Tramadol

[radiometer]

tripp - you were asked, in the other thread you started, not to incriminate your self in your posts. If you continue to make self-incriminating statements, you will find your reputation points to be on a very fast downward slide. Please re-word your post.

[kingkenny]

Somebody told me it stings like a bitch if you snort it and doesn't increase the high much if at all, he said not to bother.

[sterling77]

After one attempt at snorting it seemed less effective than swallowing it.

[Fantasian]

UTFSE - Use the forum search engine

However at a small expensive of my time i dont mind filling you in on the substance briefly.

Tramadol (AKA Ultram)
Clinical dosages - 25, 50, 100 mg
Synthetic opiate

There has been slight arguements whether Tramadol is a true opiate however due to it acting on the opioid receptors my own interpretation is that it is.

It's effects are the same as all opiates, dizziness, lightheadness, nausea, respiritory depression and of course Euphoria.

In comparison to other opiates it's effects are longer lasting than ones such as codeine and morphine but not as long as methodone. There are suitable dosages comparisons if once again you UTFSE.

a brief word on tramadol from SWIM: "an enjoyable but slightly too stimulating high for opiates,long lasting and not very intense, in SWIM's oppinion not one of his favourites but has it's rightful place"

Briefly on dosages(accounts in the first person from SWIM):
Doses are oral unless specified otherwise

50mg - Surprised that at the lowest dosage it was prescribed to me having such an effect, i feel a tingling throughout my body and a general relaxed feeling.(it should be noted that at this point SWIM has little or no tolerance to opiates)

100mg - The same as above however more pronounced the dizziness played a large factor here and made moving around a little more difficult. Only able to really watch television, goto the toilet and move small distances.

150mg - Euphoria and dizziness increased further however sedation usually associated with opiates not present. Much more difficult to move around, even getting to the toilet is difficult and leaving the bed is becoming harder. Urinary retention also present however still able to urinate. Noted that there was a physical withdrawal or hangover effect for 20 hours post use after the posative effects wore off.

200mg - Euphoria significant, bed ridden, require aid to reach the toilet however not much point as urinary retention and constapation is significant. Same effects as above but more intense.

250mg - no new effects than above, hangover slightly less pleasent causing several times of vomiting..

300mg - Still no new effects, conclusion that a ceiling effect is reached no further experimentation above this dose will occur.

100mg Snorted - burning sensation throughout the nose, very small high less than that of a 50mg oral dosage. Not reccommended

Finally when using Tramadol note that it binds strongly to the opioid receptors and that it can displace other opiates. Consider this when using it in combination.

Hope that helped,

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Good post, especially on the different dosage levels.

[Citizen Kane]

Originally Posted by Fantasian

However at a small expensive of my time i dont mind filling you in on the substance briefly.

Thank you for this very informative post. I can confirm that the information you gave is correct and reliable.

Tramadol (AKA Ultram)
Clinical dosages - 25, 50, 100 mg
Synthetic opiate

There has been slight arguements whether Tramadol is a true opiate however due to it acting on the opioid receptors my own interpretation is that it is.

About an hour ago, I dissolved 500mg tramadol hydrochloride with some sugar in a cup of hot black tea and drank it. I have about 200 pounds of body weight and am currently not opiate-tolerant.

I agree with you that it definitely has the effects of an opiate.

It's effects are the same as all opiates, dizziness, lightheadness, nausea, respiritory depression and of course Euphoria.

Yup. I'm, however, a bit atypical from the average person in that I never experienced nausea on any opiate in my whole life. For me the effects are only very pleasant. Contrary to most other opiates, I also don't experience any itching on tramadol.

In comparison to other opiates it's effects are longer lasting than ones such as codeine and morphine but not as long as methodone.

Also absolutely correct, Sir. The effects gradually start to diminish after some hours and usually can no longer be felt after about a day.

