Speed recipe?

[DrBallard]

Hey
Swim's been wondering what is contained in the pills we call "speed" in canada and which are very popular in raves, as well as E.
Many recipes were found on the net but they pretty much all result in Meth, not amphetamines.
I know these pills are not only adderall... Anyone got a clue?

[mr.mackey]

SWIY is right on the money with the meth...other than that, its probably shit like caffeine but SWIM's just guessing there

[izzy31]

Methamphetamine is much easier to make than amphetamine, which requires an additional procedure that involves meth itself - its pointless to waste time and effort to make something weaker when the demand of supply is as potent and pure as can be -

[DrBallard]

Ahhh really... Swim thought it was easier to extract amphetamines than meth, due to its lower potency. Well, hey, thanks a lot!
And hum... It is right to suppose a large part of street called "speed" in canada is basically meth cut with wake ups rather than pure amphetamines?

[DrBallard]

SWIM's found even more confusing sources...

"Montreal police say crystal meth is not a problem in this city. Police spokesperson Melissa Carroll told Hour the department seized "163 pills" in 2004. "And that's nothing," Carroll says. "[In contrast] we seized 1,352 pills of speed in 2004 and [fewer than] 2,000 of ecstasy."

What contains those "speed" pills if it's not meth??!!

[dikki]

Could be ephedrine and/or caffeine.

[BeetleJuice]

or just the news screwing up the information?

[DrBallard]

Well in Montreal we never hear of Meth... unlike on the west coast of Canada. I guess it would most likely that people actualy do meth thinking they are doing amphetamines. I really doubt those speeds only contain caffeine/ephedrine...
By the way, what's the difference between Ephedrine and Pseudoephedrine?
SWIM's has some Contact in canada with 120mg per pill of pseudoephedrine...

[Darksanity]

Originally Posted by DrBallard

By the way, what's the difference between Ephedrine and Pseudoephedrine?
SWIM's has some Contact in canada with 120mg per pill of pseudoephedrine...

Pseudoephedrine is the "inactive" form of Ephedrine. It's used as nasal decongestant (such as Sudafed).

[DrBallard]

Damn I love you. All the answers I've been looking for. Although I must admit that meth contained in speed pills is pretty different that the crystal meth we see on the west coast.. anyway. If SWIM wants to manufacture meth, he can use either pseudoephedrine or ephedrine, it won't change anything during the process?

[Darksanity]

I live Quebec, Canada, and most speeds are methamphetamine tablets. While sometime there are crappy ones probably containning shit like caffeine, ephedrine, ancetaminophen, with a tiny amount of methamphetamine.

I dont think there a lot of amphetamine sulphate on the "modern street" Meth is more potent, easier to make, and cheaper.