Experiences - Ambien (Zolpidem) Experiences

[primal440]

yesterday i took 4 10 mg pills of zolpidem and i didnt get any visuals that were on the other side of suggerstion or placebo, if they were for ral they were very mild and ordinary, not like melting or the typical wind effect, i just saw a leaf glowing red and shit. I also took 1 10mg diazepam and 1 2m clonazepam to see if it could help. That day i had also taken some more diazepam and tramadol. maybe the tramadol caused the no reaction or maybe my high tolerance to benzos crossed to zolpidem, making me inmune to its "psychedelic" effects. maybe i did something wrong, any suggestions, even on set and setting? now im going to take a few shots of cognac and whiskey to make this lost somewhate more enjoyable since all i got was past the dreamy state the typical strange thoughts. ive taken ambien before and i did have a great experience, i dont know why this happened, wether my toolerance for benzos or the tramadol...Edited by: primal440

[Mike177]

Ambien reacts very differently for each individual. In my experience some people will get some pretty good visuals and a nice body high. Now SWIM never got anything fun or recreational from Ambien, but many people would disagree.


It seems your either "get it" or don't.


Peace,


Mike

[primal440]

yeah i agredd with you until i remembered i had another experience with ambien in which i had taken 20 mg and forgot about it, then from nothing i got my visual field all cleared and dark/brighter can't really explain it, i had an euphoria so strong i was drooling over the counter in which i had entered i dont know why, mild viuals. strange, must be a diet of benzo and tramadol (and cannabis) which is doing this? or maybe sometimes ill get it and sometimes not.


anyways, i took 300 mg of dxm the other day and i got dxm wffects (1-2 plateau) mixed with serotonin syndrome (diarrhea), maybe trhe same diet is causing this?


and another question, i know this drug belongs to another forums but some of us do other drugs, so, ifyou had taken valium (which has a half life of 20-100 [36-200] hours) and some days later you took LSD, did you notice any negative effect on its potency?


thats all, thanks in advance...

[tryptamaster]

Swim took ambien in an attempt to sleep after an adderall filled day. Swim quickly realized that he would not sleep and things were gonna get weird. Basically, his vision was blurry and he was very off balance. Kinda like he was drunk and things were expanding and contracting quickly.

[ECU7]

SWiM has a prescription for Ambien. He tells me that he has had some pretty crazy experiences (such as dumping the contents of the kitchen cupboard out on the floor, falling down the stairs, etc) after taking just a normal (10mg) dose. These events happened after he got out of bed to go get a drink, etc. The events were generally not remembered by SWiM the next day...

He says the feeling overall similar to being intoxicated only without any type of hangover. He tells me that, at times, he took 20mg without much of a change in how he felt (compared to when he took just the 10mg.) He did find it extremely difficult to stay awake after the second 10mg tablet.

SWiM wants me to warn everyone (sure y'all already know this, but...) that it isn't a good idea to drive, or for that matter even get out of bed after taking Ambien. He found this out by experience.

Anyhow, he says he loves the Ambien and will continue to take it, as prescribed.

[bryanbabylon]

I am prescribed ambien cr because I have sleep problems. It works excellantly for sleep. When I have stayed awake on it, or taken over my prescribed dose, I have found:
I am rather delerious and stupid,
I have memory gaps,
Food tastes terrible,
I have double vision,
and I am more fucked up in retrospect than I realize at the time.

All in all I think ambien is a really lame high, and not worth my time when there are lots of better drugs out there.

Oh yeah: ambien + alcohol = almost guaranteed blackout / missing time.

[pharmapsyche]

Ambien is a very unpredictable drug, in my opinion. I've never seen two people exhibit the same effects of this non-benzo hypnotic. SWIM has tried little expierements with zolpidem, both alone and with a close friend. SWIM noted that several unique facts:


*previous exposure to zolpidem increased drug craving


*The dose-response curve is very high. There is a fine line between a dose that will give you a nice, stoning sedation and a dose that will cause you to have amnesia, incoordination and stupor.

[marleysherb]

Ambien is a truly addictive and dangerous drug. SWIM remembers he felt
like powder was rushing through his vains on this. He also remembers
taking a lesser dose and sleepwalking through school in his younger
years. This was the beginning of his beautiful friendship with the law.
I would recommend to any newbies to be in a safe place when using this
as a rec drug. It does react differently to different people, however
one does crave some gonja on it

[pharmapsyche]

Yeah, zolpidem and cannabis go GREAT together, in my opinion. They compliment each other really well. Ambien is an interesting drug. I wonder if they will ever take it off of the market. I sure can see the pharmaceutical company getting sued as a result of something zolpidem "made them do."

[pharmapsyche]

I'd love to try zopiclone so I could compare it with Ambien.


My friend use to be prescribed to Ambien and would hand them out graciously. I never saw any noticeable abuse potential. In fact, they just made me angry (and oddly enough, a little horny). A few months ago, I switched from trazodone (ZERO recreational value, didn't even knock me out after a 48-hour Adderall tweak) to Ambien, 10mg. After a few nights of taking the drug and smoking cannabis I started to appreciate the Ambien feel. The drug became highly recreational to me. Interesting that I didn't like it until I became more open-minded to the idea that it could, in fact, get me high. When my friend had them, I always assumed that they were no better then trazodone and had nothing to offer.