There are suitable dosages comparisons if once again you UTFSE.

a brief word on tramadol from SWIM: "an enjoyable but slightly too stimulating high for opiates,long lasting and not very intense, in SWIM's oppinion not one of his favourites but has it's rightful place"

There my personal experience differs. Dosages higher than 300mg (without opiate tolerance) produce for me quite an intensive feeling, comparable to 3mg of buprenorphine (which is a rather high dose if one hasn't developed any tolerance).

100mg Snorted - burning sensation throughout the nose, very small high less than that of a 50mg oral dosage. Not reccommended.

Here I can absolutely agree again. Snorting it doesn't produce the same effects.

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A supportive and well written post, with good experience backing it up

[Fantasian]

Thanks for the support and a well written post, however you do self incriminate yourself in the latest post, you should use SWIM when referring to drug use as i have in the previous post. Please read up on this.

Apart from that good information.

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However, Tramal I receive fortunately totally legal via medical prescription. ;)

[Citizen Kane]

Originally Posted by Fantasian

Thanks for the support and a well written post, however you do self incriminate yourself in the latest post, you should use SWIM when referring to drug use as i have in the previous post. Please read up on this.

Apart from that good information.

Thanks for the tip. Very good idea.

[AchaeaPerson]

Oh, and hey, would tramadol show up on a urine test that's testing for 'Marijuana, Cocaine, Opiates (including Heroin), Methamphetamines (Meth), Ecstasy, Amphetamines, Phencyclidine (PCP)'
Not sure, because there's a separate test for prescription drugs like methadone and oxycodone.

[Forthesevenlakes]

Originally Posted by AchaeaPerson

Oh, and hey, would tramadol show up on a urine test that's testing for 'Marijuana, Cocaine, Opiates (including Heroin), Methamphetamines (Meth), Ecstasy, Amphetamines, Phencyclidine (PCP)'
Not sure, because there's a separate test for prescription drugs like methadone and oxycodone.

Actually, on a test like this, tramadol is so chemically dissimilar to heroin/morphine/codeine (which are the opiates usually tested for), that theres a strong chance it wont be detected. SWIM has no direct experience this, so take this with a grain of salt, but he has two or three firsthand accounts of people passing these tests after taking tramadol. Of course, a couple of these people swear by snorting tramadol (which SWIM finds disgusting and ineffective) so maybe its best to read up on these tests yourself before throwing caution to the wind.

[old hippie 56]

Most likely, but according to the type of test being given. Highly accurate tests will detect it, like the ones ran through a lab.

[AchaeaPerson]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. SWIM takes tramadol pretty regularly, so maybe he'll just swing by Walgreens and pick up a home drug test kit. Are those results comparable to the standard lab GC/MC thing? Like if it tests negative on the home one, do you think it still might test positive on a more advanced test? Meh. I'll do some research.

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Good questions on Tramadol

[old hippie 56]

If tramadol is like most pills, it should be out of a person system in three or four days. Drink plenty of water just in case.

[Fantasian]

This question is not that difficult to answer.

Tramadol larger differs structurally to other opiates even though it works on the same receptors. In normal 7 panel drugs test tramadol will NOT give a posative result. However in some 10 panel drugs test with extended tests tramadol can be tested for, the test for tramadol however is relatively expensive and specific so it is quite rare unless already tramadol use is already suspected.

The half life for tramadol is 7 hours so depending on the dosage the drug should leave ones body pretty quickly anyway.

here is a question already asked on erowid.

Q: Does Tramadol Hcl and it's metabolites cause positive on a standard urine test which is bought in a shop

A: Tramadol is not screened for and should not produce any sort of postive on a standard urine test. The half-life of Tramadol is about 7 hours. A mass spectrometer (gc/ms) would probably be required to detect it after a simple urine extraction method. While this is possible to do, it is not standard procedure even for urine tests which are processed in labs. So unless a urine sample is being sent in to a laboratory, it is unlikely that Tramadol will cause any sort of positive test result.

I think this answers your question slightly better than i did

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Helpful and thorough answer to my question.

