Alone with Ecstasy

[pankreeas]

You are saying 2 different things man.. washing hands of this one...

[CRUNK]

Originally Posted by pankreeas

You are saying 2 different things man.. washing hands of this one...

How am I saying to different things? Prove me wrong then.

[Psych0naut]

SWIM absolutely hates it to be alone when on MDMA. He sometimes comes home alone after partying all night long, and still under influence.
It's an absolute torment for him to be alone when under influence of MDMA, he wants to socialize and talk with other people.
After a while it get's to the point he starts calling everybody up to try and find someone who is still up to go to.
If he can't find anyone who is still up he will just knock himself out with a heap of benzo's because he can't stand rolling alone.

[DigitalAngel]

What ever feels good for SWIY. It's a very presonal experienece thats different for each person. For SWIM it depends on what s going on in his life, how he's feeling and what he wants from the particular experienece.

Sometimes a night alone with the PC, music and his mind is perfect and sometimes he wants to natter complete bollocks and feel at one with fellow amigos whilst inventing new machines to unleash the potential energy from floating a large over-sized ballon into the vaccum of space...I digress....

SWIM can understand your concern of addiction but from what you've said you sound like you have sound perspective.

Waiting for a rave may be better as SWIY may meet a fellow roller to appreciate the finer effects with, make new dropping friends maybe..?

just a thought....

enjoy and stay safe

[namooP]

I was under the impression that bad E trips were caused by bad pills?

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by namooP

I was under the impression that bad E trips were caused by bad pills?

Set and setting play a large role, mostly set I believe. Swim has seen a good amount of people have "bad" rolls, though these can be beneficial as well, they just aren't as much fun. People dealing with sexual abuse issues or PTSD or some other psychological trauma also probably don't have really great rolls (seen plenty of anecdotal on this) but they are extremely helpful in the end, even though it might be alot to endure.

[CRUNK]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

People dealing with sexual abuse issues or PTSD or some other psychological trauma also probably don't have really great rolls (seen plenty of anecdotal on this) but they are extremely helpful in the end, even though it might be alot to endure.

One of my friends got raped, and she tried rolling 8 times, and could not get a roll off of it. Yeah it's pretty sad. But she's able to do it now with no problems. I think all rapist's should be shot.

[The Doors]

SWIM is not the most experienced roller and he will admit to that, but from his understanding, Ecstacy makes you see what is already there. You don't have too think, it just comes to you and you see it. SWIM also believes what you are seeking in your experience will greatly influence it.

SWIM is definetely going to try rolling by himself even though he loves to talk to other people while he is rolling, that's all he seems to do, haha! Every mind that is alone will be in tendency to think more, even more so while under the influence so if you are seeking a spiritual and insightful experience, E or other drugs for that matter, can be quite beneficial.

[Nagognog2]

A "bad trip" on MDMA is characterized by a free-floating anxiety attack - one just feels like a nervous wreck and wants it to wear off/go away. This can happen due to poor setting (which varies from person to person. One person's sacred altar is another person's psycho-ward), unresolved psychic baggage in need of attention, and being anxious and nervous to begin with. It happens.

However, taking too large a dose of MDMA (and similar) will also cause this. Instead of the entactogenic catharsis one is expecting - Raver-Z took 200+ milligrams and feels like they are awaiting a root-canal operation. Yuck!

[MinorityReport]

Rolling alone is a thing to try, when you do this you can try everything you wouldnt do with friends or at party : shower / wanking etc. , never did it but most of the time when swim came home from rolling with chicks he was still rolling and had the chance to try some stuff

[pankreeas]

Swim just rolled alone last night and can definetly re-iterate how much better it is for him with noone else around. Swim has not come across one drug that will "let him go" per say.. all his inhibitions behind him, anxiety, etc... which is the main reason he experiments alone. If a state of anxiety is brought on while on E, or anything but pot really, swim has been known to freak out.

[Akewstick]

SWIM's room is immaculate thanks to ecstacy, ecstacy is also responsible for the incredibly patterned swirly letters cut out of paper with highliter penned-illumination that spell out the words "DON'T LET THE MAN GET YOU DOWN" around the top of his bedroom wall, and the countless strange things cut out of magazines stuck everywhere (SWIM's room has directions of how to smash the windows of a train in case of a crash stuck around his mirror. He has a 6X4 foot Union Jack that he stole from a random garden, stuck on the wall, slashed to ribbons, with a picture of Robert Plant in the middle, and a knife buried into the wall, through the flag).

There's isn't anything in SWIM's room that isn't in alphabetical order, Ecstacy alone prompts SWIM to dedicate himself to mundane tasks with incredible dedication and excitement. Great times tidying under your bed, sweeping, blue-tacking, folding clothes, lining up chairs with edges of desks.

