Experiences - Opium and Poppy tea experiences

[catty]

Please post your experiences with opium here. If possible note way of use / route of administration, dose, onset, peak, duration and after effects.


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SWIM has only done opium a couple of times, and SWIM mostly smoked it on top of weed (opidope). Its an opiate so its a pain killer. Its very relaxing and SWIM didnt want to move very much.SWIM heard that unlike pot, there is no real loss of potency if you eat it or if you smoke it. So with pot you'd have to eat like 3 times the amount that you could get stoned on while smoking, but you could eat the same amount basically of opium as smoking it and get a similar high.


The only real side effect that SWIM knows of is addiction, so be careful about that.

How long does the experience last? Are there any after effects? Hangovers?

[catty]

SWIM'd say it lasted for me shorter than the high SWIM got from the pot. maybe an hour and a half total? SWIM didn't feel any after effects, but i think that all depends on how much you do, and how often you do it. obviously if you do it enough, you will get symptoms of withdrawl. but i dont think there are any mentionable after effects

SWIM has done opium about 30 times, SWIM doesn't like smoking it but catty is right, if you want to eat it, have at least 1/3 of a gram. it's a great drug IMO, makes you feel very calm and warm, and effects use to last around 8 hours, depending on the dose (SWIM likes the best to eat it, half a gram is a good dose).


the bad thing about it is nausea, be sure you have none or little food in your stomach, and that you don't move much, otherwise you will most probably vomit.


itmight also become veryaddictive, asopiates make you feel really well. don't do it more than once or twice a week if you can find it easily (here it's hard to find, but SWIM has been told it's widespread avaliable in spain, and as cheap as hashish).

[eluwei]

I just have one piece of advice for anyone who wants to try opium: don't smoke it before you have something important to do. From my experience, SWIM found that it's really hard to pay attention to things. You just space out, and have no clue what's going on (i.e. if a friend is talking to you). SWIM also experienced a LOT of stupid thoughts. Opium has become my favorite drug.

[wolfqaeaj]

There are only a few REAL dangers of opium.Getting fake opium is one, which can happen easely. Dragons Bloode inscence looks alot like Red Rock opium, but that can be solved easily by cutting the rock in half.If you find a whitish substance that can be broken away from the actual tar, youve found dragonsbloode. The other danger is having an allergic reaction, which has happened in a good number of people, which causes the mouth and throaght to be puffy.


other than that little boys and girls, its an overall good comfortable tingly feeling, and its really very fun.

[Lump]

Mmmm. Dreamy. Friend of mine had a ceramics studio and made us all clay opium bowls for chrissie pressies one year, copied from the traditional Chinese versions. Nobody ate much at the party. We were all lazing around on cushions and couches like some neo-Roman shindig. Smoking the first time? Sideways euphoria weird in slow-mo.

The warning label: Of course opium is addictive. Keep that sorta thing for blue moons and similar events, five or six times a year max. I've seen people take a hit like they were smoking weed, seen the distress in their face as they aren't sure whether to cough or puke and then do both. Some folks get tres itchy (more so than with other variations). 25-50 mgs of otc antihistimine helps. Smoke a little and then add to it if needed--it's like painting, adding color is easy, taking it away, difficult and unpleasant. Do not drive or operate machinery more complicated than a can opener.



Never adulterated either weed or opium with either, so I don't know about that, but I'd personally keep em separated. Both on their own are just dandy. Never myself, nor heard of anyone hallucinating, but the euphoric quality of opium can produce vivid (always pleasant in my xp) dreams, sometimes a sort of waking dream, esp if you're curled up with someone you feel fuzzy towards anyway.

[sands of time]

Opium is very magical in the feeling. You feel absolutely good all over, almost like being drunk without all the negitive effects, and you feel much better. You just get very relaxed and everything is peachy...

[markdahman]

What about sex and opium? haha Im sure this would be preety fuked up!

[Kemikaru_Tenshu]

^^^Opium contains morphine, and morphine oftencauses an inability to ejaculate in some men. Although this can be good for the girl as you can technically go forever, it can be frustrating for the guy. JMHO.





~KT

[betty_bupe]

Smoking opium is like being wrapped in a warm, fuzzy blanket whilst
floating in the amniotic fluid of your mother's womb. No cares,
worries..everything is grand. Be careful if you mix it with
alcohol- SWIM did, and SWIM could barely walk for hours.



SWIM has smoked and eaten it- smoking is definitely more fun and more of
a pleasurable, controlable buzz. Eating made me nauseous,
dizzy, and scared- mind you,SWIM did chow down on one whole gram (which SWIM
wouldn't advise to an opiate-naive person), and I was watching Blue
Velvet. Creepy. The comedown was rough- cold shivers,
nausea, dizziness.