[AchaeaPerson]

So if I understand correctly, most tests I might encounter won't detec it at all, but the GC/MS will detect it, but only for 7 hours after my last tramadol dose (depending on usage/frequence give or take a few hours)?

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Good set of questions.

[Fantasian]

yeh in brief:

Most tests even lab tests will not detect tramadol

However if tramadol use is suspected it is possible to test for. Via mass spectroscopy. (this is not normal practice)

No the half life is 7 hours, that means that in 7 hours the body has broken down half of the original dose. ie if you took 200mg after 7 hours only 100mg is still present in the blood stream. As this dose lessens and lessens it becomes smaller and smaller until it reaches a point where tests do not detect it. I my oppinion i'd say that dosage is probably 10mg ish but that just a random estimation, so give it a couple of days however if you want to be sure, tramadol will definately be out your system assuming you arn't taking MASSIVE dosages or using it every day for a long period within 1 week.

[searcher]

I have been given a preescription for tramadol, 50 MG.
I have been taking it for 4 days and will probably be on it for many years. I have a broken back and related painful neuropathy in my legs and feet (don't f up your back),
First thing I noticed is actual reduction in pain, so it did work, a little. I took 250-300 mg to become relatively pain free (my pain is so intense, nothing actually stops it), It gave me dry mouth and it made me itch, not a very mellow feeling, but it did help with pain, a little. I'm down to 50 MG today and feel a little better (used 50 mg with acetominaphin).

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by searcher

I have been given a preescription for tramadol, 50 MG.
I have been taking it for 4 days and will probably be on it for many years. I have a broken back and related painful neuropathy in my legs and feet (don't f up your back),
First thing I noticed is actual reduction in pain, so it did work, a little. I took 250-300 mg to become relatively pain free (my pain is so intense, nothing actually stops it), It gave me dry mouth and it made me itch, not a very mellow feeling, but it did help with pain, a little. I'm down to 50 MG today and feel a little better (used 50 mg with acetominaphin).

Good to hear your better, 300mg is the max clincial dose for Tramadol here in the UK im surprised they didnt up you onto a stronger opiate. Good to hear you able to cut back down on it though, best of luck.

[KomodoMK]

Not sure if this is right place to post this, but does anyone know what the status of Tramadol in UK law is and if it is legal to buy online?

SWIM would also be interested in anyones experiences with this drug and the dosage. Thanks. <3

[Micklemouse]

Tramadol is not controlled in the U.K., apart from under the Medicines Act, meaning it is illegal to supply to someone without a valid prescription.

A quick search brings up tramadol - controlled or not? & Tramadol experiences

Moved to Opiates because that is what is it, closed in advance because already well covered...

[Chunkz]

how many swims has Used Tramadol before, and agrees that it one best non-scheduled "Opiates" or what ever, out there! Oh yes and fell free to share reports here!

SWIM has taken 8pills(400mg,50mg per tab), and was xtremely shocked! It was incredible how one would not be impared, he could do anything, yet feel relly euphoric. AMAZING stuff! By the way 400mg's a max.

[Nicaine]

SWIM was only impressed the first time he tried it. After that he never really got anything pleasant from it, no matter what the dosage.

P.S. 400mg is downright dangerous/reckless... SWIM would not recommend anyone attempt that dose, particularly someone trying it for the first time or who's inexperienced with opiates.

[Chunkz]

Oh yes. When i hit 400mg's, it was at booster dosages, I didn't take them all at once, and wouldn't reccomend to!

[ironmics]

400 is not that huge if you're used to it. Swim was taking 200 once or twice a day when he started to tolerate them. Then he started cycling with real opiates and the tolerance stayed low for both of them. 400 would only maybe put you in risky territory with seratonin, since breathing depression is not very pronounced with tramadol.

[Isochrist]

SWIM never found anything worthwhile in these unfortunately.

Disappointing at best.

[Nagognog2]

They made Bongo break into a sweat and feel jumpy and irritable. No pleasant effects at all. Didn't even kill the pain he was being treated for. Was switched to codeine. It worked.