SWIM's experiences with Tramadol

[delphinen]

Tramadol has been an interesting drug. While not particularly strong in some effects as other substances, it has proven to be a "special" drug that induces weird feelings that lasts very long.

The most obvious feeling is the body relaxation that feels very good; this, along with the dull of pain, makes sitting or lying around a true delicious moment of pleasure.

Body pleasure has been achievable by taking large doses and lying on bed, while twiching on it because of the pleasure.

SWIM has experienced some mild and weird visuals on this drug. The visuals were similar to the"caleidocope layer" on DXM, but more random and difficult to "follow".This visuals appeared specially with the eyes closed, but some distortions ocurred with the eyes opened too. SWIM also felt a feeling as if the room where he was would become giant.

Thanks to the tranquil nature of this drug, SWIM has found that is possible to take it while working or traveling; working becomes a little more interesting, as if repetitive tasks would be not so boring, while difficult and challenging tasks could be done without problems too. Travelling would be very nice, specially looking at a window while listening to music.

The most difficult effects to describe are those of happiness and socials. Basically, Tramadol enhances positive thinking and makes easier to behave social and have conversations, kinda being less shy with people.

[thealexcometh]

a lot of what you are saying swim would agree with. It is much milder leaving you able to go do things and just feel happy. You still can take a larger amount, maybe mix it with some pot and have a nice chill out time too.

[ironmics]

Swim also loves tramadol for the mood boost and great analgesia. Sadly though swim has started taking zoloft, which is a very potent CY2D6 inhibitor apparently and it has removed a lot of the pain killing potential it has. Don't worry swim asked his doctor very specifically about seretonin symdrome, and said I would be fine in the dosages I was taking.

[delphinen]

SWIM has found that large doses like 150mg and 200mg makes him feel very nice, he can feel the tingling pleasure in his chest that is so sweet. Music also sounds very "powerful", very DXM-like.

SWIM plans to buy more of this drugs because it feels very very nice on large doses and it doesnt blocks him mentally nor physically.

SWIM would like to know how strong are the pleasure on large doses of Tramadol compared to other opiates like Codeine or Morphine.

[Chunkz]

Originally Posted by delphinen

SWIM has found that large doses like 150mg and 200mg makes him feel very nice, he can feel the tingling pleasure in his chest that is so sweet. Music also sounds very "powerful", very DXM-like.

SWIM plans to buy more of this drugs because it feels very very nice on large doses and it doesnt blocks him mentally nor physically.

SWIM would like to know how strong are the pleasure on large doses of Tramadol compared to other opiates like Codeine or Morphine.

SWIM popped 400mg's worth! It is nice to.

Check my other thread out: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29150

[delphinen]

Originally Posted by U.s.a.sta

I enjoyed this Tramadol! I heard of it being weak euphorically, but i loved it!

how much did you take?

[delphinen]

oh you took a lot.. nice to hear it went fine with you
have you taken other opiates before? could you compare tramadol with another opiates?

[psycholic]

Non-narcotic my ass.

Swim got this for a leg injury and the doctor told swim to take it before school and said it was non-narcotic. hahaa

[ironmics]

I would call it non narcotic. Narcotic means that it makes you sleep technically. Tramadol does quite the oposite to most people, and some say its almost amphetamine like.

[Sickpup]

The company who made tramadol duped the FDA and DEA by cooking the books on the research data.atm Tramadol is on the DEA watch list of concern.Technically it is non-narcotic.Only opiates or synthetic opiates are classified narcotic by the DEA. http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/index.html
However from SWIM read about tramadol is it hits the opiate receptors and is a pure opiate agonist with no apap.Docs give out free samples and are writing it like candy.How the pharma pulled this off is amazing.By DEA guidelines this would be a c-2.

Pfizer tried the same stunt with Lyrica,but FDA/DEA wound out making it a c-5,originally was c-4,but pfizer is worlds largest pharma,da,da,da.But ISO firmly belives the tramadol fiasco ,caused Lyrica to get slammed,lol.

