Drug info - What are the effects of Tobacco?

[Thirdedge]

Swim does not smoke Tobacco and is interested in what effects a Tobacco smoker gets from having a smoke. Swim tried several times many years ago as a teenager and remembers a headrush with mild nausea, but their must be more to it than that for it to be so popular.
Erowid states effects classification as Stimulant, yet some claim it to be relaxing. How would smokers describe the effects of having a smoke?
Does it keep you awake, help you sleep, calm you, motivate you or give you a euphoria?

[boylizard]

nicotine is indeed a stimulant, however, the calming effect some note is because the nicotine intake from a cigarette alleviates the withdrawal symptoms (anxiety).
swim has gotten everything from headrushes to complete body highs - even with tolerance - swim smoked some cigarette tobacco from a pipe, hit it hard and long, and hold it long.

[Buddah]

Do not start smoking tobacoco! Yea, the first couple of times it gives you a head rush. After that there is nothing Belive me im one of a few that dont smoke in my little group of friends. All cigerettes to is kill you more... you dont really get a high after the first times then you get addicted... SMOKE BUD,Salvia, hell even CRACK just not cigs......

[boylizard]

swim doesnt suggest smoking cigarettes at all, but if done right tobacco can provide a great occasional recreational buzz.

[Thirdedge]

Swim already clearly understands Tobacco can be harmfull and addictive, not recomended etc.
He is specificly trying to understand the 'Psychoactive Effects' that a smoker recieves from smoking, IE: A Tobacco 'Trip Report' - in what ways does the user feel diffrent after smoking as opposed to before smoking?

[ThePopeIsMyPal]

u feel calmer and relax like a good anixiety killer like some1 stated already

[x cynic x]

if swiys not addictied then a cigarette may bring a slight wave of euphoria but if swiys addicted than a cigarrete will do nothing but temporarily subside the addiction

[blinkKDX]

swim suggests if anyone wants to get a buzz go with dip. it will knock the socks off any swimmer that still has a nicotine v-card.

[baron samedi]

SWIM thinks there is a high with tobacco, just he stopped getting it after a year or so.
He says his first cig of the day used to make him feel happy and devoid of anxiety for quite a few hours after use.
Once you've been smoking for years though, the only high you'll get is while you're smoking, if anything.

[darkglobe]

Originally Posted by blinkKDX

swim suggests if anyone wants to get a buzz go with dip. it will knock the socks off any swimmer that still has a nicotine v-card.

This SWIM suggests that one doesn't use a carcinogenic, higly addictive drug for a "buzz"!

~Dark

[darkglobe]

Originally Posted by boylizard

swim doesnt suggest smoking cigarettes at all, but if done right tobacco can provide a great occasional recreational buzz.

Not true. The "buzz" is probably the brain's starvation of Oxygen, or as some idiot found out, Nicotine overdose (which can be fatal, y'know).

A friend of mine chewed a whole pack of my Nicotine gum to see what would happen. Wanna know what he saw?

He saw a hospital ceiling.

~Dark

[Nicaine]

Nicotine increases brain levels of dopamine (pretty sure anyway it's not a reuptake inhibitor) and that produces a definite high... it's just a rather subtle one, particularly for those who have been using nicotine for years.

Combining nicotine with cocaine (note my username ) can make nicotine's effects much more obvious... not that SWIM would recommend this.

[darkglobe]

Well I never....

[LiLiTH]

The worst thing about tobacco is that after the initial 'nice feeling' of smoking during the first months what is left is a nicotine dependance, some people don't even enjoy the act of smoking, they just need it.

[darkglobe]

That's true. To the point of agony.

Fucking cigarettes.

Off them 2 weeks today, though And well fucking proud!

~Dark

[seeingred]

really? SWIM has nicorette 2mg, and just chews one a day because of the stimulant effects- it seems less bad than adderall or ritalin, and SWIM is having a really hard time focusing on anything at all. didnt know the gum could be harmful, but looking for anything that will combat the ---tired spaced out cant think focus read thing--

[Codehead]

When I'm on opioids, no mater which one, codeine, tramadol, bupre, etc, I find that nicotine gives really nice euphoric rush, even when you are already on euphoria. I think opioids make nicotine effects much stronger, or nicotine makes opioid effects much stronger.

[Codehead]

Off-topic
Why I can't edit my posts?

[vantranist]

Originally Posted by seeingred

really? SWIM has nicorette 2mg, and just chews one a day because of the stimulant effects- it seems less bad than adderall or ritalin, and SWIM is having a really hard time focusing on anything at all. didnt know the gum could be harmful, but looking for anything that will combat the ---tired spaced out cant think focus read thing--

same with amphetmines, and mushrooms, it seems it really jusy synergizes well with anything SWIM is on.

tabbaco by itself has no value to swim

[all_time_high]

Originally Posted by Codehead

Off-topic
Why I can't edit my posts?

