Drug info - Psilocybin Mushrooms: Dry or Fresh Megathread

[raven3davis]

You need to eat a bigger weight. If they are wet, 90% is water, so you 30 grams wet = 3 grams dry approx. I think it could vary too, different strains may have different water contents. The effects are basically the same IMO, but wet takes longer to kick in, and sometimes I dont chew the shrooms up enough because they taste so bad. I think this may make me trip less hards because shrooms are really indigestable. This is what I think. I prefer to make tea out of wet shrooms, or just eat dry shrooms. Eating them dry is a lot easier than eating them wet. I do however also believe that wet are a little more potent. Maybe not enough to make a huge difference, but when drying, im sure they lose some potency.

[Phungushead]

Drying them really doesn't make that big a difference in potency if
they were dried correctly... or at least I don't think so, there is a
lot of disagreement over that though. IMO, they taste a lot
better when wet... also, I tend to be more active on fresh
shrooms. Dry ones have a tendency to make me feel really stoned
and not want to get up and do much... may be just a weird coincidence
though.

[turfshark_40]

Swimprefers dry, its a lot less bulk to take in. When you dry them they lose about 90% of their weight in water loss but lose only a negligible amount of potency. It seems mostly to be personal preference.

[highasakite]

i tried them wet for my first experience and had a really good one on 10 gs of wet columbians. good trip, dose was great for me as a first timer cos any more intense and i mite have freaked!

[Caliform]

Up to now, I have tried many variants of eating. I even had rotten
(everyone had their time of youthful stupidity, I never knew they lost
their potential) and it had a certain effect too, so I can mentally
discern between effects that occur.



Fresh mushrooms are a lot to eat, but easy to measure and I find them
not so bad to eat if you get used to it. It's a mould, sure, but for a
mould, it tastes pretty damn good. I guess it's a matter of opinion.

When I tried them dry, I found them totally gross. They smelt like a
gentlemen's toilet room where cleaning had been due for a month (not
like urine, but the... lingering smell of such places, I hope you know
what I mean) but eating less was quite nice. The effect, for me, was a
bit less intense. I am going to try fresh ones soon, the Cyanescens
variance, and see if it differs.



For those interested, rotten mushrooms give a slightly "stoned" high,
but have a lot more health risks than a normal joint. I wouldn't
recommend it. Good for me that I got away with little problems.

[sloppo]

SWIM finds fresh mushrooms to be much better and more potent but he cannot handle the taste. For some reason fresh mushrooms taste a lot stronger to SWIM than dried, so he generally will make tea with fresh and just chow down on dry.





Sloppo

[scientist101]

I enjoy fresh over dried as long as they are very fresh.

[OiledMandible]

I take dried over fresh whenever possible. It is easier to dose
with, and you dont have to eat as much. I love eating a few grams
of dried chip-like mushies.

[Dexy Mcfukfuk]

I have heard from various sources that the potency of mushrooms can vary based on whether they are moist or dry. What i have heard is that for some reason or another the chemical that is psychoactive is more present when the material is dried, while the toxic and unpleasant alkaloids are not. My experiances have re-enforced this statement, whenever i take dried mushrooms i tend to trip a lot harder then i do when they are wet. Plus dried ones are a whole of a lot easier ot eat then wet ones.





Are these statements true? It does not seem like it would make too much of a difference but who knows?

[draxon]

If mushrooms are dried correctly they retain more alkaloids than if they are left moist or wet, this may or may not be the potency difference .


i notice no potency difference between fresh picked mushrooms and correctly dried mushrooms of the same strain.

[tomuel]

I've got eight grams of fresh mushrooms. I'm assuming they're
average strenth. How many grams of dried mushrooms would
this be equivelant to? Also, how long will they stay without
rotting? I can't freeze them.

[Nature Boy]

If fresh mushrooms are 90% water (so I've heard), then that 8g will become only 0.8g if dried. They can rot within a few days so I suggest you either dry 'em up soon or just use them.

[Phungushead]

So, you don't know what kind they are? 8g fresh of cubensis is not
much at all, but that would be a fairly decent amount of say,
cyanescens or azurescens...

