cleaning speed

[captain coke]

I know it may be a stupid question, but is there a way to clean up amphetamines sulphate (the powder form) to get something more pure,or to clean all the shit that is added to cut? You can do that with coke (amoniac and a spoon...)


Can you smoke the powder form of ampetamines too?

[thadj]

cleaning it up and smoking it are two different things. You can clean your amphetamine sulphate by washing it with acetone I think, not sure though.. anyone else?

[pihkal]

Dude,



One way to get it really clean is to turn it into crystal meth (the pure glass)

There are various ways to do this but not as simple as the spooncook method you do with sno.



I dont know the acetone thing, maybe it's easier to get clean shit rather than start semi cooking by yourself, turning yourself at a higher risk of trouble.



Make sure the shit is tested (70% is very high, you never get 100%,only the real glassy clean meth can be 99%)



PihkaL

[captain coke]

Originally Posted by pihkal

Dude,

One way to get it really clean is to turn it into crystal meth (the pure glass)
There are various ways to do this but not as simple as the spooncook method you do with sno.

I dont know the acetone thing, maybe it's easier to get clean shit rather than start semi cooking by yourself, turning yourself at a higher risk of trouble.

Make sure the shit is tested (70% is very high, you never get 100%,only the real glassy clean meth can be 99%)

PihkaL

i understand, but it's not meth i'm talking about it's amphetamine...

[captain coke]

Originally Posted by thadj

cleaning it up and smoking it are two different things. You can clean your amphetamine sulphate by washing it with acetone I think, not sure though.. anyone else?

acetone? did anybody else hear or try this? before i ruine my stuff... also, when cleaned, can i still snort it, or is it better to smoke ( and how do you smoke it?)...

[le Chef]

Do NOT smoke it!!! It'll create holes in your loungs. If you don't want to take it up through te nose, use empty capsulles or just plane cigarette paper and fold it in and swallow it down. It'll give u a nice buzz in the stomic.

I have read that acetone is used to wash the phospherus during cooking and stimulate the forming of crystals in the final process.

Do not add it to the final product. If it is cut with for example creatine or cafeine that's just a bummer.

You have been screwed and it's whise to pass on to another seller.

If you want to check if your shit is good stuff there is a rather simple method.

Go to the butcher and buy a nice steak. Put an amount of the amphetamine on the meat and check after a number of hours. (Do it before you go to sleep!) If you have quality stuff it will have eaten it's way through it.

[Kemikaru_Tenshu]

You can purify the drug to an extent by using acetone and chloroform. It is also soluble to the extent of one part per 515 parts alcohol, so alcohol can be used to remove polar impurities (as opposed to water, in which it is soluble to the extent of 1 part in 8.8).

Place your powdered drug into a cone-folded coffee filter, place into a funnel positioned in the mouth of a jar, and run the solvent over it until the impurities have dissolved. Make sure to expose as much of the powder to the solvent as possible.

Remove the filter, spread it out, and place on a plate until dry. Do NOT scrape the drug off of the filter. This only collects fibers into your powder. Simply invert the filter and tap until the bulk of the powder is removed.

The amount that is left on the filter is not worth your trouble, but if you REALLY want it you can dissolve it in water and either consume the water or evaporate it to dryness on something you can scrape.



~KT

[marinos]

if you only had access to acetone could the amphetamine sulphate be wshed with just the dry acetone? and how much acetone would you rinse through 7grams?

[Stan Mar5h]

The method you described with cocaine CANNOT BE DONE WITH AMPHETAMINE. If you do that, you are wasting the speed. There is no free-base form of speed, like there is with coccaine (crack). Prescription amphetamine, believe it or not, is most likely going to be the purest you'll be able to get your hands on, because it is not cut with any street shit. There is a way to iscolate amphetamine from it's isomers in amphetamine sulfate, but it is a complicated chemical process and will most likely not be done in the kitchen.

[788.4]

Originally Posted by Stan Mar5h

Prescription amphetamine, believe it or not, is most likely going to be the purest you'll be able to get your hands on, because it is not cut with any street shit.

A friend of mine used to tell himself that to justify snorting pills as opposed to speed. However he realized that a 20mg pill of Adderall weighs at least 100mg, making it at most 20% pure. The stuff the amphetamine/dextroamphetmine is cut with in meth is designed to hold the pill together and thus it get clumped up in the nostrils. Depending on what the street stuff is cut with it may actually be better.

This is from the Merck Index (courtesy of Erowid):

Sulfate, (C9H13N)2.H2SO4, Alentol, Benzedrine, Psychoton, Simpamina. Crystals. Slightly bitter taste followed by sensation of numbness. mp above 300° (dec). One part dissolves in 8.8 parts water, 515 parts 95% ale. A soln of 1 g/10 ml water has a pH 5-6. LD50 in mice, rats (mg/kg): 24.2, 55 orally (Behrendt, Deininger).


Phosphate, C9H13N.H3PO4, Actemin, Aktedron, Monophos, Profetamine Phosphate, Racephen, Raphatamine Phosphate. Prepn: Goggin, U.S. pat. 2,507,468 (1950 to Clark & Clark). Crystals, bitter taste. Sinters at about 150°. Dec around 300°. More sol in water than amphetamine sulfate. Slightly sol in alcohol. Practically insol in benzene, chloroform, ether. The pH of a 10% soln is about 4.6.

I'm almost postivie that street speed (amphetamine) is amphetamine sulfate. Adderall contains both the sulfate and phosphate salts (as well as both salts for dextroamphetamine).


To clean speed you might to wash it with water, pass it through a coffee filter, and collect the liquid which you can allow to evaporate. Use 10 ml of room temperature water (preferably distilled water) for every gram of speed. The substance left after the evaporation will be cleaner speed, and the substance stuck in the coffee filter will be some of the things the speed was cut with.


If you wish to purify your speed further you can use acetone. You can buy this at any hardware store. Just ask for acetone and they will direct you to it. It's pretty inexpensive. Amphetamine sulphate is not soluble in acetone while the things it is cut with may be. This means you can mix the powder left from the previous filtration with acetone, run it through a coffee filter. The amphetamine will be stuck in the coffee filter because it is not soluble.


However there is one problem with the Acetone available at hardware stores, it contains a small ammount of water. To get rid of the water you will need to make dry acetone. You basically cook epson salt in the oven (to dehydrate it and change the crystal structure) and then mix it (1/8 dried epson salt, 7/8 acetone) with the acetone. The salt will absorb the water and chance back to it's old crystaline structure. Filter the mixture of salt and acetone and now you have dry acetone. Use search to find a better explanation of the procedure for making dry acetone.


Now that you have you dry acetone you can mix the speed in it, run it through the filter, and dry the substance left in the coffee filter. The speed should (depending on what it is cut with) be much more pure.

[bentle]

def gunna give some of these methods a try... got a mate who.... but yea, it always seems to be 'dirty'. i think the sitch is different here in aus. brisbane used to be the 'speed capital of australia' (called that many times in many diff media reports) but 'they' (yea, u kno who!!) have cracked down it heaps and have made all the cold n flu tablets real hard to get.. also changed the psuedo ephedrine so that there is some sort of lactate involved. this means we've been gettin gear thats not exactly crystalised and is more like a wet oily smear in the bag... but hey, wat can u do?