Generic and brand name oxycontin questions and answers

[Cybershark]

Swim, Tried the Teva 80's before and got a very bad high from them so Swim was concerned these were not the same quality as the name brand )C 80's. Swim knows the Teva's suck so Swim was wondering if these act and feel the same way as the OC brand name 80's do. Thanks in advance for your help again!

[Forthesevenlakes]

The tevas are a bit different than the ABG's. if swim remembers correctly the tevas are oblong in shape, and will gel up upon contact with water, making them nearly impossible to shoot. However, the ABGs do, in fact, feel the same as the OC brand name, for both pain control and recreational usage. So say many lab rats who are experienced with both.

[Cybershark]

Swim appreciates your input so Swim will indulge and let you know how his evening goes tonight. looks like a great forum and thank you so much for all your help. Swim enjoys being here and appreciates all your help! Have a great night and weekend!

[Forthesevenlakes]

thanks! swim loves to help whenever he can. keep us posted as to how the abg's work out for swiy after he indulges. have fun and be safe =]

[Forthesevenlakes]

threads merged

[mikestafford06]

Originally Posted by Colby

SWIM came up on some oxycontin he believes, SWIM knows a lot about oxycontin, and has seen just about every pill but these.

white 10mg

10 on 1 side
abg on the other

any info would be great

Yes colby..SWIM has seen the abg oxy's....there is also a brand that has the mg dosage on one side & CDN on the other...these are beleived to come from Canada.

[mikestafford06]

Ahh yes and also swim recently ran across a VERY generic form of OC...the dosages are the same color as the name brand but the pill itself is noticably larger..they are shootable and snortable but the taste is absolutely dreadful.....also swim couln,t help but notice that when snorted these generics have the texture of say a crushed up methadone wafer & hit the back of the throat with that same nasty grit.

[Cybershark]

Swim says those ABG 80's are great and exactly the same as the name brand OC 80's!

Swim appreciates all your advice and wants everyone here to know what is up. Tevas' in Swim's
opinion just suck even orally they also have a bad after effect in Swim's opinion. Swim says just stick with the name brand OC 80's or ABG 80's and all will be fine. They are exactly the same with just a different stamp on them and the best on the market in Swim's opinion!

[happyuno]

OK SWIM scored about 100 of these oatmeal cookies, EX on one side 40 on the other , suppose to be made by RAFFO our of south america, some spinoff of purdue, anyway they seem to have a differant effect, whent crushed they stya together in a clump like an oatmeal cookie, when taken orally they seem to act realy slow so much that there is no rush or buzz to them, sniffing a crushed one leave a bitter taste in mouth when the drip comes.

They definitly have OC in them just something differant about them, could it be SWIM body chemistry.. cost was XXXXXXXX. (NO SOURCES OR PRICES!)

can oxy be CWE from the binders?

[Forthesevenlakes]

The CDN marked oxys are actually brand name, marketed for canada. Brand name oxys from mexico have EX on them. The DEA requested that the manufacturer do this so that they could more easily track where oxys were being diverted from when they are seized.

[Forthesevenlakes]

Oxy can't be cwe from the binders to swim's knowledge, cwe is to separate opioids from acetaminophen...but theres no APAP in oxycontin. SWIY would probably end up with the oxy in liquid suspension, which might absorb better cuz there would be more surface area.

[PapaSomniferum]

referring back to the original question. swim says that there is generic oxycodone pills with ABG on them. swim says ABG can go shit themselves for making the pills double the size!

[Cybershark]

Swim says the ABG's are exactly and I mean exactly the same size as the brand name OC's. They are made my Purdue and they sell them to a company named Watson now. You must be thinking of a different pill. Swim has some right in front of him now next to the named brand OC 80's and there is no difference in size what so ever.

[Forthesevenlakes]

SWIM saw no difference between ABGs and brand name OC's, with size or potency, during his last personal assay with both types, sometime last month. So SWIY is right, Cybershark.

