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Old 15-10-2006, 05:29
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Methylone insufflation...

SWIM had to start a separate thread on this, because he believes to have discovered the secret to worthwhile snorting of this substance: Chop it up extremely well. Using the blunt edge of a razor blade, credit card or something similar on a hard surface like glass, scrape the crystals really hard by both pressing down and rubbing them laterally against the glass.... first in one direction, then in the other, then continue to repeat. There will be a soft crunching sound as the crystals are crushed. It's possible that a mortar/pestle would work too.

The crystalline solids should be turned into an extremely fine dust. Take 5-10 minutes to do it, if necessary. SWIM found that after doing this, insufflation of a small amount resulted in immediate effects, like coke. He suspects the crystals are normally too large/heavy to be soluble enough or adhere properly to mucus membranes, but this procedure fixes the problem. Note that this also causes maybe 20% to adhere to the inside of a straw, so be sure to tap the end of it on a hard surface afterward to recover the extra.

Any SWIY's trying this who can corroborate SWIM's findings?

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Old 15-10-2006, 12:44
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Re: Methylone insufflation...

SWIM will investigate tomorrow as redose, mg suggestion? swims thinkin 50mg-60mg for a redose, not quite sure how much more potent it is over oral.

Btw, what's the drip like and how long before it goes away?

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Old 15-10-2006, 16:42
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Re: Methylone insufflation...

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SWIM will investigate tomorrow as redose, mg suggestion? swims thinkin 50mg-60mg for a redose, not quite sure how much more potent it is over oral.

Btw, what's the drip like and how long before it goes away?
Similar to coke, but somewhat less... more just a bitter taste in the back of the throat. SWIM always enjoyed a certain amount of drip, but YMMV.
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Old 16-10-2006, 13:05
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Re: Methylone insufflation...

SWIM tried a 50 mg redose a while back on top of oral and it had some effect, but mild and short lived. SWIM later tried 100 mg insufflated during a 2CI 2CC experience and found the effects to come on instantly, the burn to be minimal and gone in about 30 seconds, and the duration of effect annoyingly short (about 45 minutes). Seems like in all cases SWIM has tried, SWIM has found this to be a good way to waste a bunch of material fast for minimal gain.

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Old 17-10-2006, 00:53
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Re: Methylone insufflation...

Thanks, Snapper. SWIM just wanted to confirm insufflation of 30-50mg having a definite & worthwhile effect, albeit not very long lasting as SWIY notes. In SWIM's opinion, the real value of this method is in using up smaller quantities where there would not be much point in oral admin. It also gives finer control over dosage, or at least a feeling of such. Remember that 99% of anything taken through the nose ends up in the stomach, so at worst it wouldn't hurt anyone to try snorting. The only side effect SWIM noticed is a small bit of blood after blowing the nose a day or two later.

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Old 17-10-2006, 06:20
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Re: Methylone insufflation...

Very little burn given the volume of powder, though SWIM feels rectal admin might provide more mileage.
Never know until you try..

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Re: Methylone insufflation...

swim insuflated 125mg aroun maybe 2 hours ago? it didn't really take he says. his pupils were widened but not to the brink of the whites as they go with a fully hitting dose. He would probably blame the poor effort of crushing crystals
nothing noticable happened for 55 minutes so swim dissolved 180mg in water, was surprised at how it dissolved that clear. whenever swim usually dissolves stuff in water it becomes cloudy. the m1 pulled some David Copperfield shit on me and I was getting paranoid I had spilt it . then I drank it and there was the bittersweet reassuring taste of chemical, ah SWIMS never been so relieved to taste that foul tastebud ravager.

25 minutes later, swims eyeys start wiggling like crazy as per protocool on MDMA, and M1. also happend on bzp tfmpp mix but that stuff is rubbish..
that warm body feeling came down on him, and the walls around him came down for now.

Sorry cant spellcheck or see if SWIM even being coherent as my double vision prohibits me from seeing what SWIM types. thank god SWIMS such a nerdy keyboard warrior 120 words per minute no looky!!!!!! all that practise typing under influence is bein showcased here hehehe

wow normally swim type such retarded and selfserving spew but he doesn't quite feel like himself. M1 makes him feell, cocky, not himself - more like a movie characther he feels very comfortable watching through PoV blurry vision and extremely horny.

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Old 18-10-2006, 06:44
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Re: Methylone insufflation...

^lol at cuberuns post.

