DOC problem

[twincit44]

SWIM a question he needs some people with expertise to answer. First of all SWIM has tried many, many RC's in various quantities and has a pretty extensive familiarity with these substances. SWIM was very excited to finally try DOC over last winter break. SWIM used a very accurate milligram scale and weighed out a 3.2mg dose. From what swim read, he was expecting DOC to be the shortest compared to DOB and DOI and best suited. SWIM took his dose. Effects began relatively quickly, pretty much after 1 hour, and built up to an incredible trip. After about 3 hours at the peak swim was never so blown away (even by LSD) by the incredible truth and insight he seemed to have, but it was gone as soon as swim started to come back down. There was something so incredible about DOC but swim is very worried to try it again.
The problem was SWIM tripped for 3 days. Literally, 3 days. Now, SWIM is 210 lbs but Swim should mention he was completely sober (no drugs or alcohol) for one a full year previous to this trip (interferon-ribivirin treatment, nasty stuff). Swim felt such an awesome power on this trip but it became a horrible trip 24 hours later when he was still going so incredibly strong and coming down soooo slowly. SWIM had obligations on the third day to drive himself and friends back home for christmas break but had to forego plans because he was still way too up. Obviously it was really fading by the third day but still there.
What do you guys think? Is this maybe not DOC? I know DOB and DOI can last longer (up to 30 hours) but this was exceptionally intense and incredibly true LSD style visuals (not the same but just as incredible). Does anyone think it is possible for DOC to last that long (considering the very long break)? One more thing, when SWIM tripped he had was just off medications to treat liver problems which I know could cause a substance to break down slower but the treatment worked perfectly and his liver was supposedly 100%.

[Pinkavvy]

The leangth sounds more like DOI, but the experience like DOC. Perhaps swiy is just sensitive to DOx compounds. Swip has used, and seen others use, DOC many many times and have never seen it last more then 24 hours tops.

The only problem swip has with DOC is it's recent lack of availability. GRRR

[twincit44]

Yeah, that is exactly the problem. Swim has literally read every DOC trip report available (before and after experience) and swim could not find any that talked about DOC lasting any longer than a just a a few hours past 24. There was maybe a couple outliers (ppl with gigantic doses who had like 48 hours) but swim literally had 72 hours. Swim would really like to explore this compound again but feels this might be a mistake. swim is a full time student and if swim started as early as possible on friday he would still be going during classes on monday. Swim thinks maybe it was a one time thing, given the sobriety but probably should not take the chance.
Swim just feels so drawn back to this compound. Swim could late until summer but swim has this strange urge to go back to that DOC space immediately (much like the urge swim had after first LSD trip). It was soo beautiful, and soo much truth but it also had its moments of being fearful and working through it. It sounds like there is something abnormal about the effects lasting that long (very very light on the last day but still there)

[sweatloaf13]

Originally Posted by twincit44

The problem was SWIM tripped for 3 days. Literally, 3 days. Now, SWIM is 210 lbs but Swim should mention he was completely sober (no drugs or alcohol) for one a full year previous to this trip (interferon-ribivirin treatment, nasty stuff). Swim felt such an awesome power on this trip but it became a horrible trip 24 hours later when he was still going so incredibly strong and coming down soooo slowly. One more thing, when SWIM tripped he had was just off medications to treat liver problems which I know could cause a substance to break down slower but the treatment worked perfectly and his liver was supposedly 100%.

Maybe the interferon?That shit can be nasty fo sure. When Swim was on the treatment Swim I.M.'ed 15mg of 2CE(Not Swims 1st time)and 30minutes after had a seizure. Not a small one either. Hadn't happened before and hasn't since. Swim had missed his .5mg dose of Clonazapam the night before,but thats not uncommon for Swim either. I have no answer for you,am probably just raising another question,but figured I'd share. How'd the treatment go? Swims went great and now 'it'(Hep C)is almost undetectable with zero liver damage. Good thing Swim hates drinking! Good luck,wish I had my mitts on some...

[twincit44]

sweatloaf13: Swim felt embarressed mentioning specifically what treatment was for but yeah, it was hepatitis C for swim also. swim is glad you said you deal with it too cause it definitely is more common than people think. It was pretty amazing for swim. Swim has genometype II? Swim thinks, Swim cant remember the number genome type but it was the most resistant type to interferon treatment, like 40% effective. Swim was lucky in that it worked perfectly, completely clear of virus after 2 months but still forced to do a full year because of my bad genome type. But it stayed clear the whole time and now after treatment it still is clear.
And that is the funny thing about this is swim has always had problems with RC's lasting alot longer than for others. 2C-T-7 was always 14 hours. 2C-E about the same. Tryptamines even longer, sometimes lingering effects up to 24 hours. Swim was concerned liver was not breaking down drugs properly quit everything for that year. Finally came back when liver function was back to 100% and was given okay to drink alcohol moderately (of course doctor didnt say "go drink alcohol" but she said swims liver was like any 22 year olds).
When swim came back, he noticed a slightly shorter duration with phens but not much of a difference with tryps. Swim was thinking maybe taking a phen the week before could reduce his tolerance and shorten a DOC trip the next week-wishful thinking probably. Sorry about the long post and sorry to moderators that the first part of this post is off topic (personal medical stuff) but swim hopes maybe ppl will recognize this problem and maybe know whats going on. Swim feels pretty confident it is DOC but swim is open to ideas if you think something else.

[nanobrain]

i know of several cases where the duration of the initial DOC trip was stated to be well in the 48-72 hour range. individual metabolic idiosynchracies play a major factor.

p.s. phens are only marginally crosstolerant swith DOs

[trip.more]

Sounds like DOC to SWIM, if the duration is a problem swiy should lower the dosage.Swim found DOC to be active at 500mics, at 500mics-1mg the trip lasts 8-12 hours for swim.Also a benzo may help a lot on the towards the end when swiy gets tired.