Smoking in a regular weed pipe may or may not work for you, cuz the
opium melts and runs- it can plug your pipe up. Use
porcelain/clay bowls like the Portuguese used to, maybe augment it with
a bit of exotic tobacco. Even though SWIM don't smoke cigs, SWIM would
recommend a bit of tobacco, or possibly weed, in order to insure the
inflammation of the O.



Opium is a magical drug- check out the writings of Coleridge or
deQuincey...Just make sure you respect mother Opium, cuz if you don't,
she's gonna kick your ass....



Betty_Bupe

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[fletch]

SWIM has only ever smoked opium, never done it orally or anything. the aroma is absolutly the most pleasant swim has had the privledge of smelling. it is a wonderful drug if swim wishes to relax and ponder upon the small things in life. it makes you feel extremely lazy, ad warm. its kinda hard to explain for me, but SWIM loves opium.

[Axel]

Posting from a country (Iran,) which is to Opium what Jamaica is to Ganja , I can inform you that eating O is not the way to go, as within half an hour you will certainly look and feel like a person who has just shot up O's bastard; Heroin.


I must let you non-Asians who have little experience with smoking the stuff that using direct heat ( be it by a lighter or matches,) on your O will not give you the best possible effect.


Those of you who've seen the old Chinese dens probably know that when the O is put in bowl of a clay pipe, a piece of burning coal is placed near the Oto get it slowly boiling, or that the O isheated on a small aplliance which looks like a grill, and the subsequent fumes are inhaled through a pipe.


As with most other narcotics, O has more than 1 appearence and taste--in the Golden Crescent (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran,) it is very likely to be quite brown and as many put it "like chocolate," with a strong, bitter taste and fumes. In India I found the type which is dark red and has a very pleasant, fruity taste and smell.


It seems most of the O produced in the Golden Triangle (Burma, Thailand, Laos,) also fits the description of the former type.

[ironslave]

hmmmm oxycodone.. i already made a post bout this but what the hell..


Form: Pill. Percocet (5mg Each) Note: percocet contains acetaminophen in high doses.. 300-500 Mg based on the pill.. the reccomended daily maximum dose of this drug is 4000Mg 7000Mg is lethal.


i crushed these babies up and took em as is.. i didnt wanna go through the bullshit of extracting the oxycodone...


dose. 25Mg. (5 pills) (NOTE: most peeps say this is too much and 10-15 is best)


onset.. light numbness, light uphorea, false sense of security. no pain oviously and feeling of extreme well being


peak.. Waves of extreme drowsiness followed by waves of extreme alertness.. the opie itch, tingles still


durration: 3 hours


after effects, tired, light constipation, light itching. mind is disconectedEdited by: ironslave

[twintornado]

Ironslave i think youve got the wrong end of the stick, oxycodones not opium.



swim has taken opium by two methods either in a tea, only the once with
about a 1cm diameter ball of opium. very difficult to dissolve fully so
may of been too much. onset was fairly slow (difficult to be completely
accurate with this due to smoking opium and yabba as well). swim didn't
find a pronounced peak anywhere near as strong with smoking. duration
was around 8+ hrs, with a light headed detachedness for at least 24hrs.
quite itchy.

I wouldn't recommend this method except for therapeutic needs.



smoking on the other had produces a peak within 5mins, the dosage is
impossible to say although the total consumed during 8hrs was a disk
4mm thick and 4cm diameter again consumed with yabba to negate the
lethargy. some itchyness, but no nausea.

[pancho]

opium is one of my favorite, last time swim did this they used hot knives, relativly small amout since swim was with 1st time users, then swim got in afight right when swim was peaking and adrenaline blocked the feeling for a while. swim later chilled out and felt pretty good with some nice fruity and frosty buds. oh at it was some pretty good black tar opium. my sources said it came from a solider, swim is jus mad because im all out now, you would be amazed on how long an 1/8 of that lasted swim smokin it by themselves mostlyEdited by: pancho

[Beltane]

Yup. Doing the perfect amount of yayo can sometimes preclude
getting things done. A little less than the perfet amount is a
good todo list hustler.



- W

[kritikal]

My Opium experiences have been very recent, not many encounters but the encouters are all close together. The only other opiate i have had (that i am aware of anyway) is codeine, recreationally and for pain relief.


Day 1: I was at a pub having a few drinks with amate(W) and 2 chicks/mates,one of the chicks(P)would not shutup about Ice.Me and my matewanted some so bad but all we managed to get was some MDMA.