Sounds like SWIM is havin a good time.
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Insufflated Methylone (bk-MDMA)

(I know that this discussion appeared in other M1 threads, but in those posts the information is contraddictory and confused, so a I think that a coincise thread like this would help SWIM and other methylone newibies)

For everyone who tried methylone:
insufflated(or nasal vaporizing) administratin does boost the effects, lowers the dosage, or lenghten the experience?
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AW: Insufflated Methylone

it shortens the duration and weakens the experience...
kinda like insufflating mdma
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:55
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Re: Insufflated Methylone

SWIM finds the speed of onset to be much greater with insufflated methylone, almost immediate. Other than that though, he didn't find many other benefits. Doesn't seem to hit any harder or last longer, and the large-ish quantities involved aren't very convenient. Typically SWIM will start out the evening insufflating, but won't keep it up for long. Or he'll just do a line occasionally for the psychological effects of the taste/drip.
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:58
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Re: Insufflated Methylone

hmmm...so it's not worth...swim's thought was to lower the dose...he didn't care much about fasting onset...

so, let's keep oral admin
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Re: Insufflated Methylone

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SWIM finds the speed of onset to be much greater with insufflated methylone, almost immediate. Other than that though, he didn't find many other benefits. Doesn't seem to hit any harder or last longer, and the large-ish quantities involved aren't very convenient. Typically SWIM will start out the evening insufflating, but won't keep it up for long. Or he'll just do a line occasionally for the psychological effects of the taste/drip.
Hah! swim has found himself in situations doing low dosage "pretend boosters" snorting just to remind himself of cocaine.
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Re: Insufflated Methylone

I didn't notice any difference to either the duration or power. However insufflating phenethylamines generally is not good due to the unpleasant side effects and possible nasal burn. MDMA in particular I found quite horrible snorted and given no difference in potency wouldn't do it again. Methylone I suspect would be similar though I've only snorted relatively low doses of that one.
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Old 13-02-2007, 17:05
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Re: Insufflated Methylone

SWIM finds methylone fairly easy on the nose. Really, it would be decent for insufflating if it didn't require such quantities for a good high (e.g. 150-200mg)... the relatively low potency makes this method of admin impractical.
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Re: Insufflated Methylone

swim found that as low as 50mg's of M1 was active insufflated. most notable is the speed of onset in swims opinion but swim thinks the most convenient thing about insufflation is the ease at redosing and the ability to start low and work up to the level you want to be at instead of committing to a single dose.
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Re: Insufflated Methylone

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Hah! swim has found himself in situations doing low dosage "pretend boosters" snorting just to remind himself of cocaine.
haha.. and swim thought he was the only one. Has swiy ever tried mixing methylone with coke? 3 to 1 ratio. Quite nice

So first just a bit about swims take on methylone. Ride lasts max 3 hours (if no boosting is involved) and the stimulation, light euphoria, and almost lost empathy kick in all at once. For him there are no stages like with nearly all other substances.
.....Anyways he starts off with an oral dose of 250-300mg, then roughly 2 and 1/2 hours in he will allow himself up to 100 mg of boosting material. Swim would say he starts with the nasal route @ 10 mg every 10 or 15 min ?after peak?, hard to say peak cause he cannot really speak of any peak during his methylone experiences. The stimulation and low fat euphoria are the main things swim loves about methylone, and both come on @ the same time, and exit together as well. Nothing really builds up, the methylone just seems to all of a sudden hit him, and sustain the same intensity till come-down.


So to answer your question (finally)

"For everyone who tried methylone:
insufflated(or nasal vaporizing) administratin does boost the effects, lowers the dosage, or lenghten the experience?"


"insufflated(or nasal vaporizing) administratin does boost the effects"?

For swim it boosts the stimulation greatly, but no euphoria comes back when it leaves after the first 4 hours. Redosing more just kust keeps his vibe from being offset by come-down until he can sleep. It's interesting because no matter how much swim redoses nasally his pupils do not dilate any more.. only when taken orally. And if none is taken orally... just insufflated. Then no euphoria or thoughts of well being really come about, just very cocaine like stimulation... and swim can get coke cheaper than methylone.

"lowers the dosage"?

Yes but also lowers the duration big time. If one wants full effects of methylone take it orally first. Then bring out the credit card and cd case.



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Ok so this whole conversation tempted swim to try more methylone tonight via insufflation in combination with dose of bzp (150mg oral @ 2 hours before methylone starts going up the snifferino). The results were just as expected. The borderline euphoria from the bzp is heightened incredibly, almost too much at one point after insufflating 50mg x each nostril, 10 minutes later swim was.. we'll happy.. real happy. so happy that well, actually he's still quite happy. He cannot close his mouth because of his tmj condition (in short... his jaw stays open if he holds it in 1 position for too long, and his teeth sometimes grind while sleeping unknowingly).
And his crooked smile looks pretty goofy. Anyways he has about an hour to go so I'll leave him to his slowly depleting receptors.