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by Sickpup

How the pharma pulled this off is amazing.By DEA guidelines this would be a c-2.

The high does not feel like a C-II to SWIM. More like a C-V. SWIM doesn't think it necessarily needs to be scheduled, as there's not too much temptation to abuse/addiction (based on how it makes him feel, which is something like an SSRI antidepressant with a bit of euphoria thrown in).

Re: Lyrica scheduling, SWIM thinks it's actually the Neurontin fiasco that caused it to be scheduled.

[Psych0naut]

At a dose of 100mg tramadol was comparable to a low oral dose of amphetamine, a good mood lifter and it made him energetic.
At a dose of 200mg tramadol SWIM was very sedated and feeling like he took a good dose of any other strong opiate.
At a dose of 250mg SWIM was nodding hard for several hours, though the hangover the next day was bad, SWIM puked several times.

[Nicaine]

SWIM maintains that Tramadol affects him much less than even kratom, in terms of feeling "opiated." It just is not very attractive compared to most opiates, the euphoria is refined but weak/subtle. YMMV, of course.

It would be interesting to hear what kind of a street market there is for tramadol (if any)... anyone know?

[Psych0naut]

Don't ask things which can lead to breaking of the rules, like asking for the street market of tramadol, some people might be tempted to answer.

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

Don't ask things which can lead to breaking of the rules, like asking for the street market of tramadol, some people might be tempted to answer.

SWIM just wonders if there is one... he couldn't care less what the street *value* of Tramadol is, just if there's much buying/selling going on. There's no better indicator as to whether it's generally considered a "worthy opiate" or not. If there's lots of street interest, then SWIM is wrong... otherwise, if it's generally considered inferior/crappy on the streets then SWIM may be right that it's not worth scheduling.

P.S. yeah, anyone replying to this please leave out prices (irrelevant, not to mention against the rules)... SWIM is just curious if SWIY knows whether there's much of a black market for it. Not against the rules to ask that, right?

[Sickpup]

c-5's are basically cough syrups that contain only a few percent opiate.DEA guidelines are not just based on abuse potential,but also on the ratio of filler(apap) and wether or not it is a pure agonist,or has an antagonist added.Being Tramadol is,although not technically a narcotic.Its mechanism of action in the end hit opiate receptors,making it a pure agonist.It has no form of antagonist built in say like stadol ns,or buprxophene has.And it contains no apap(there is a version that does,ultracet).Therefore by the laid in stone dea guidelines(codein w/o apap is a c-2) Tramadol would meet criteria for c-2.However the genies out of the bottle,and every pcp doc is writing this stuff out like war and peace.ISO the alphabets will be forced to make it a c-3 so patients can get refills,and ultracet will wind up a c-4.

And yes ISO belive nuerontin was a fiasco,but in a different way.Mainly the pharma having there reps promote snake-oil like off-lable use of a med that was only aproved for siezures.Thats a thread in itself .SWIM had a doc try to stuff him with absurd doses of that crap for anxiety.SWIM immeadiately walked out of p-doc office and discontinued her.

[delphinen]

I have been doing Tramadol for 3 days straight.

First day I did a dose of 150mg in one take. It felt awesome.

Second day I did a dose of 50mg in the midday and 150mg at night. It felt awesome too.

Third day (yesterday) I did 50 mg at 3PM, 100mg at 8PM and another 50mg at 10PM, 200mg in total. It was -nice- but it wasnt like the first two times, the strong effects started to hit pretty much at 1:30 AM, and I was almost sleeping at that time.

It looks Tramadol REALLY takes a long time to peak, at least in high doses.

I'll try 50mg in the midday and 200mg straight in a dose tonight.

Someone knows a way to potentiate the effects of Tramadol, without taking other drugs like Diphenhydramine?

btw, I can see being addictive to this drug could be extremely expensive.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by delphinen

I have been doing Tramadol for 3 days straight.