If you keep them in the fridge in a paper bag, they might stay fresh
for a up to a week, depending on when they were picked and what
kind they are. But like nbl said, if you can't use them soon dry them
up (throw them on a tray in front of a fan or something).

[armatitumor]

Yes, dried weight of mushrooms is about 10% of their fresh weight, but the dosage will still depend on the mushrooms' potency.

[Nature Boy]

There isn't much difference in effects from my experiences but dry shrooms are a lot easier to munch and they won't play any tricks with your stomach during the trip like the raw ones tend to do. Do note that when you dry shrooms, they lose a lot of weight because more than three-quarters of a fresh mushroom is simply vapour. Careful about the dosage too. One can eat, say 20g of shrooms as a fresh portion but you'd wanna keep your dosage very low grams-wise with the dry shrooms. 5g would be more than enough with most strains.

I'm not so sure about which is the quickest way to dry shrooms but you can either wrap them in newspaper and put them somewhere warm like a hot press, leave them under a fan for a few hours, or leave them under the rays of the sun if you have the weather for it.

Happy shrooming...

[Phungushead]

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Anyway, the quickest way to dry out fresh mushrooms would probably
be a normal food dehydrator with the heat element removed. Although
the easiest/cheapest would probably be to just put them in front of a
fan. You want to avoid using heat when drying them if possible, and if
you do use heat, don't overdo it.

And like NBL mentioned, they will lose a lot of weight when dried. So,
20g fresh will end up being around 2g when dried. Dry shrooms are
easier to dose accurately, that's the main advantage. Even though they
taste nastier dry.

[ramjet]

Few weeks back I put a batch of mushrooms from a grow kit in front of a fan for a couple of days and that dried them out good and proper. They're tiny though: they shrivelled to a fraction of their original size and have gone a strange bluish colour, is this normal?I'm looking forward to trying them out

[Phungushead]

Yep, totally normal. The bluing is due to the oxidation of psilocin, and
drying makes it stand out more.

[big-lester]

dried mushrooms tend to give a more "stony" feeling than fresh shrooms, I prefer dried above fresh because of the munching

[bcStoner420]

ive had some good hallucinations of as little as 1.5 g's dried of some really nice shrooms.

[m1ndeater]

Hey, in all swims reading about mushrooms swim has been a bit unclear about something. Does the actual psilocybin content per mushroom cap decrease, increase, or stay the same as the mushroom dries out?

swim understands that a fresh mushroom will have a greater mass due to having higher water content, and as it dries it becomes lighter. Therefore a drier mushroom will have higher psilocybin/gram ratio.

If swiy were to eat the same mushroom when it was fresh vs if you let it dry and then ate it, shouldn't it affect you in the same way?

So, if say a usual dose would be 2 dry mushrooms, swiy should also take 2 fresh mushrooms to feel the same trip?

Thanks for clearing this up, and if swim is mistaken, please highlight swims error in understanding how this works.

Cheers

[Alfa]

I think it's better to calculate in weight instead of in number of mushrooms.

There are many tryptamines in psilocybe mushrooms. Psilocybin is converted to psilocin by oxidation when these magic mushrooms are dried. The drying process will most likely affect other tryptamines as well. Therefore the effect is different. Overall a dried mushroom gives a more stoned and less energetic effect than a fresh mushroom.

Regarding potency; dried mushrooms are weaker. This also depends upon how they where dried and when the mushrooms where dried. (how fresh they where)

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[Demonslayer]

SWIM prefers his shroom dried and prepared as a tea. The aroma of shrooms is more distinct when they are dried so the tea smells more shroomy. SWIM also likes to crumble the shrooms so that he dosn't have to swallow down the tough noodle-like stems of Liberty caps. Often SWIM can't trip the same day that he picked, so drying is just plain practical.
SWIM has often tripped on both dried and fresh shrooms, but every trip is different and SWIM can't imagine how anyone can tell the potency of one batch of shrooms from another. Psychological factors like set and setting have more influence on the strength of the trip than the potency of the mushrooms. Tripping among non-shroomers tends to bring SWIMs trip down quite alot as the trip is suppressed, but tripping in a dark and quiet place seems to bring even low-dose trips to a stronger level.