Once upon a time, ecstacy would make SWIM sit with arms and legs tangled up in someone else's for hours and hours talking about how they were soul mates and were going to spend their lives together, but those days are gone. A hug or someone to rest your head on is still great on ecstacy, but only as good as being alone and listening to music and performing everyday tasks, housework, cooking, drinking flavoured vodka.

Ecstacy alone is incredible!

[VitaminK22]

errr one questions... wot stops u from pillin with friends who dont take xtc? or pillin with ur friends who do coke instead? i can understand if non of ur friends take drugs cos i no how horrible it is to feel like ur the only 1 whos wrecked, but pillin while ur friend do other drugs is fun

[namooP]

Friends who dont do drugs are the last people you should go pilling with in my experience, for what I thought were obvious reasons.

[VitaminK22]

lol swim has pilled once with a few friends who dont do any drugs and it was the worst thing he has ever experienced with drugs. it made him very paranoid cos wenever 1 of them laughed at somethin, swim thought they were laughin at him cos he kept thinkin the pills would make him do somethin stupid. also wen on pill swim feels like talkin alot and wen u talk complete shit to sobar ppl they giv u a funny look, especially if u forget wot u was talkin about half way through.

NEVER PILL WITH PPL WHO DONT DO DRUGS!!! unless ur with at least 1 person who is takin pills with u.

[xtzy]

hey ! thanks for the replies, SWIM did it alone once more (good trip).

About 2 weeks ago SWIM convince his friends to give them a try one more time (SWIM got them some awsome pills). They were at SWIM house, with 4 friends rolling and 3 girlfriends smoking some weed = D . They loved it hhaha actually they did it for 2 days in a row and it was fantastic. SWIM is looking foward for the next roll, maybe in a month or two...

Sorry for the delayed reply !
Final Thought: Doing E alone is a great thing to do for one time only, Its alot better to dance, talk, etc. with some friends or going to a rave/music festival.

[xtzy]

Originally Posted by VitaminK22

NEVER PILL WITH PPL WHO DONT DO DRUGS!!! unless ur with at least 1 person who is takin pills with u.

I Agree ! .

[Spiffster]

Originally Posted by xtzy

I Agree ! .

I double agree

[Nacumen]

SWIM would expect that rolling for him now would be pointless. SWIM can no longer get a buzz off of amphetamines and sometimes even coke if he is doing them alone. SWIM couldn't imagine rolls being much better.

[augentier]

SWIM has rolled twice by herself and immensely enjoyed both times. It basically comes down to how you feel about being your own company and how you can occupy your time while rolling.

[Bajeda]

Swim has tried using MDMA in an isolated setting, but he always ends up going out and finding people to hang out with. Its simply too social a drug, and swim feels that unless he is forcibly isolated, such as being somewhere where he doesn't know anyone, he would have to fight off social urges to be able to roll by himself.

Basically by this point, swim feels that he may roll by himself in the future, hopefully doing some introspection and writing out some ideas so its more worthwhile, but he won't attempt it unless he feels he can create the right set and setting, as otherwise he will go out and seek people to chill with and any plans for setting will be neglected. Props to the people who can roll alone without any trouble, but also caution, in that its easier to do it more often if you don't do it with other people.

[Spiffster]

swim rolled alone once before... got bored... killed buzz... went to bed.

[JumpinJackFlash]

What an interesting concept, and until the past few minutes SWIM had never even thought about doing MDMA alone. Taking MDMA alone seems to SWIM to be a kind of unwritten taboo in drugs culture, it was a drug created by a social scene and so will always belong there, in the majority of cases at least.

SWIM has never tried this, but if he did he would most likely reach for the nearest phone or computer and talk to someone at the very least. Doing it indoors with only the standard drug users equipment of music and DVDs would also not work for SWIM because a) SWIM would be dancing in his room alone like an idiot and B) Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas wouldn't really complement the Euphoria. Perhaps a walk, or nature would be good, but this would be all to tranquil, would probably kill SWIMs buzz.

Then again, SWIM has never tried this, perhaps its more a social drug, or perhaps that's just the image that society has built for SWIM. Dr "I like to get messy" Shulgin did it alone, and looked at wood piles and mountains....bet he wanted a fat drum and base rave mind.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by JumpinJackFlash

SWIM has never tried this, but if he did he would most likely reach for the nearest phone or computer and talk to someone at the very least.

Swim has tried to do it at least three times, and every time thats what happened to him.

I think he would have to be in an isolated setting out in nature or something to really be able to accomplish it, and also to have a good experience with it.

[Beta]

Sun and nature is good for swim under mdma (schrooms are good too) but it is even better with an ipod and good headphones .