[GNCSUX]

Ambien hasnt really given me a high at all ... 10mg doesnt do anything for me and thats the recommend dose ... 20mg makes my eyes heavy thats about it ... never tryed the 30s or 40s might have to if you guys says it works

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by Mike177

Ambien reacts very differently for each individual. In my experience some people will get some pretty good visuals and a nice body high. Now SWIM never got anything fun or recreational from Ambien, but many people would disagree.


It seems your either "get it" or don't.

SWIM gets the body high (relaxation/euphoria), but little or nothing in the way of visuals. It's like a cross between benzos & an alcohol buzz to him, minus the nausea of course. His thought process relaxes and becomes more random, like the way it gets a few minutes before falling asleep. He finds Ambien to be very pleasant, with some potential for addiction (but not too bad). The tendency to fall asleep sort of makes it self-limiting in terms of dosing, and true addiction is unlikely with just a dose or two/day.

[Benzeneringz]

The purpose of this post is to describe the effects of zolpidem on drug-induced fatigue at a therapeutic dose. The ‘study’ was carried out on a subject who demonstrated signs of hypolocomotion following the period of stimulant abuse. The medication was administered on an empty stomach, and furthermore the rate of gastric emptying was significantly reduced which probably had an effect on time to tMax but not half-life.

(T-0 minutes) The time is 10:14 PM. I swallow one tablet with a small glass of tap water. Currently my state of mind is defiantly not at baseline, due to the disruption in my circadian rhythm. As of right now, I have been awake for 33 hours and 20 minutes. I have not eaten in the time I’ve been awake. This can surely be credited to the fact that I took 120 milligrams of Adderall when I first woke up yesterday along with an additional 150 milligrams spread throughout the day.

(T-10 minutes) At 10:24 I first begin to notice an effect. Although zolpidem doesn’t exhibit anxiolytic action at therapeutic (or even sub-thereputic doses) there is certainly the sense of one. This is probably due to enhanced GABAergic action in my hypothalamus. I would venture out on a limb and say that most of the tension that comes from using amphetamine and not sleeping is a result of norepinephrine overload.

(T-40 minutes) It’s hitting me from every direction all of a sudden and it’s totally unique. I’m seeing the letters on the screen quiver and there are patterns forming in the background of this document. It’s not so much a literal hallucination; rather, it’s like I am seeing these things but I can’t think fast enough to make sense of them. To sum it all up, ladies and gents I am dealing with some serious drug-induced confusion at this present moment in time. I would probably cause a disaster if I was behind the wheel of a car right now. It may sound like I’m over exxadurating the noted effects but I want to make it clear that I am indeed dazed and confused after swallowing a 10 milligram tablet of zolpidem.

CONCLUSION: Zolpidem is a successful counter-measure to drug-induced fatigue but facilitated hypolocomotion. There was a moderate effect on mood and an extreme effect on cognition. Drowsiness was not observed to be a significant effect of zolpidem despite the fact that it’s marketed as a sedative-hypnotic. Visual disturbances were noted and can probably be attributed to the inhibitory effect that zolpidem has on neuronal charge potential but this cannot be assured since there is no scientific proof. Basically folks, Ambien is a very unique pharmaceutical in the way that it exhibits selectivity to GABA-BZP receptors but lacks the classic benzodiazepine profile in terms of anxiolytic, sedative, and myorelaxant properties. There is a lot to discover about the GABA receptor complex which is comprised of several different subunits, with ligands displaying unique pharmacological activity.

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good, informative report

[Psych0naut]

It would be very helpful if SWIY noted the dose of Zolpidem used in the experiment.
SWIM has used Zolpidem once to go to sleep after using copious amounts of amphetamine.
He put 6 tablets of 10mg Zolpidem tartrate under his tung and waited for them to melt, the taste of them was really disgusting.
After 3 minutes they were disolved, and literally after 5 he was knocked out like he took a barbiturate.
They're very useful when one wants to sleep after using amphetamines, as they will garanteedly knock you out, though SWIM took pretty much.

[Benzeneringz]

It was a 10 mg tab.

[Nicaine]

Interesting report, thanks. As you noted, zolpidem tartrate is classified as a sedative-hypnotic and isn't a benzo, which explains the effects on mood and cognition (common, from SWIM's reading other reports of Ambien's effects on the forums... a few literally use it to get high). However, it typically induces sleep, or a state conducive to sleep... did SWIY end up going to bed soon after posting the report? Or did the lack of drowsiness persist and SWIY stay awake (and if so, how much longer)?