W's dadgrew poppies for the flowers so wesliced a few andlet them bleed.we downed the pillsat about 8, came up at about 8:30 and went to Kings Park we dropped P home and the other chick(R) was driving. We had a few drinks at the park and had a great time, R drove us back to W's house and we all stayed the night by this time me and W had pretty much come down.


We scraped all the poppies we let bleedand ended up with about 200mg of brownish, not fully dried Op. We smoked it up in a Bulb, W went first and immediately after the first toke, his face broke out in huge beads of sweat, he said he felt his whole face tingle, and i said dude ur sweating like a motherfucker! At first it made me scared to take my hitcoz i thought he had a bad reaction, but he ended up alright, I took my hit and immediately was relaxed,It tastes and smells very distinct but in a nice way.R took a hit and said she didnt really feel much. we smoked a bit more, i didnt get too much euphoria just very relaxed.


After this we smoked ashitload ofcones and joints and got real blazed, W had not stopped smoking since he got home, cone after cone after cone, and smoked about $50 in 2hour. We had an endless supply of weed so it was good. Pot seems to bring out the euphoria alot more. We went to sleep, i dozed off quite easily and W said he didnt get too much sleep.


Day 2: We went outside and got a few more of the poppies that we couldnt manage to see in the dark, and scraped and smoked em, very relaxing, I ate about 4 poppies worth of Op on the way home and felt very nice.


I had realised a few days back an oldbloke down the road was growing some so i snippedthe podsoff and bleeded them, I smoked the resultant with some weed and felt very trashed. You definently need some weed when smoking Op (Or taking other opiates),it just give you that extra "fuckedness", I layed back and eventually went to sleep.


Day 3: Consider the Pods did not bleed to well i chopped them up, put them in some just under boiling water added1tsp citric acid and shook the fuck out if it, I let sit for about 2 hours, filtered, then repeated the process. The result was300ml ofbrown liquid that tasted so fowl and bitter (from the acid) but seemed to wash down very easily with a sweet drink, it made me fell very sick.


I had scouted out another house with some poppies and managed to obtain those aswell, I bled these and got about 70mg of Op which i smoked when i felt the sickness, it immediately vanished.


The rest of the night i felt very good, This was the first time i had noticeable euphoria, and it felt very much like a dose of around 150mg-200mg of codeine. I had never had morphine(previous to day 1)but what i experienced was exact to codeine, just a little clearer. I've hadno weed all day butsmoked my last cone before i went to bed, this put me on my hole in a very good and different way to codeine, and usually i would need at leat5 cones to get stoned. I was in and out of sleep all night (at least i thought i was), and was in such a "happy place."


Day 4: No Op today, but the hangover i experienced from the night before was exactly like an alcohol hangover. Sickness in the stomach, A little dizzy, Lethargy, and a slight headache, At one point in the morning i was so close to vomiting but managed to hold on and the urge never came back. I wanted more Op but it didnt really bother me at all.


Every time i tried opium it just left me wanting more of the effects, I havent experienced the full effects of this magical plant and would like to in the near future, i can see the addiction potential for this drug as being very high, but considering that it comes from neighbours and friends, once i run out, i will have to wait a full year for my next hit.I know i will not become addicted and have the will power to not buy any Opiates, as Heroin is really the only one i could get on the streets.I never want to go down that road.

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[IHrtHalucingens]

i split and 8th with a friend and we went out seprerate ways, later i smoked it on its own, didnt do much for me made me a little tire nothin to noticable, i prefer to add a grma or so a opium to an 8th blunt and smoking that, i had a great high wiht more of a mellow mind set. My opinion is a bit wishy washy but id like ot try it again maybe smoke more and see how i feel, cua i hear good htings about it.!

[Dexhate]

Swim would like to know which is the 'classic' way to smoke it. Should be raw or cooked? Swim would get a lil' ball of O on a needle, pass the O ball on the flame for a couple of seconds till it gets smooth then stick on the hole of the pipe bowl, use a candel to light it up while inhaling..
Is it right?

[fnord]

when swim smokes opium he feels dumb/stupid, obviously an opiate high though

[tangent1]

Swim enjoys opium very much but finds it very hard to get hold of. Obviously swim found that a lot less is needed when waste is illiminated and was introduced to a nice method of smoking that kept waste to a minimum and allowed for a nice buzz from less than a gram. It is worth noting that although Swim isnt a stranger to opiates, he tries to keep his tollerence down by taking regular breaks from such substances.

