Will Pot ever again be as good as it used to be?

[Akewstick]

SWIM remembers a time where he could get out a tiny aluminium pipe, pack enough bud to cover the surface of a fingernail, and spend the next 3 hours unnable to fully open his eyes, stumbling around the park, laughing so hard you could feel the bass on your chest, and being able to see airoplanes and dolphins made out of leaves jumping out at him from trees.

Over the course of I don't know how long, this changed and SWIM could smoke enormous bong after enormous bong, and never get high, the more he smoked, the tireder he got, and he could smoke forever and ever and get sleepier and sleepier and never fall asleep.

So, 15 (16 today) days ago SWIM gave up the Sweet Leaf.

It seems like fucking years.

SWIM planned to give up, not for a specific time, but for "a while", he had in mind two months, but not a strict timeframe, he thinks if it gets to two months and he thinks he could go another week or another month pretty easily, he'll keep going.

The main thinking was so that he can get back some of the effects, some of the giggly/visual effects, those are what he misses the most.

Once upon a time, when SWIM and his friends got stoned they would have incredible ideas, things the sober mind could never in it's wildest dreams conjure up, and go on fifteen-minute-long rants that would leave everyone in the room frantically searching for a pen.

Are those days gone forever? Is the most SWIM can hope for the thought that things might get slightly trippier than before he stopped?

SWIM wonders how much of the memories aren't pot, and how much are just being 16 years old, full of hormones, with no consequences and a group of avid stoner friends to show-off to.

[Nature Boy]

Could be tolerance that's causing cannabis to lose its edge for SWIY, then again maybe he needs to start smoking stronger weed. This is something that people often forget. SWIM usually smokes decent grade skunk but came across a batch of imported skunk that absolutely blew his mind last week. A smoke off two joints and a bong hit left him more stoned than he's been in well over a year! If anything, he was thinking the stuff was a little too potent. He literally couldn't get up off his ass for hours. No matter how hardened a smoker anyone is, there's definitely some strains out there that will get them as baked as they were during the "glory years".

[snapper]

SWIM agrees that tolerance is the problem. SWIM has found that over time weed has little effect unless very strong strains or kif are used. SWIM also has found that stopping for a while recaptures the effect, though SWIM usually does not enjoy the effects of strong weed after a long break (too intense).
SWIM agrees that there are some really strong varieties out there, but SWIM also finds that one can become tolerant to these quite rapidly regardless.
SWIM also feels that a drug loses some of its effect because of the brain learning to compensate for andd become habituated to its effects. A psychological tolerance matters as much as a physical one. SWIM has never had any LSD like SWIM's first dose(s), and part of it is because SWIM did not know what to expect, so it blew SWIM's mind. After a while, though, LSD became somewhat predictable, and SWIM never again regained that initial trip. Initial use of cannabis gives one a new perspective which becomes an increasingly normal perspective over time with regular use.

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what a brilliant comment, you should be proud

[zera]

Originally Posted by snapper

SWIM agrees that tolerance is the problem. SWIM has found that over time weed has little effect unless very strong strains or kif are used. SWIM also has found that stopping for a while recaptures the effect, though SWIM usually does not enjoy the effects of strong weed after a long break (too intense).
SWIM agrees that there are some really strong varieties out there, but SWIM also finds that one can become tolerant to these quite rapidly regardless.
SWIM also feels that a drug loses some of its effect because of the brain learning to compensate for andd become habituated to its effects. A psychological tolerance matters as much as a physical one. SWIM has never had any LSD like SWIM's first dose(s), and part of it is because SWIM did not know what to expect, so it blew SWIM's mind. After a while, though, LSD became somewhat predictable, and SWIM never again regained that initial trip. Initial use of cannabis gives one a new perspective which becomes an increasingly normal perspective over time with regular use.

Swim thinks the solution to this is to take the drug in a new environement or setting. Substances like cannabis or LSD seem to be heavily influenced by the surronding environement, and taking it a new situation or doing new things on it could bring back some of the original novelty.

When swim smokes heavily he gets much more of a depressant effect and less of a psychedelic effect (the good ideas that swiawestruck was mentioning), sometimes if he could induce paranoia in himself it would take away the depressant effect and bring out the psychedlic effect. Nothing like paranoia to bring a trip to a whole new level, though it's not enjoyable it can be a useful tool.

[Pinkavvy]

That marijuana has only gotten better, it must be swiy and their body and tolorance that has changed.

[vantranist]

SWIM has expeirnced a similar problem.

Its like i get the body high and certain aspects of the high still, but the mental aspect is sorta gone or very weak.

