Hydrocodone (vicodin/lortab) CWE questions and answers

[paulcook]

SWIM's been doing his resarch and has sucessfully performed a cold water extraction on some hydrocodone/APAP pills his dentist gave him. As the clear liquid sits, the moment of truth has come. . . the question: To keep the hyrocodone sulfate in aquesus form or to allow it to evaporate and scrape the crystals? From what SWIM has read, the crystals are no good for insuffilation. () But can this be true??? Would SWIM be better off to eat the crystals, drink the aqueus form, or insuffilate the crystals? Unfortunately, SWIM has a high tollerance these days and is looking for that rush. SWIM thinks oxy would be soooooo much better.

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strong first post, thanks for paying attention to the rules!

[Forthesevenlakes]

SWIM finds that drinking the aqueous hydrocodone works well. The taste is a bit gross and bitter, but it can easily be consumed quickly and with some regular water to wash it down, SWIY will be just fine. The fact that it is in solution means that it will absorb faster and more effectively through the stomach and intestine lining. The crystals always seemed to SWIM to be an unneccesary step that wouldnt absorb as well. SWIM doesnt see any advantage of getting the crystals, but maybe other people have different opinions. He doesnt think insufflating them would be very pleasant, either...just a hunch.


Also thanks for using a descriptive topic heading and using "SWIM" in swiy's post! Gotta love when people actually take time to read the rules!

[paulcook]

Thanks alot for your reply SWIForthesevenlakes. . . SWIM'S gonna try it out tonight. He'll let you know how it goes. He's gonna eat some grapefruit and drink some of the juice to potentiate the opiates. Thanks again for your prompt reply! We look forward to talking with you all further. ~Peace.

[Forthesevenlakes]

Anytime. Let us know the dosage SWIY uses, too. Probably higher than a newbie to opiates would use (since SWIY said he had a tolerance), but SWIM is curious.

[Sklander]

When SWIM does a CWE on Loratabs or Vics he lets his dose sit in the freezer for a few minutes or until a noticeably sludge is formed on the bottom. SWIM then uses a syringe (without the needle) and draws up the liquid floating on top of the glass. This is where your hydrocodone is. SWIM HIGHLY recommends injecting this solution of water into your rectum. Beats drinking it and you get more bang for your buck.

Good luck!

[paulcook]

SWIM's been using vicodin dayly as presribed (well, double dose) for pain due to wisdom tooth extraction. Hurts like a motherfu***r if you're wondering. . . As well as Oxycontin insuffilated (80mill during a night of partying) as often as he can get his hands on them (once a week?). So SWIM decided to try the extraction with 10- 5/500 hydrocodone/apap pills he had laying around. Him and his buddy are gonna split this in about 1 1/2 hours from now.
Oh and about the bum-shot. . . one just lets the liquid sit in ones arse untill it is absorbed? Does one feel rather full after that? What dosage would one use SWISklander??

[Sklander]

SWIYpaulcook: SWIM uses 20 - 40MG of hydrocodone when shooting it into his bum. Last night SWIM injected 60MG hydrocodone into his bum and nodded all night.

SWIIM is on bars right now, so he thinks he is going to shoot a few more bars into this poop shoot and chill out.

MAKE SURE YOU DO A CWE on the vics or loratabs because the APAP is very bad for your liver.

[Sklander]

SWIM just used the remaining four loratabs that he had and did a CWE. He proceded to inject the layer ontop into his ass and is feeling wonderful right now. SWIM is gonna try and get a few shots of liquor and thinks he'll be just right for the night, however, this isn't recommended.

DO NOT MIX BENZO's OR OPIATES WITH ALCOHOL.

[paulcook]

Nice man! SWIM and his friend took 1 Tagamet one hour prior to drinking fresh-squeezed grapefruit juice followed by a Tums to lower his stomache's acidity level. Thirty minutes later they drank the nasty concoction. Fourty five minutes later he is feelin pretty damn good and went to look for a movie at the video store. Ended up with TRON so he must be pretty high. But not high enough. So he and his buddy took 3 more 5/500 Vicodine. We'll see what happens now! He'd like to be nodding tonight, but he'll have to wait and see.