[Forthesevenlakes]

nice report!

swim has taken 10 mg zolpidem after a run of stimulant use. he had used about .5 g cocaine over the course of 3 hours. after about another hour, he ingested the zolpidem. however, it did not help him sleep. he felt sleepy, and laid down to go to bed, but sleep simply did not come. immediately. instead, he seemed to exist in a halfway point of consciousness in between sleep and wakefulness. his internal monologue became increasingly bizarre and nonsensical, and objects seemed to change as swiBenzene said, they were not true hallucinations, but swim could not make sense of them either. his vision would seem to zoom in and out at certain objects, like a clock on the wall. this persisted for a couple of hours, and swim ended up passing out about 3 hours after the initial ingestion of zolpidem. swim could recall very little of the experience when he awoke, and did not feel well-rested the next day.

swim finds that zaleplon (sonata) usually helps him sleep much more effectively, and without many of the weird side effects that zopiclone can induce.

[Benzeneringz]

In response to Nicaine- The evening I took the tablet, I actually ended up taking a total of 30 milligrams. This was accomplished with three doses of 10 milligram tablets between 10:45 PM and 2:30 AM. I felt more relaxed after taking the tabs but could not drift to sleep. I ended up staying awake all night that night, all day the next day and all that night. Finally, on the beginning of the third day after dosing I fell asleep after taking 100 milligrams doxylamine succinate. The Ambien probably could of gotten me to fall asleep but I would of needed a higher dosage.

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by btoddw2

whats it feel like on ambien?

Relaxed and at peace, thought process slows down as if one were hypnotized or in deep meditation. Inhibitions relax (not as much as with alcohol, just enough though). Sleep is available for the taking anytime during much of the high, which is another nice 'perk' of being on Ambien. Just lie down and sweetly drift off.

In most ways, ambien is the diametric opposite of amphetamines.

[Nicaine]

It's not even a benzo, and isn't supposed to have typical benzo-like properties at sedative-hypnotic doses. Yet after taking 5-15mg, SWIM feels more relaxed and mellow than he does on any other substance on the planet. It's a wonderful feeling, and the sleep that usually follows is just as sweet.

So what is it about Zolpidem, anyway? Usually SWIM goes to bed shortly after taking, but occasionally he'll stay up awhile and enjoy the head-space (no hallucinations or memory problems, just a super relaxed / "taking it easy" type feeling with a thought process that resembles the mind immediately prior to falling asleep). Thought slips into a smooth, mellow and well-oiled groove that's only slightly less than coherent and not at all amnesiac or prone to difficulties of any kind. There's an underlying pleasant, peaceful euphoria and feeling of happiness. All is right with the world.

Zolpidem is definitely SWIM's all-time favorite downer (excluding opiates, which aren't exactly 'downers' anyway). Anyone else appreciate it the way SWIM does?

[Nicaine]

The Ambien "Down Elevator" (sleep when desired, otherwise stay up and enjoy):

(1) Dose #1: 5mg rectal admin (pill dissolved in water)

(2) Dose #2: 5mg rectal admin (pill dissolved in water)

(3) Doses #3-#4: 10mg rectal admin split into two doses... use divided doses to continue enjoying the inner peace and bliss for awhile, until you must lie down and finally close your eyes and drift off to a gentle sleep.

SWIM's on his last legs... not enough going on here on drugs-forum to keep him awake, so it's dose #4, one final attempt at scaring up some interest and then off to bed.

[jdrug]

Originally Posted by Nicaine

(1) Dose #1: 5mg rectal admin (pill dissolved in water)

(2) Dose #2: 5mg rectal admin (pill dissolved in water)

(3) Doses #3-#4: 10mg rectal admin split into two doses... use divided doses to continue enjoying the inner peace and bliss for awhile, until you must lie down and finally close your eyes and drift off to a gentle sleep.

SWIM's on his last legs... not enough going on here on drugs-forum to keep him awake, so it's dose #4, one final attempt at scaring up some interest and then off to bed.

Any thoughts on how much time should elapse between doses?

Also, how does this route/recipe compare the other suggestio later in this thread [post #8] (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...&postcount=8)?

Thanks.

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by jdrug

Any thoughts on how much time should elapse between doses?

In order to do what... maintain a certain buzz?

The half life of zolpidem is around 2.5 hours (give or take an hour or two), so if someone wanted to maintain a certain level of effects they would need to re-dose about that often. Taking it more often would add to the effects, less often would result in a diminishment of effects between doses.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

Gah, swim had a bad experience with ambien. made him think the walls were ooozing blood.

[Nicaine]

Ambien is quite seriously one of SWIM's favorite highs at this point... easily in the top three. The strange thing is it's never given him a single hallucination, delusion, blackout, sleepwalking incident or other negative issue. They feel to him like "inner peace pills" in that he gets a euphoric relaxation along with the complete absence of "have-to's" and "shoulds," i.e. compulsions and inhibitions. This is really sort of what regular benzos are supposed to do, but they don't do it for SWIM.

If he gets totally "wasted" on Ambien he'll fall asleep, but the moments before that happens are really pleasant... it never becomes a dysphoric experience in any way.

Needless to say SWIM is at risk of addiction, although he's not really there yet (20-30mg/day max, more often 10 or 20mg/day). He's built up a slight tolerance, so if he wants to sleep at least 15mg is required, possibly more. What he has to do is really make an effort not to ever take it during the day, (unless he wants to just give up & let himself run out, then stay up multiple days/nights trying to get tired enough to sleep).