Why does marijuana do this to SWIM

[Orchid_Suspiria]

When SWIM was much younger he highly enjoyed the euphoria created by marijuana but in the past few years it is much different.Marijuana makes SWIM uncomfortable and makes him think depressing or highly disturbing thoughts and makes him crave more opiates to calm these thoughts.Later on when the weed starts to wear off but the buzz is still there SWIM still enjoys it but the paranoia,depression,feelings of discomfort,and anxiety are hardly worth it.SWIM had no idea marijuana could make one anxious.Is SWIM a unique case or does it do this to anyone else?

[snapper]

SWIM has found that occasional use without a tolerance causes these sorts of effects. There are also many people out there that hate the stuff for precisely this reason. try smoking less - it might just be too strong.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

SWIM has started doing this,the other day he only took one bowl hit and his friend had a quarter.His friend kind of gave him puzzled looks when he was offered the bowl and turned it down.And just that small bit made SWIM sort of want to just take a long hot shower and lay down in bed and try to escape the "hopelesness of life".It's hard for SWIM to say if he likes marijuana or hates it.The effects are often a mixed bag.

[Nature Boy]

The psychoactive effects of marijuana are highly subjective, therefore one should be in the right mindset when smoking the stuff. Sometimes when SWIM smokes alone at night, he slips into serious thoughts, perhaps thoughts that he may have been ignoring. One might consider these "paranoid" thoughts, another might consider it therapeutic thinking. It's purely in the eye of the beholder.

Perhaps SWIY should change his marijuana smoking habits. Maybe smoke less, smoke in different places (out in the open is always fun) or find new people to smoke with. Marijuana is as versatile a drug SWIM knows.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Thats the thing,these paranoid and depressive thoughts can at times be beautiful for SWIM.SWIM remembers laying in bed nodding off after smoking a few bowls and having beautiful closed eye visuals of geometric swastikas of light spinning like the sun up to Lord Shiva and reallizing that SWIMS death and the death of the universe are just change and not to be feared.

[Alicia]

Just go with the flow, the more you notice these bad effects the more you will react to them. like placing a magnifying glass on already worried or anxious mind. change something to your setting.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Originally Posted by Alicia

Just go with the flow, the more you notice these bad effects the more you will react to them. like placing a magnifying glass on already worried or anxious mind. change something to your setting.

SWIM has found this works very well,and as I was trying to point out the negative effects are sometimes teachers in disguise.SWIM has found playing music he enjoys sometimes makes the experience more positive.

[Solidly-here]

Orchid isn't having as much Fun any longer: "Marijuana makes SWIM uncomfortable and makes him think depressing or highly disturbing thoughts and makes him crave more opiates to calm these thoughts... the [1] paranoia, [2] depression, [3] feelings of discomfort,and [4] anxiety are hardly worth it. SWIM had no idea marijuana could make one anxious."

Then: "the other day he only took one bowl hit and his friend had a quarter. His friend kind of gave him puzzled looks when he was offered the bowl and turned it down. And just that small bit made SWIM sort of want to just take a long hot shower and lay down in bed and try to escape the "hopelessness of life". It's hard for SWIM to say if he likes marijuana or hates it."

If I were feeling like this with Pot, I would NOT be smoking any.
Pot is expensive.
Swim pays-out most of his Entertainment $$ on getting High.
What kind of Entertainment is getting Depressed?
How much Fun is Paranoia? or Anxiety? or even Discomfort?

When Swim gets anywhere near this Stage, he takes a LONG Pot vacation.
Then he gets to do Fun things with his money.
And stop feeling worse when he gets High.

Certainly it is your Life ... and your money.
You can do whatever you want.
But, if you feel like this, then you know you are making yourself feel like this.
Good luck.

[snapper]

SWIM cant help but agree with SWI-Solidly Here. For some people, pot just sucks. SWIM knows lots of people who find it unpleasant even after trying it numerous times in their lives. In contrast, SWIM can chain smoke the stuff with no difference in thought pattern from the norm. Certainly not paranoia, depressive thoughts (at least no worse than usual) or bad feelings. Everyone's biohemistry is different, however.
Another thing to note is that cannabis is very much a psychedelic, and therefore will amplify moods rather than suppress them. So it is likely that there are problems in SWIY's life which is at least in part fueling the bad feelings. Pot is certainly a poor choice to escape life's problems since more often than not it causes people to obsess on them more. SWIM uses this property to think about and work through SWIM's problems, but for others weed just magnifies all of life's woes and makes things worse. A good rule of thumb is not to use substances to escape from life's problems, and if so cannabis and psychedelics are bad choices.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

I know it doesn't sound fun but SWIM still finds some fun in weed especially in social settings,it makes conversation and relating to other human beings far more interesting.However SWIM rarely spends money on the stuff and only smokes it when his friends have it.