250mg Bzp, 50mg x 2 methylone to each nostril 30 min apart = b-b-b-oing

Ok 45 min later swim assured me he needed 50 more mg. He explained it was just an experiment as he forgot he had 2 boxes of canisters w/ 10 nitrous in each
he was told by a local fellow great tales of methylone and duster.. yes i couldn't believe it either. Those are the caliber of people getting access to rc's.. he had to put it out of his mind as to not get frustrated about it.. theres nothing he can do. Altho this is where swim got the idea of bringin in the nitro's.

All swim can say is methylone + nitrous.. im sure the same could be said for 2c-b, mbma etc, w/ nitrous but mama mia, swim was incapacitated and full body euphoric orgasm. Complete with foot shakes and his skinny limp torso slunking in his patio chair outside. The loss of all inhibitions and absolutely nothing matters euphoria following each n2o one-shot, lasted a good 2-3 minutes. This meeting of 2 new ally's is truley something special, and will greatly help with the costs of being a new found prisoner to this brown sugar temptress.

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Re: Insufflated Methylone (bk-MDMA)

what is a good starting dose for methylone, if one wants to feel the effects, but doesnt want to be "high" (like other people not being able to tell he took something apart from just being in a good mood and maybe a lil drunk) ?? insufflated as well as oral would be interesting for SWIM
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Re: Insufflated Methylone (bk-MDMA)

SWIM thinks Insufflated was a big time waist of time for swim. SWIM says It was very morish and not better. SWIM always enjoyed either oral or rectal. SWIM says Rectal being more high less time, oral being less high longer time. SWIM says Oral was a nice dose at or around 180-220mgs. For a less intense high SWIM would imagine effects can be felt orally around 100-150mgs.
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Re: Insufflated Methylone (bk-MDMA)

The one problem with moderate dosing is that if one's monkey doses too low with methylone, it merely causes a craving for more. Also, a good active dose of 150-200mg will dilate SWIM's monkey's pupils to a noticable extent. otherwise, it is easy to act normal while in that range. Past that SWIM may be a bit jumpy and / or overenthusiastic about things.
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Re: Insufflated Methylone (bk-MDMA)

Okay sorry, I mean if SWIM took this, I can't find the edit button sorry

flashy added 11 Minutes and 50 Seconds later...

So, again this question:

hi guys please help SWIM

when SWIM take 200mg methylone, when should SWIM redose? the duration for SWIM of 185mg methylone is around 2,5 hours (max.) SWIM plan to do it oral.

should SWIM take 250mg after 2 hours or only 150mg or does anyone have experiences with redosing?


thx!

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Re: Insufflated Methylone (bk-MDMA)

The search engine will reveal a lot of data about this. May people feel re-dosing with bk-MDMA/ methylone is a waste as the second dose has a different effect, more wired and not so euphoric. Others like to re-dose after a few hours, according to individual preference.
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Re: Insufflated Methylone (bk-MDMA)

There is no real answer to that other than when one feels comfortable of up/re-dosing. There are reports of Methylone being much less effective when re-dosing after an hour of the first dose or with doses which are smaller than the original.

My little fishy who has now used Methylone on a few occasions would dose 300mg followed by the same (or more) again 1-1.5 hours later. However, what little fishy is comfortable with won't hold true for others.

Recommendation based on what you have said would be 200mg first dose followed by a re-dose of 250-275mg as soon as comfortable with upping.

EDIT: Posted at exactly the same time as enquirewithin, I've just reiterated points his already made.

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Re: Insufflated Methylone (bk-MDMA)

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....My little fishy who has now used Methylone on a few occasions would dose 300mg followed by the same (or more) again 1-1.5 hours later. However, what little fishy is comfortable with won't hold true for others.

Recommendation based on what you have said would be 200mg first dose followed by a re-dose of 250-275mg as soon as comfortable with upping.

EDIT: Posted at exactly the same time as enquirewithin, I've just reiterated points his already made.
My rats agree. The main problem is that with that kind of re-dosing, the hangover and sleeplessness can get annoying! With a single dose, the after effects are marginal.
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Re: Insufflated Methylone (bk-MDMA)

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My rats agree. The main problem is that with that kind of re-dosing, the hangover and sleeplessness can get annoying! With a single dose, the after effects are marginal.
Completely agree, but you know how it gets when SWIY is having a wonderful time you don't want to end any time soon!

EDIT: To be honest my little fishy says it is no where near as bad for comedown/sleep as more powerful chemicals like MDA/MDMA. The worst part was the slight mental exhaustion and laziness the next day from heavy dosing (with Alcohol), but every up must have it's down, and everyone is different.

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