[EuPhOrIa89]

Hey All! Swim is a newbie of this CWE. Swim recently got a prescrip of vics(5/500) (200ct) and are taking 6 a day for pain. 3 in the morning 3 at night. Swim also has some Somas(200ct) as well. swim has been taking those at night with the Vics.(Fun combo) Swim has a low tolerance and gets that small rush and a slight euphoria and makes all the small things that much better. But Swim wants to take some more Vics but is afraid of the APAP. So Swims question is this the right way of CWE.........

1)Take (x)number of pills....maybe 5 or 6,7,8??
2) Crush them up into a powder
3) add them to warm water since they dissolve faster?
4) then put them in refrig or freezer to cool it down.....stiring occasionally
5) Drain the milky liquid into a coffe filter that goes into a cup
6) drink the liquid that is in the cup

Any tips would be greatly appreciated...Remember I'm a NB....and I looked in the SE and never really found directions on how to do this....found it for codeine but not Vics(same method?) Thanks and PEACE!

[DrMuffy]

First of all, if the forum search engine doesnt help, just use google, instant instructions and helpful hints on CWE's are everywhere. The same CWE methods are used for both codiene and hydrocodone, and these instructions have been modified to to fit hyrdrocodone's dosage and stuff. But anyhow here is the method SWIdr uses, its really easy, and gets pretty good results.

1. Obtain a quantity of tablets containing codeine (oxycodone, hydrocodone, etc). Measure out your desired amount of hydrocodone (i.e.. 30 mg = 6 tablets* 5mg/tablet). You may want to add 2 extra tablets as it is quite likely you will lose some hydrocodone in the procedure. As you get
more experience with the procedure you will be able to get
approx. 95% of the hydrocodone extracted.

2. Measure out some nice hot water, use approx. 40ml / 20 tablets
or more if needed. I would suggest you don't go over 50ml for 20
tablets. I don't know if the use of boiling water would destroy
any of the hydrocodone but your best bet is not to use it. Use hot
water but not boiling. Make sure the tablets dissolve completely.
Some dissolve on contact with water while others need some help
dissolving by crushing them. Note : not all of the tablet will
dissolve, there are water-insoluble fillers in the tablet and not
all of the A/A will dissolve either(which is what we want).

3. Place the solution in a cold bath, I just use some ice cubes
in a container of water. Stir the mixture occasionally until the
solution drops to about 15C or lower. You won't need a
thermometer to measure the temperature, just make sure it's
"cold". This will take about 30 min. If you wish to speed this
up, you can use less water to dissolve the tablets, and add ice
chips to cool the mixture faster. Just make sure you don't add
so much ice that you drastically increase the volume of the mixture.

4. Filter the solution using whatever you have. Coffee filters
work well, but lab filters work the best. Just make sure you
don't end up with obvious solids in the filtered solution. This
will take about 1 hr. You may also want to rinse the solids left
over in the filter with some ice-water to extract any remaining
hydrocodone.

[Psych0naut]

SWIM made a pictorial about performing a CWE on codeine pills, which will work with other opiate pills as well, have a look here.

[EuPhOrIa89]

Well Swim just did the CWE thanks to help. Swim thinks it might have worked good this time. Swim is now drinking the liquid mixed with oj. Is this stuff suposed to be bitter? Well a big thanks to everyone for the help. Swim will now wait to see how it turns out. PEACE

[Forthesevenlakes]

The end solution should be bitter, but not too bitter. SWIM actually thinks he tastes a bit of sweetness in the product of a CWE, but then he also tastes something sweet when he chews most opiate pills.

SWIY should have been left with a bitter tasting powder at the end too, much more bitter than the liquid. That's the APAP. I'm probably going to merge this thread to another CWE thread, to keep things streamlined in this here lil' forum.