You can't edit your posts because this forum offers editing of posts as a privilege to Silver Members. You can be one by donating.


SWIM clearly remembers his first cigarette. He was 11 and immature to start so early. After inhaling his first tobacco smoke he felt heavy headed and nauseous. He sat on the ground immediately because he felt week in the knees. The nausea wore off in some 30 seconds and he felt relaxed and euphoric for the next 5 minutes. It definitely felt nice because that was the first time he ever did a drug recreationally.

SWIM couldn't forget that feeling and he once again resorted to smoking tobacco when he was 15 for several reasons (personal trauma, peer pressure, curiosity). That was when he became a regular smoker. The tobacco smoking acted as a stimulant(just like caffeine) for him and he smoked when he was tensed or when he had nothing better to do. Smoking then hit him in the head slightly and him feel better. You can say slightly euphoric.

It was after smoking regularly(say 20 Marlboro reds a day) for some 5-6 months he realized that smoking no longer makes him feel better or euphoric but not smoking makes him dull and depressed. He was continuing to smoke just because it was a habit/addiction without any added effects whatsoever. SWIM tried lowering it down gradually and was able to lower it to 1 cigarette a day.

SWIM says that as of today tobacco hits him when he smokes his first joint(he rolls his own now) in the morning after a sleep even when he is very tolerant. He smokes 3-4 locally grown fresh tobacco joints in a day and they make him feel better and euphoric.

[eltimmy]

Tobacco smoke inhibits monoamine oxidase (subtype B), an enzyme which erases dopamine, as well as phenethylamine, an amphetamine-like neurotransmitter that occurs naturally and releases in response to certain stimuli -- exciting things. Available dopamine is increased. Nicotine, a component of tobacco smoke, is an agonist at the "nicotinic" acetylcholine receptors, which has a number of downstream effects* -- centrally, some of these include stimulation of GABA and a further release of dopamine.

* You'll find if you start studying neuroscience that nothing "up there" occurs in a vacuum -- what we speak of is an incredibly complex system with incredibly complex interplay -- more complex than even we know. Don't get me started on the consciousness-chemical feedback loop ...

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[Rudie]

Plus it makes you look cool!

[coffeeorsomething]

I smoke cigarettes occasionally, perhaps 1-2 a week (if SWIM has cocaine or opiates SWIM smokes like half a pack because of delicious synergy).

I would describe the effects as increased heart rate, though I don't find them particularly stimulating, combined with a head rush and body high that lasts for up to 10 minutes after finishing the cigarette. The body high is slightly euphoric, and you feel heavy and relaxed. Sometimes - pretty rarely - I tear the filter off my cigarette and this really kicks the buzz to the next level, you basically have to sit down and your fingers start to tingle. Occasionally they make me feel a bit nauseous, but not in a problematic way since once I feel the nausea coming on I stop smoking.

From talking to regular smokers, and as noted in other posts in this thread, I have concluded that this buzz goes away if you smoke regularly.

Originally Posted by darkglobe

Not true. The "buzz" is probably the brain's starvation of Oxygen

This is patently untrue. I never starve my brain for oxygen when I smoke cigarettes; I take a hit, suck it in for about a second, then exhale. Compare this method of smoking to the common method for smoking marijuana, in which the hits are generally held in for longer periods of time...if the nicotine head rush/buzz was due to oxygen deprivation then it stands to reason that SWIM and SWIY would notice the same head rush from smoking bud, which SWIM and SWIY do not.

[Codehead]

Originally Posted by darkglobe

Not true. The "buzz" is probably the brain's starvation of Oxygen

That's most stupid bullshit I've ever have heard. Just try snuss or snuff (nasal tobacco), you get the same effects as from smoking; snuff gives even harder nicotine buzz than cigarettes.

A friend of mine chewed a whole pack of my Nicotine gum to see what would happen. Wanna know what he saw?

He saw a hospital ceiling.

Your friend is stupid. Nicotine OD can kill you.

[st3v3]

How would smokers describe the effects of having a smoke?
Does it keep you awake, help you sleep, calm you, motivate you or give you a euphoria?

The only effects SWIM noticed from smoking was that it made SWIM more nervous, but it distracted SWIMs mind from other thing's. SWIM says that every single thing
that is negative that the human body could possibly endure, tabacco surely can play a role. Skin, eyes, hair, teeth and gums, organs, lungs, FACE etc. everything becomes a victem, and slowly starts breaking down each year that passes where tabaco is being consumed, even if whereas the breaking down process cannot be felt by the user.

Smoking has no purpose, that is the initial purpose. It can distract, but for what it's worth, it ain't worth it, so SWIM says. SWiY will be shaking for your next smoke, just to kill SWiYs body some more, and get more nervous.

SWIM knew this JOHNDOE back in high school. 15 years old only. This JOHNDOE smoked 1 cigarette and got emphysema. It's just all a matter of time of when your body decides to give out on you. For everybody that timing is different. Tick..tock..