Mixing ecstasy Pills w/Alcohol

[wheetees]

SWIM wants to kno if you mix a pill with a shot does it hit faster.

[Vysas]

Sometimes,someone...

[Nagognog2]

It would not hit one faster. And mixing alcohol with MDMA is a generally bad idea. Alcohol will dehydrate one, and you need fluids wile using MDMA. It will also cause a headache for many people.

[Bajeda]

Swim can tell you from experience (that he wished he didn't have) that MDMA and alcohol don't go well together at all. Especially when the amount of alcohol is increased the combination just starts to get really wrong. You get drunk much faster and have less control over physical side effects possible from alcohol. Blackout will probably occur faster as well as loss of physical and mental control over the body. Dehydration is a much bigger factor, and the roll seems to lose strength when alcohol is added.

For the most part, this is a combination to avoid at all costs and if it must (can't see many situations if any where this combo could no absolutely be avoided) be done the amount of alcohol should be severely limited.

[wheetees]

Thanks =)

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

Swim can tell you from experience (that he wished he didn't have) that MDMA and alcohol don't go well together at all. Especially when the amount of alcohol is increased the combination just starts to get really wrong. You get drunk much faster and have less control over physical side effects possible from alcohol. Blackout will probably occur faster as well as loss of physical and mental control over the body. Dehydration is a much bigger factor, and the roll seems to lose strength when alcohol is added.

For the most part, this is a combination to avoid at all costs and if it must (can't see many situations if any where this combo could no absolutely be avoided) be done the amount of alcohol should be severely limited.

Though SWIM agrees with SWIBajeda on most things, the fact that one get's drunk much faster is wrong. Amphetamines(like MDMA) supress drunkenness, and make you feel more sober and clear, some people that amphetamines so they can drink more and still feel sober. This is very bad for your body, and does a lot of damage due to dehydration, so don't mix amphetamines and alcohol.

[sthomson1]

Very handy at end of night, if youve pulled, and your too drunk. Wee dab of speed will sober SWIM right up )

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

Though SWIM agrees with SWIBajeda on most things, the fact that one get's drunk much faster is wrong. Amphetamines(like MDMA) supress drunkenness, and make you feel more sober and clear, some people that amphetamines so they can drink more and still feel sober. This is very bad for your body, and does a lot of damage due to dehydration, so don't mix amphetamines and alcohol.

Swim isn't sure about the chemistry behind it (well the amphetamine part he knows) but he is sure that on the few occaisions he was rolling and consumed alcohol he got very drunk extremely fast with little consumption. He has drank on amphetamines plenty of times without experiencing this.

Does swiPsych0naut have an chemical / pharmacological explanation for how MDMA + Alcohol interacts? Swim is interested as unless there was something else in the rolls in particular he is thinking of (he doubts it) then there was something odd about how he got so drunk so fast. He is currently thinking that it was a synergistic effect between MDMA and the alcohol that overrides the normal amphetamine + alcohol combination effects.

[namooP]

SWIMs friends highly recommend getting drunk before dropping. Apparently it makes the come-up a little more interesting, and they\'re much more experienced then SWIM. SWIM himself has no experience with this particular combination, as usually it\'s a decision between dropping now, or trying to get drunk with his pills sitting beside him, waiting to be taken. Only 1 winner there.

Side note though, SWIMs friends have a habit of vomiting while coming up, alcohol or not, but it might be a contributory factor.

[podge]

Mixing MDMA and alcohol isnt a great idea....dehydration is dangerous but swim doesnt think he has ever been buzzing without drinking. It will lead to much worse comedown in the morning......pint or two of water before bed is usefull if swiy remembers.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by namooP

Side note though, SWIMs friends have a habit of vomiting while coming up, alcohol or not, but it might be a contributory factor.

I think thats a highly likely possiblity. Swim has only known a few people who have thrown up on Ecstasy but he can definitely see alcohol exacerbating any feelings of nausea one would get from the pills.

[boylizard]

mixing pills with alcohol is generally a bad idea because alcohol seems to fuck with every pill... especially downers. uppers, on the other hand... as long as swiy stays well hydrated and watches swiys alcohol intake he should be fine.

[namooP]

Neither SWIM nor his friends drink alcohol while actually up. Rather, they get drunk before coming up. I don\'t think it\'s be a good idea, or even enjoyable at all, to drink while rolling.

