basic whole cleansing of the pills in general.

Try and do a Google, Yahoo or another search engine for solubilities of 2-CB, ketamine and whatever else your curious about. Once you find out, please do share!

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Re: cleaning ecstasy pills via a simple acetone wash

2 questions
1. Swim was wondering if the substance extracted with acetone would be safe to snort, I'm guessing it would be as Swim usually snorts plain crushed pills but after soacked in acetone swim thought it may be safer to let the powder go through the stomach first.

2. Where do you get proper filters, Swim dont know what they are called, just not coffee filters. Swim try to find proper filters for codine extraction with no luck.
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Re: cleaning ecstasy pills via a simple acetone wash

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1. Swim was wondering if the substance extracted with acetone would be safe to snort, I'm guessing it would be as Swim usually snorts plain crushed pills but after soacked in acetone swim thought it may be safer to let the powder go through the stomach first.

2. Where do you get proper filters, Swim dont know what they are called, just not coffee filters. Swim try to find proper filters for codine extraction with no luck.
thanks for answers.
Go online and do a search for chemical supply/chemistry supply companies. You'll be needing 15 cm. wide, medium flow filter papers. If your calling or ordering online from a chemistry supply company anyway, you may as well go ahead and get yourself all the other right equipment such as a couple 50 ml. glass beakers, a couple 100 ml. glass beakers, a couple 6 inch glass stir rods, the filter papers, of course, and anything else you might be needing.......

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Re: cleaning ecstasy pills via a simple acetone wash

hey LE Junk swim has a question for ya.. when you did your acetone wash bout what percent of the pill actually came back? like was it only bout 40 % mdma? because swim is into pure powder he doesnt like the speedy stuff he just likes a nice hardcore roll for a few hours and alot of the stuff running around is pretty junky lately. But swim was just curious about that because he is able to get ahold of some pills for really really cheap and he was curious bout trying that wash to see how it works out and maybe he'll just do that instead of searching for pure powder all the time. thanks for your help LE Junk swim appericates it
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Re: cleaning ecstasy pills via a simple acetone wash

A question on the filters, would this suffice?

equivalent to Whatman #1
pore size is 11 microns (11um)
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Is there any other solvents we could possibly use, like something SWIM would find in our household?

Would Isopropyl alchol work for caffeine and amphetamine at the same time, since caffeine is soluble in water?

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Re: cleaning ecstasy pills via a simple acetone wash

The answer is no. This method has been worked out carefully to make it as simple as possible. Stick with the recipe, or enjoy your waffles.

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