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Old 06-02-2007, 06:36
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Question 4-AcO-DMT Legal in the USA?

SWIM recently heard something that made him question if this compound is actualy legal in the USA?

"Esters are specifically illegal. As 4-AcO-DMT is the acetate ester of psilocin, as opposed to the phosphate ester, it is definitely illegal!"

And then he also heard this:

"About the legality of 4-aco-dmt, found this on another forum
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esters are specifically mentioned, controlled,

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esters and salts of esters are specifically mentioned in the CSA. For example, The various fentanyls are for the most part esters of the same chemical, though it is inactive on its own. Esters are typically metabolised quickly into the original -OH group, though it is possible that the ester itself could be active, it should be able to get into the brain easier but its all just a guess.
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You are correct about fentenyl but the mention of esters in the CSA is under the opiates section not the hallucinogen section.

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/...d_sched1.shtml

So 4-aco-dmt would not be covered as an ester. It would be covered under the analogue act. Also, I imagine it would pretty much impossible to to make 4-aco-dmt without having some trace of 4-ho-dmt in it, which would make it illegal that way too.




A friend analysed some of this 4-aco-dmt (LC/MS) and found no psilocin in it, actually the stuff is so stable it was *hard* to get it to degrade into psilocin - unless excessive NaOH was used (enough NaOH to take care of the 2-fumarate's and the acetoxy group + extra), if way extra NaOH was used it starts to turn Blue actually..(everything dissolved into water, blueish water) producing other degration products"

He understands that this compound as well as may others are illegal under the analouge law IF for human consumption, but would this compound be illegal to have in the first place?
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