[Raz1569]

When SWIM rolls almost veery time he has it with alcohol..it dehydrated you more but if you know how to handle E that isn;'t a problem, but SWIM lieks it because when you start to come down on the e YOU'RE NOT STOOD THERE SOBER YOU'LL STILL BE FEELIN DRUNK SO YOU CAN CARRY ON IF THERE'S NO MORE e AVAILABLE, (SWIM is coming down now from an all day roll and cant be assed to change the accidental caps in his message)

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by Raz1569

When SWIM rolls almost veery time he has it with alcohol..it dehydrated you more but if you know how to handle E that isn;'t a problem, but SWIM lieks it because when you start to come down on the e YOU'RE NOT STOOD THERE SOBER YOU'LL STILL BE FEELIN DRUNK SO YOU CAN CARRY ON IF THERE'S NO MORE e AVAILABLE, (SWIM is coming down now from an all day roll and cant be assed to change the accidental caps in his message)

Its not a matter of you knowing how to handle it, its a matter of you knowing how to use MDMA responsibly with the least amount of physical and mental harm. "Knowing" how to handle E won't make the alcohol have any less of an effect or negative repercussions on your body, rather having experience with MDMA and being knowledgeable about it should prevent you from drinking much if any alcohol while under its influence.

[DrMuffy]

Well one time when SWIdr was up on the Jersey shore, he got drunk with some of his friends (8 shots o' vodka in about 1 1/2 hours). They decide to walk down to the boardwalk to look for some blow. Well anyways they ended up finding some Blue Gator ecstacy pills instead. SWIdr had fun all night, alot more fun than he normally does on X, but when the come down came he got pretty damn sick (severe naseau, migraine, vomiting, depression, etc...) which lasted for a couple of hours. SWIdr usually doesnt have bad comedowns on X and just gets a little depressed, so this was pretty odd... So now he doesnt really mix the two ecause even hough the pros were good, the cons f*cking sucked.

[grecian]

Swim came up extremely quickly after having a shot of tequila around an hour after dropping a pill on new years eve. It may be worth worth mentioning that he had already been drinking (probly 5 cans of cider and a couple of whisky and cokes).

Swim has mixed alcohol and MDMA on numerous occasions now without any negative medical effects making their presence felt. However the health risks are undeniable and swim would therefore never recommend anyone to combine the two.

[wheetees]

Sry another nooby question...SWIM poped 2 pills a couple days ago how long is it in his system?

[Bajeda]

^^^^^^ That question isn't especially related to the thread. You could probably find another thread that is more in the context of your question. Or if you can't find an existing thread that answers your question, try the MDMA basics thread.






Back to the alcohol and MDMA topic, swim rolled earlier and had a few beers (two cans and a game of beer pong) later in the roll and found the sustaining MDMA effects to diminish rather quickly after he first imbibed alcohol. He doesn't feel like the come-down was any worse with what he drank, but he did find that it killed the 'E' effects too quickly for his liking.

[Flimmar]

SWIM wouldn't recommend getting drunk and then drop.
SWIM once got drunk before the come up, which wasn't smart at all, because he ended up with a backhead soar as hell due to a damn headache.

SWIM also says, that the headache came on much "heavier", it was really unpleasant. He ended up holding a bag of frozen fries to his backhead for 1 hour

[unconditionaldl]

In SWIM'S opinion, being drunk before taking e is a much different experience than taking e sober.. SWIM's not quite sure which is better though.

[Flimmar]

Yeah well, SWIM can understand why some people would want to take the edge of the waiting, but in the end, it could end up contributing to things going wrong - say, SWIY would get some dirty pills with PCP or what ever it's called, and if you're drunk, it could be the end of it.

SWIM know it is over-dramatised, but he sure thing wouldn't want things to go bad, if all of his friends were drunk.

Consider the risks.

[Nagognog2]

Occam's razor tells one that people are going to mix alcohol with whatever is in the pills they take. And Murphy's law tells us some people are going to get sick as a result.

The simplest and best advice is to tell people NOT to drink and take pills - or take pills and drink. Maybe the story of this idiot we had in my town will dissuade: The kid dropped some XTC and was drinking in the city park. He saw a cop walking through and ran up to the cop (stumbling more like). And he began trying to climb on him while tongue-kissing the poor officer! All the cop could do was throw him on the ground and say "Jesus! Cut the shit!"

High Times!

[Mona Lisa]

SWIM, on the other hand, enjoyed having a couple of pints to help her relax, espeically during the comeup and come down. It seemed to take the nervousness away.

[VitaminK22]

Originally Posted by Mona Lisa

SWIM, on the other hand, enjoyed having a couple of pints to help her relax, espeically during the comeup and come down. It seemed to take the nervousness away.

swim also gets kinda nurvous during the come up too, but he has never drank alcohol before takin pills due to him bein scared of throwin up. swim never gets nervious on the comedown tho but he thinks thats just the amount of bud he smokes.