First day I did a dose of 150mg in one take. It felt awesome.

Second day I did a dose of 50mg in the midday and 150mg at night. It felt awesome too.

Third day (yesterday) I did 50 mg at 3PM, 100mg at 8PM and another 50mg at 10PM, 200mg in total. It was -nice- but it wasnt like the first two times, the strong effects started to hit pretty much at 1:30 AM, and I was almost sleeping at that time.

It looks Tramadol REALLY takes a long time to peak, at least in high doses.

I'll try 50mg in the midday and 200mg straight in a dose tonight.

Someone knows a way to potentiate the effects of Tramadol, without taking other drugs like Diphenhydramine?

btw, I can see being addictive to this drug could be extremely expensive.

Even though Tramadol might be legal were SWIY lives, please use SWIM next time when referring to SWIY's experiences with Tramadol, thanks.

[delphinen]

yes sorry, if you see my posts before you'll see im talking about SWIM, not me
I got confused in the last post, my mistake.

[Sickpup]

There is really no srteet value on tramadol,docs don't even need a DEA number to write it.The pharmas are giving out tons of free samples.Almost any pcp will write it for SWIY all day long,since its not even a DEA issue.There are tons of online pharmacys selling it pretty cheap.It's so widespread available there can't posibly be a street value.

[delphinen]

OK. SWIM had the most pleasurable high of his entire life, and SWIM is in love with this.

06:15: A little grapefruit with an alka-zetser and 2 pills of 50mg Tramadol are ingested.

07:15: 2 more 50mg Tramadol pills are ingested.

Around 08-08:30 SWIM began to feel the classic warm, with an incredible joy of pleasure flowing through his veins, specially the legs and the arms. SWIM spent 2 hours in bed twitching of pleasure; SWIM went to the kitchen after that and had some kind of tremble from the pleasure SWIM had in his body, SWIM managed to eat some chips and a little pepsi, to return to bed and keep feeling the pleasure.

11:00: SWIM already passed the plateau, it feels damn enjoyable, SWIM's body is incredible pleasurable, SWIM cant believe Tramadol can do this.

SWIM has done pot, coke and dxm, and never felt so good.

[beena]

Swim tried tramadol to come down from crack. Bad idea. Swim had chest pain, pins and needles, felt edgy, paranoid, confused. Worst comedown ever. Swim now uses MS Contin for a smoother comedown and mellow buzz.
Swim takes 100mg tramadol every morning though and has a big smile on her face. Definately works well as a mood enhancer, confidence booster, but doesn't combine well with other substances.

[Psych0naut]

It also depends on where you live. Where SWIM lives it has some street value because they're hard to get, let alone stronger opiates.

[addicted4life]

SWIM has taken up to 750 mg of utram. At this point seeing double watching tv, sound is intense, slight hallucination(just seeing something strange out of the corner of the eye), feeling heavy almost paralized(can't even get the remote), feeling awake but sleepy, after a while passing out for 10 to 15 mins at a time and waking up wide awake. SWIM is an experienced opioid user and ranks it just as high as oxycontin or anything in that category.

[delphinen]

Originally Posted by addicted4life

SWIM has taken up to 750 mg of utram. At this point seeing double watching tv, sound is intense, slight hallucination(just seeing something strange out of the corner of the eye), feeling heavy almost paralized(can't even get the remote), feeling awake but sleepy, after a while passing out for 10 to 15 mins at a time and waking up wide awake. SWIM is an experienced opioid user and ranks it just as high as oxycontin or anything in that category.

I think its just a step below Hydrocodone, that is a step below Oxy.
Anyway, being too much available than the others, Tramadol is awesome. Also the SSRI for some people (like me) helps a lot. 500mg Tramadol+20mg Clonazepam+40mg Alprazolam+1g Carisprodol = full body orgasm that last hours.