The method:
SWIM Took two thin metal rods (the metal pieces from an umbrella are perfect) and a small bong/pipe.
Swim moulded a piece of opium around one end of one of the metal rods.
He then heated the other rod on a gas stove until it was red hot and, holding it very close the the end of the pipe, touched the opium and inhaled. All of the smoke produced went directly into the pipe and there was very little waste.

Swim found this to be the best method he has used for smoking. Apparantly this can be tricky to do alone if you dont have a table to sit at to rest your pipe on but a buddy could be inlisted to be a third hand.

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by kritikal

My Opium experiences have been very recent, not many encounters but the encouters are all close together. The only other opiate i have had (that i am aware of anyway) is codeine, recreationally and for pain relief.

Every time i tried opium it just left me wanting more of the effects, I havent experienced the full effects of this magical plant and would like to in the near future, i can see the addiction potential for this drug as being very high, but considering that it comes from neighbours and friends, once i run out, i will have to wait a full year for my next hit.I know i will not become addicted and have the will power to not buy any Opiates, as Heroin is really the only one i could get on the streets.I never want to go down that road.

When referring to drug use please use SWIM, read up on the rules. Self incrimination is not advised, particularly with Schedule 2 or Class A substances.

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[VincentVan]

Opium is hardly ever seen in Scandinavia, so SWIM´s fond memories of the use of this fascinating substance are tied to foreign trips to exotic locales.
India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, but specially the east coast of Africa.
In the port city of Mombasa, if the omanis have pretty much cornered the market for heroin, the commerce of opium is still firmly in the hands of the Goan community.
Many of them are also expert users and they taught to SWIM how to recognize the best quality according to the use you want to make of it.
The reddish,fresher, more fluid kind is the best to smoke, possibly pure in the characteristic pipe, or even mixed with tobacco and inhaled through a normal pipe,even though this way you will waste some of the juices; a rolled joint would keep going off and is not indicated.
The black ,putty like, gummy kind is suggested for swallowing once it has been fashioned into a small ball.
This has been SWIM´s favored method of intake. The effect last longer than if smoked and closely resemble that of a heroin shot. Some of SWIM´s mates used to roll a cigarette paper aroud the black ball before swallowing it so as to avoid the bitter taste.
This kind of opium is also the most readily found in India and Indonesia. Its quality varies according to different factors, prominent among which is the kind of poppy it comes from and the area of cultivation; still generally, the drier it is, the worst it will work. When it starts to crack and crumble it´s not good anymore and in India is sometimes used as an offer to the goddess Kali.
In Indonesia, some junkies, specially Aussies, use this kind of opium to inject it and even recomand the practice.
SWIM tried it a couple of times and finds it a most unpleasant endaviour, similar to mainlining morphine chl.
Short effect, needling sensation all over the body, and generally nothing to recomand the experience. Besides, to dissolve the drug into an injectable form may prove particularly tricky, requiring multiple heatings and filterings.
Opium is a very basic compound so you will need a strong acid to obtain the injectable salts ( often lime juice is used), with all the negative consequences for the veins, teeth, and assorted internal organs.
If you want to prick your veins then stick to heroin. In Mombasa, Nairobi , Dar es Salaam and a great deal of indian locations is available some of the best heroin the world has to offer; I never understood why some people want to waste some perfectly good opium using it for what it ´s not meant for.
By the way the "opium for injection" sold in northern India is just base morphine and really not worth the trouble, considering what can be found in the area.

SWIM tried more than once, to use opium as a kind of detoxing medicine, daily reducing his intake hoping for an easy way out of his addiction.
This method was quite fashionable ,for a period, among the motley community of western residents in the northern islands of Kenya in the mid eighties.
Let me tell you : it does´nt work.
It never did and it never will.
You need methadone to do that.
I´m a firm beliver in the idea that each substance must be used appropriately and according to its proprieties. Substances such as opium have been known for millennia (see the photos I posted in my photo-gallery) and I doubt that some junkie would suddenly find a new way of enjoyng them.

This post turned out much longer that I meant it to be , but I would like to close it by suggesting an excellent book on the subject.
It´s called : "Opium" by Martin Booth. Simon & Shuster Ldt publishing.
Great reading.

"To smoke opium is to get out of the train while it is still moving.
It is to concern oneself with something other than life or death".
(Jean Cocteau)

[Bajeda]

Swim's experiences are with purple opium from Pakistan. It is quite potent and very fun if used the right way.

Swim doesn't like smoking opium by itself as it is very overpowering and Swim isn't into narcotics especially much.

Swim DOES enjoy, however, mixing little bits of opium (half a gram to a gram) in with large joints of mellow marijuana, as it gives for a very euphoric and giddy high. Plus it tastes like purple flowers, making the taste very nice indeed when mixed with certain trees.