[Solidly-here]

Orchid says: "I know it doesn't sound fun but SWIM still finds some fun in weed especially in social settings, it makes conversation and relating to other human beings far more interesting."

OK, then smoke your heart out.
Do what you want to do.
And, good luck with your Pot-caused Depression, etc.

[Zombie_Terri_Schaivo]

SWIM has gotten that once on the rare occaision that he got "too high"
But mostly SWIm just REALLY enjoys smoking weed, it's pretty much the most fun thing ever for SWIM.

[Spare Chaynge]

to bad swim says that pot is so avaliable while other intoxicants are not

[flayer]

Swim smoked alot of pot a couple of months ago, But when swim tried some really strong shit swim fell in a psycosis(swim thinks/hopes).
Swims chest suddently exploded, swim felt like dying and was out for several minutes.. Swim Belives it was due he was on a SSNRI called Efexor at the same time that would Increase the anxiety feeling.,

But it's true what the others say.. it's a mindset, Take a break wait a couple of months maybe then swiy have a fine high

[bcubed]

SWIM find MJ--on occasion--VERY unpleasant and has no desire to use again.
Most recent: SWIM was playing in a quasi-legal poker game in a guy's basement (didn't know anyone) when a pipe of MJ was brought out and offered to him. SWIM takes one hit, passes, and takes one more.

Soon, SWIM is WAY too wasted to play poker. He just folds every hand and, as the effects grow, he leaves the table in the small blind (players never do this, BTW). SWIM had won a bit of money and, as he's waiting to be paid, becomes CONVINCED that he was deliberately drugged so that they could rob him (even though part of his brain is saying that's highly unlikely as everyone smoked the same bud). He can't understand why no-one's commenting on his condition, and that makes him MORE suspicious.

SWIM does not want to drive (he got that right) but becomes convinced that, if he admits to being too baked to drive, that they'll rob him for sure and (why?) rape him. On the way home (like 3 hrs) every car that's in his rear view is a Crown Vic, and every trucker is on the CB, alerting the police.

SWIM refuses to ever smoke again unless he has like 4+hrs to come down before re-entering the "real world." Interestingly, SWIM finds Salvia (with careful attention to dose) gives him a pleasant "stoned" sensation and, even at higher doses, doesn't give him that type of paranoia. SWIM enjoys Sally fairly frequently, but you'd have to pay him $$$ to smoke MJ on a daily basis.

Incidentally, SWIM did enough MJ as a youngster to know what he was given WAS pot, and has had enough similar experiences to know that this happens to him from time to time.

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[fromthestars]

Originally Posted by bcubed

SWIM find MJ--on occasion--VERY unpleasant and has no desire to use again.
Most recent: SWIM was playing in a quasi-legal poker game in a guy's basement (didn't know anyone) when a pipe of MJ was brought out and offered to him. SWIM takes one hit, passes, and takes one more.

Soon, SWIM is WAY too wasted to play poker. He just folds every hand and, as the effects grow, he leaves the table in the small blind (players never do this, BTW). SWIM had won a bit of money and, as he's waiting to be paid, becomes CONVINCED that he was deliberately drugged so that they could rob him (even though part of his brain is saying that's highly unlikely as everyone smoked the same bud). He can't understand why no-one's commenting on his condition, and that makes him MORE suspicious.

SWIM does not want to drive (he got that right) but becomes convinced that, if he admits to being too baked to drive, that they'll rob him for sure and (why?) rape him. On the way home (like 3 hrs) every car that's in his rear view is a Crown Vic, and every trucker is on the CB, alerting the police.

SWIM refuses to ever smoke again unless he has like 4+hrs to come down before re-entering the "real world." Interestingly, SWIM finds Salvia (with careful attention to dose) gives him a pleasant "stoned" sensation and, even at higher doses, doesn't give him that type of paranoia. SWIM enjoys Sally fairly frequently, but you'd have to pay him $$$ to smoke MJ on a daily basis.

Incidentally, SWIM did enough MJ as a youngster to know what he was given WAS pot, and has had enough similar experiences to know that this happens to him from time to time.

