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Old 19-02-2007, 11:51
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Resistance: a few suggestions so to keep our passion alive

I think more and more entheogenic plants are getting banned (ayahuasca, iboga, mimosa, pedro and salvia are on their way too...)

So here's a simple suggestion

let's all get cuttings of any interesting plants around (let's say at least the most well known psychedelics, excepting marijuana as it is not only illegal but also very easily recognizable by cops) and grow them at our home so that if they ever get all banned, we will still be able to run our own supply (plant exchanges and so instead of selling, collecting seeds and sending these for free to anyone requesting some)

Because if we don't do anything, within a few ten years the only remaining legal plants would be shitty stuff such as nutmeg, all our powerful allies (pedro, salvia...well the ones that really count) will have been broken down...in a few ten year, is nutmeg the frist stuff that psychonauts would think of when asked about entheogens?! I hope not.

I can understand why they are fighting against opium and coca, that's because they don't want cocaine, crack and heroine around and they think that's the only thing that such plants can possibly do...and I'm not trying to oppose myself to this (don't misunderstand me, attempted prohibition of coca leaf among andean countries where it is ritually used since centuries was absurd, I'm just saying that I CAN understand why they tried to do so and therefore I won't be debating it here)
...but there's no valuable reason for trying to break down plants such as salvia or iboga which have absolutely no abuse potential (nor in their countries of origin, nor in occidental societies) and were even proved to be helpful to individuals through personal healing and development. If they're not able to make any difference between toxicomany and ritual/spiritual/medical use, we can show them by setting up a resistance.

This is already going on in a few countries (seeds and cutting free exchanges, country wide) and I think that's our only defense against no-tolerance governments and therefore we should develop such an action as much as possible, meaning word-wide.
...but organizing such a resistance suppose that we would start right now, before plants are actually all outlawed as then it will be much more difficult to organize a country-sized underground plant cultivation if plants themselves are outlawed and therefore very difficult to get your hands on: as long as plants are still easily acquirable, we are easily able grow these extensively and share the collected seeds/cuttings for free with as much people as possible so plant supply would survive prohibition trough thousands of separate individuals.

I think that if stupid laws (such as ayahuasca ban) keep doing their dirty job, then this will soon be our only way to make our mutual passion survive it.

I guess that if everyone would have a few ayahuasca cuttings at home, there's nothing the law could do about it (no cop is ever going to recognize an ayahuasca plant), and that would also allow us to keep it very underground, from enthusiats to enthusiasts (who practically know what they're doing), keeping the most powerful plants away from irresponsible kids wanting to 'get high on something', and therefore away from public attention...until better days.

I think the first step, which we could readily achieve, would be to set up a cuttings & seeds exchange area, so we would soon all have our own specimens of each really valuable pant.

The second one, would be to write a lot about our personal growing experiences (as we are gaining some)...as growing guides on their own are not necessarily sufficient so one can successfully raise a plant after reading these (some plants can be quite difficult to raise out of their climate of origin, and therefore personal cultivation tricks & tips would be quite helpful)
Of course, ideally, growing guides would be in english language at first, but if we want a worldwide impact, then it would be an individual task for one to translate guides in his language origin, so he could also publish these on webforums from his own country.

What do you think of it? will we resist or will we just abandon the belief we placed in plants: most drug users just don't care about plants, but if we do, then we have to do something to save these from obscurantism.

What do you people think of it?
Are you already a growing head?
Would you be ineterested in setting up such an action in your country of origin (possibly extending it to neighbouring countries)?
Any suggestions about how to proceed, what to do, what not to do, how to keep it safe and discreet and so?

let's impose our freedom of belief!

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Re: Resistance: a few suggestions so to keep our passion alive

They could never get rid of DMT as it is present in so many ecosystems
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Re: Resistance: a few suggestions so to keep our passion alive

well in many part of the world, the only dmt you're gonna get your hands on is the shitty (toxic) phalaris that is more like 5-meo-dmt and bufotenine than dmt anyway...unless you order plants from distant countries, but well, they're already starting to ban many of these (where I leave they already banned all the most potent and least toxic ones you know, cause they understood these were the one of interest as these are the one people use the most).

Yeah, so they keep banning the most interesting entheogenic plants and the least toxic ones too, what I'm worrying about then is what alternatives would remain to us then?

Nutmeg and phalaris? this is quite a shame regarding ethnobotanical exploration that has to be based on valuable tools (sacred plants)...that would be kind of a defacement of the art.

and I guess growing is one of our best ways not to give enforcement agencies a free hand to mess around sacred plants when they don't understand anything about it.

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Re: Resistance: a few suggestions so to keep our passion alive

I completely agree with you on this one Genaro and Swim has already started a small garden, as well as collecting seeds for future use.

In Norway the import of any entheogen is already restricted. According to Norwegian law all dried herbs that are not registered as either LR)prescription medication, L) non-prescription medication or H) food product, is considered as L), and customs can demand a prescription for all medicine imported.

But living plants are not covered by this law and Swims garden is perfectly legal, even his peyote cuttings were not stopped by customs because he had provided the correct papers for them.

Swim also have a couple of friends who share his interest and they trade cuttings and seeds and harvest. the only problem is that due to the cold climate they have to use a lot of money on electricity for keeping the plants alive during most of the year.
But it seems to be worth it, they are all reading books and articles on gardening and discussing the info with each other.
It gives them a sense of purpose and gives a new dimension to their relationship with the plants. The dried herb they are smoking, drinking, extracting, etc. is no longer something of unknown origin that they bought from a shop in a foreign country, it's from the plants they have been caring for and watching grow for weeks, months or even years.

I think they are not the only ones, a lot of people are probably doing this or starting to do it these days.
Many fear that a ban on several herbs is to be expected soon and I am one of them. I'm actually surprised that it has been allowed to go on as long as it has, and when I see videos on youtube of complete morons messing around with Salvia and 5-meo-DMT I must confess I sometimes wish there were certain restrictions on buying these things.
16 year olds comparing Salvia to marihuana. People boiling brews containing all manner of things they didn't bother to research before they decided to mix it all together. Shops advertising Salvia and Ayahuasca as if they were mere exotic commodities.
Shops. Advertising. Entheogen.

But, to stick to the topic, there should be more international trading amongst those who grow these plants and I suspect it will come as soon as everyones gardens starts to get out of hand and they get an excess of cuttings and seeds.
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