[geezaman]

SWIM is also experiencing this, SWIM does not smoke daily only once or twice a week, SWIM has given up smoking for a month and found no change between the effects before and after.
SWIMs smoking always has a visual aspect after a few bowls, a light flashing of everything, and CEVs (very difficult to describe, but..) as though looking at a tray full of marbles that are all flashing.
there is nothing SWIM has found that he can smoke that brings back, those random thoughts, inspirations, giggleyness, and chest hurting laughter. SWIM has smoked lots and lot of bud in a sitting, lots and lots of oil, and lots and lots of hash ( also tryed vaporising all) all from medium to high grade bud but still cannot obtain these effects.
SWIM belives it is because of setting, it is not now the summer, he no longer smokes with a group of about 5 friends who all bounce off each other, he no longer smokes laying down in the park sure of bieng undisturbed for hours. He is sure come the warm weather, come more free time, and come bieng around the same group of friends again able to give up days to just fucking about and getting high that all of these things will return,
untill those days return SWIM is sad to accept the fact he has turned into an unmotivated mongy stoner when he smokes

[AntiAimer]

All smurf knows is tolerance builds FAST! Also for Smurf his high hasn't been the same since he was a kid. It changes, has never gotten visuals but has gotten the giggles laughing at nothing and feeling as if his body is 21874628423784 pounds. Which was very enjoyable.

He has stopped for months, but still can't get the same effects. Smurf assumes it's all about your body and metabolism changeing over time and mentally being familiar with the effects. The only thing that comes close, is ingesting it, since it gets you 200% more stoned. Also differen't strains can give better highs then others.

[CountChristoph]

SWIM has been doing weed ounce a day for 3 weeks and has only noticed that he has to smoke a LITTLE bit more to get the same effects.

Other than that weed just keeps getting better and better.
SWIM is sure his tolerance will buid up eventually but when it does he will wait a couple weeks before doing it agian.

[Pinkavvy]

The experience of marijuana is an ever-changing and always-differant experience. This is why so many people, like swip, use marijuana as a ceramonial and spiritual tool to help persue enlightenment and happiness; and in swip's case, to connect with reality.

It's a fact that marijuana hasn't gotten weaker over time, only stronger... but it is also a fact that new genetics have changed the ratio's of alkaloids therefore causing new and differant 'highs.'

More then the strain differances, marijuana's effect can differ depending on many things such as your body, your mind, your mindstate, your chemical balances of the time, your stress level, your social suroundings, your environment, and most importantly your soul. Each expereince can be and IS differant and ever changing.

[D.U.M.B]

A nice little break will help for sure. But you should look into different strains too. See if it's a sativa high or indica high you're looking for.

SWIM has often made the mistake thinking he can handle any type of bud handed to him. Well every once and a while SWIM smokes a strain that makes him realise just how strong marijuana can be.

SWIM also finds that any strain he's helped to grow seems to kick his ass so to speak.

Best advice is continue to take your break and maybe don't start smoking again until you get a different strain. Or SWIY could try eating some or various different methods of smoking.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

sorry, but the answer is no.

long ago the high was mixed with innocence, now the innocence is tainted and can never be regained. yes there is tolerance to be considered, environment may even play a part; but the keys are in the soul and the soul slowly dies.

[D.U.M.B]

Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity

sorry, but the answer is no.

long ago the high was mixed with innocence, now the innocence is tainted and can never be regained. yes there is tolerance to be considered, environment may even play a part; but the keys are in the soul and the soul slowly dies.

For a first post that's pretty intense. But saying you'll never get stoned the same again because of your soul well ... sigh! how does SWIM even argue with that.

[vantranist]

I dunno if i would say its tolerance mabye its just getting used to the effects, thats what happend to swim anyways... to a small degree.

[greenthumm419]

Maybe after a long break grow a sativa and harvest some slightly early, some just right and some a little late. Something like kali mist or a diesel variety would be good. In swims experience, this might give you some of what your missing.

[ProtectedByTheGods]

Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity

... and the soul slowly dies.

Talk about yourself dude, don't assume about others.


@Akewstick: Just stay clear from it for a couple of weeks, and you might
get some of the good old effects back.
But yeah, SWIM agrees that he never quite felt again like the first couple
of times he got high. It is really rare that he gets giggly nowadays.
SWIM thinks it's just the mind that is thrown something totally new at.
After some time the mind gets used to it.

[searcher]

Airplanes and dolphins jumping out of trees... hmmm. in swims many years of smoking weed flowers, this has never happened to swim.
I think its the sensation of the unknown that makes you beieve that weed was better. The only thing swim noticed about "good" weed and "bad" weed is that you have to smoke more bad weed than good to get the same effects.
The best weed swim ever smoked was 25+ years ago, golden weed that tasted like and smelled like good hash. Yep, swim says that was some fine weed.

[ProtectedByTheGods]

Originally Posted by searcher

The only thing swim noticed about "good" weed and "bad" weed is that you have to smoke more bad weed than good to get the same effects.

Well...... SWIY know, there actually IS good weed and then there IS bad weed.
SWIY can take one puff of the proper stuff and be blissfully stoned, while at
the same time SWIY can smoke joint after joint of the poor stuff, and all
you get is a headache.

Actually, that is a pretty good definition of good weed: how high it gets SWIY at all.

[Akewstick]

Airplanes and dolphins jumping out of trees

Made out of leaves.

[Veteran Joker]

SWIM feels it's all about the strains. He used to get major body highs, become totally stoned and in which case the cannabis worked more as a depressant. But fortutitious circumstances means for the past year SWIM has had really good Mary to smoke, cerebal highs and such. That's why he's looking forward to Amsterdam to do hash and white widow again. The stuff that makes a Veteran Joker feel like a first time Toker