Man seriously, in all honesty and with no disrespect to you in anyway..when I read that post, seriously Im not sure why but it was probably the funniest thing I had heard in a good while, I was even thinking to myself shit, I should save this as a text file and show my friends..lol, im not even sure why. just has that real ring of hilarity to it.

Myself, ive actually smoked pot daily from day 1. I was 17 when I tried it, and have burned daily from day 1. At this point, even though I recognize it is abuse, It does not depress me.lol. I tend to smoke bong hits all day, probably about a quarter a week but who knows maybe its even more, i buy by the half q. I actually smoke when i get up (even at 5:30 am for work), when i get home, throughout the evening and always before bed.

[fly-high]

lately swim doesnt enjoy being high anymore. goin into stores, parties, or anything else that i think others arent high makes swim extremely paranoid. also swim cant do much wen high now. just sit there and think. is it because swim isnt a child anymore?

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by fly-high

lately swim doesnt enjoy being high anymore. goin into stores, parties, or anything else that i think others arent high makes swim extremely paranoid. also swim cant do much wen high now. just sit there and think. is it because swim isnt a child anymore?

No, but maybe in someways back when swiy was smoking it was different perhaps. Maybe swiy has things troubling them that they do not reliese the high instead it helps them focus on there issues rather then going with the flow. leave issues outside when swiy smokes weed else they just play on your mind when your altered.

[DoomFarmer]

Swim battled with depression for a period of his life, and during such a time marijuana almost always made him feel even worse. To reiterate what many others have said, the effects of Marijuana are going to be considerably different depending on your mindset before smoking. Swim always feels best smoking with his close friends, and generally gets paranoid if he's with a group of people he doesn't know or doesn't know well (he prefers cola in such a situation).

[AntiAimer]

Smurfs high has changed alot over time, so don't think it's just you. For the worse? Eh somewhat, but not really, Smurf still enjoys it just as much.

[beentheredonethatagain]

I am lucky , California makes it easy and legal to obtain very high grade pot for medical reasons. We I smoke that kind bud I feel nice, but if I smoke that other comerical weed I too get to feeling kinda bad. I only smoke a couple of hits of the dank and I am dumb for a while. We are getting older and maybe the pot is opening up thoughts of " maybe I should be doing something more useful with my life"

[somebodytosnuff]

wow..swim's glad he doesn't get this...phew; however, back in the day day, he experienced something weird and similar to bc's post...when swim smoked some insane black looking cannabis when he first started smoking...on a very very low tolerance and began to formulate mischievous unsettling thoughts about what his friends really invited him over for...to get him high and secretly record his guitar licks and songs and re-make them and copyright them without his permission, then hurt swim and steal all of his equipment, thats why they offered to carry it up from swim's car...and when they offered, swim said 'NO!!!' and his friends looked at him very perplexed...so swim carried his very very large amp and guitar at the same time up a flight of stairs and was sooo anxious with thoughts flying crazily and being worried about what his friends would do to him when he got to the top of the stairs...thats what swim REALLY thought and was really scared...racing heart and all lol.

He knew these were his friends, but was still incredibly scared. When the bud wore off he realized how crazy he was to think such. Thats one of the only weird experiences swim has taken from cannabis. Swim did used to get closed eye visuals of gross demonic images when he was a lightweight and blazed way too much...Swim doesn't feel anything from his daily use other than a regular buzz now. If swim begins smoking too much, he takes a monthly break; great euphoria and CEVs return. Swim wonders why high tolerance smokers don't take breaks..psychological pull? Seems like a waste of money 2 swim.

[frenchywife]

SWIM has always been a pothead, however a few years ago, SWIM started having extremely bad experiences, such as panic attacks and for no apparent reason. SWIM has never had disturbing thoughts, just felt way too high, extremely dizzy and disoriented, heart racing and just a horrible feeling. One time, it was so bad that SWIM went to the emergency room, fearing a heart attack, yet once in the waiting room, the "attack" subsided and the negative effects wore off and SWIM was fine, so left without seeing a doctor.

SWIM decided to take a break from smoking, and later read an article that the local marijuana was found to have traces of gasoline and paint thinner to help disguise the scent in transportation. However, SWIM has smoked since and for the most part has felt fine, but on occassion has felt too high (guess SWIM has a low tolerance) and the negative effects have come back, but thankfully, not as extreme and SWIM was able to keep it together. Anyone else have a similar experience or has suffered from a panic attack?