[maximumquake]

Hi I am new to this site and so far everything I have seen has been very helpful. I know people have made previous posts about this topic and I am sorry to make another one but I have not found the exact information I am looking for my buddy swim. Recently a close friend of my swim, has come across 80mg oxycontin made by teva saying 9333 on them, for xxxxxxxxxxx. Oxycontin for that price around here is a very good deal, so my buddy swim could not pass it up. But see the problem my friend has is, he only sniffs pills he does not shoot them up. Swim has a decent tolerance for opiates not to high, but my buddy only does opiates occasionally and has never went threw with draw because he has had close expierences with family members who have went threw withdraw from opiates. But my buddy swim from time to time does not mind takeing an oxy or two. But as I said my friend problem is he usually sniffs them, but these "gelled" up in his nose and did nothing to him. Swim just sniffed 40mg and barelly felt it, which usually would be enough for him to be plenty high. So my friend wants to know is there anyway to get around it from gelling up in your nose. One of swims friend told him if he kept the coating on the pill it would not do it, and to swim's dissapointment it did not help at all. So swim wants to know if there is no way to get around it from gelling when sniffed, he wants to know what is the best way to take this pill. Is the best way to take the pill orally or is there another way that it can be done? Also my friend swim has wondered yet has never tried taking the pill rectally. He wants to know if it is worth taking rectally, will the oxy hit him as hard as sniffed because sticking things up his but does not sound like a good idea. But if he was the to try it rectally he would like to know in detail how to go about doing this. Also he would like to know is there any other way then swallowing the pill, sniffing it, rectally taking it, or shooting it up that would give him the same experience as sniffing it. One more thing swim would also like to know if it is taken rectally would it hit him as harder or harder then sniffing it. Everybody I am sorry about all the questions, and reposting a topic that has already been posted, but my friend swim got a good deal on oxy's and they cant be sniffed. Swim would never think about sticking a needle anywhere on his body and it seems when swim swallows oxy they do nothing except make him nod off with out the euphoric high that is reached when swim sniffs his beloved oxycontin. So could some please give my friend swim some more information on this issue. Any information given will be highly appreciated.


DO NOT POST PRICES.

[Nagognog2]

The thread for rectal administration of opiates is here:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22922

[Forthesevenlakes]

This topic has been dealt with before. I'm going to merge this thread with the existing one on Tevas. Rectal administration and oral are probably the only options here. Oxycodone absorbs quite well orally, in SWIM's opinion its actually a waste of drug to snort it.

[oathrocks]

I didnt see this said but the ABGS-Watsons are made by purdue, hence they are excattly the same are name brand!!

[Forthesevenlakes]

Originally Posted by oathrocks

I didnt see this said but the ABGS-Watsons are made by purdue, hence they are excattly the same are name brand!!

Its true. The only difference SWIM can tell between the two is that one says "ABG", the other says "OC". But they look, taste, feel, etc. exactly the same. They are even the same when crushed or mixed with water, which places them way beyond some of the other generics in SWIM's opinion.

[Donmeka]

ABGs and OCs are definatly close to twins as can be in SWIMs opinion and really the only argument in generics is there is a large base for insufflating OCs and basically a smaller pill = less powder = less up your nose. the 93/33 footballs SWIM remembers hearing that insufflation was a bit unpleasant because of the gel effect. SWiM never knew that until this thread so thanks for the knowledge

SWIM likes the OCs or ABGs best though.

[Forthesevenlakes]

The gelling on the 93/33 generic oblong OC 80 mg's does make it a bit difficult to insufflate. Oral administration works fine and can be done by crushing the pill before ingestion, SWIM says. SWIM also states that insufflation is possible with these, but difficult as Donmeka mentions. It seemed to work best for SWIM when he separated insufflation into smaller increments, rather than doing the whole dose at once. For example, if one wanted to insufflate 20 mg, divide the lines into four 5 mg piles, and do them a few minutes apart. However its been some time since SWIM has dealt with those kinds of oxy's, so SWIY's milage may vary.

[Donmeka]

SWIM noticed that the pills that gel up on your nose cause drips hours later. if SWIM is correct MS Contin contains the same whatnot.

getting the drip down is trouble and will cause random drip throughout the day

[Donmeka]

SWIM recently insufflated an OC 80 and today an ABG 80 and SWIM can confirm no difference...in his opinion

[BANGINCOLOR]

My first post, I posted SWIM said the ABG's are "the worst". I guess it's been so long since SWIM has had to take an ABG since he gets brand prescribed every month cause SWIM just saw an acutal ABG and remembers them now to be one of the better generics.

Still stands for the generics Endo makes, they are bottom of the barrel.

Also saw a Teva football and remembered they weren't too bad either. He remembered how, when crushed, they are very mushy but almost as good as the ABG's.

Being a veteran of many years of being prescribed oxycontin, SWIM swears there is a noticeable difference between brand and generic and it's worth it for him to pay the xtra $$ for the brands.

Rookies out there will do FINE with any generic, even Endos.

I just didn't want my first post to dissuade anyone from the ABG's especially when ANY generic should be good to go for any rookie. Take care.