Opinions - Whats the most euphoric sleeping pill and/or benzo

[matthewfoo]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

Did SWIY ever try Rohypnol(flunitrazepam)? If so, how did he compare it to Mogadon(nitrazepam) and Erimin-5(nimetazepam)?

hey sorry for the late reply, no flunitrazepams are not legal here, but swim pretty sure after reading up alot about midazolams, midazolams are the closest to roph. swim's IVed and taken dormicum orally and its nothing euphoric at all, and i think swim did mention in another thread that IV just gave a slight rush but nothing near fun. The only nitras available here are the brand nitrdos by a NZ co. called Douglas, they are relatively cheap and very enjoyable with opiates,esp codeine. Original Erimin that are from japan are just slightly more potent than nitras. As for fake erimins, they are actually pretty much more enjoyable, simply coz bakers add a host of other illicit drugs. A friend of swim that swim met while serving time in prison was caught with fake erimins. and upon tests, the narcotics dept confrimed that there were traces of Ketamine and yaba(cheap thai version of speed) and no amount of nimetazepam at all, tho the packaging is 95% similar to originals. So swim's friend is back in again, and this time 5 years coz they charged him for ketamine and yaba(which is why alot of ppl like the fake ones better), its very sad actually coz he had no idea the contents of counterfeit. if swiy enjoy roph, then swiy will enjoy dorms. to ans ur qn, swim is certain that the experience is totally different rophynol vs mogadon. roph like dorm, is a date rape drug that usually causes amnesia, always happens to me when swim does dorms, swim keeps dorms as stanby for opiate or upper comedown. nitras and ermins can be taken on its own and still be enjoyable swims opinion. Its like a cross between xannie(alprazolam) and diazepam(valium). with nitra or nimetazepam, swim get the best of both worlds. xannies buzz come on fast that why they are nice, but they end early too, valiums last longer, but is less potent in terms of buzz. nitra and erimins is like a combo of both, making it very enjoyable to swim. This is just swim's opinion after having done all benzos that are available here. benzo range here is very limited, say less than 10 types. hope that ans ur qn. cheers

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by WashHeights187

I wasn't aware of that Rocks...so xanax is something of a commodity in the U.K.? Is it highly sought after? I would imagine so, whenever something is in limited supply it usually is. Same thing in neighboring countries? I'm under the impression( perhaps wrongly?) that The Netherlands is where one can obtain virtually anything. this is what an associate of mine from Newcastle, U.K. had told me once, maybe he was referring more to the "club drugs" and the usual suspects like bud and smack ?

You're under the wrong impression then. Opioids are hard to come by in the Netherlands, strong prescription opioids are exotic threats and unknown to the majority of drug users in the Netherlands. Benzo's are still reasonable easy to get a prescription for, but that's it regarding prescription drugs. Illegal drugs aren't very easy to obtain either, like everywhere else, you have to know the right people, which can take years to find. The usuall things aren't very hard to aquire, stuff like MDMA, amphetamine and cocaine, and a bit of ketamine and GHB as well, but that's it. There are so many things on SWIMs wishlist which he doubt he'll ever aquire, barbiturates, fentanyl derivatives, hydro/oxymorphone and so on.

[matthewfoo]

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

Anyone have any suggestions as to what swim should buy if he wanted a really euphoric high from a benzo or sleeping pill??? Swim is thinkin about getting midazolam... is this a decent euphoric high???

swim has been on diazepams, nimetazepams(erimin), midazolams(dormicum roche), nitrazepams, alprazolams, and swim feels strongly that dormicum is the least euphoric or enjoyable benzo, tho it packs a good knock out if swiy needs to slp after bad comedown. nitrazepams and erimins are swim's favorite benzo,

[Psych0naut]

Rohypnol(flunitrazepam) is the only benzo that made me euphoric in it's prescribed medical doses and the only benzo which is euphoric when taken orally, even compared to 15 other benzo's in all kinds of doses. After having it taken in high doses on prescription for almost 2 months now, Rohypnol has me in a vice-like grip. I just got my final prescription yesterday, next friday hell is going to start, and withdrawl will show it's ugly head. Take it from me, the best of all benzo's can turn into the worst pretty quickly.

It would have been almost predictable before flunitrazepam was first made that making a hybrid of two long acting hypnotics of which one already has a very fast come-up, a magical benzo would arise. Flunitrazepam, the very long lasting, very fact acting, very potent superhypnotic. Too bad it's so addictive.

[testodan]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

Rohypnol(flunitrazepam) is the only benzo that made me euphoric in it's prescribed medical doses and the only benzo which is euphoric when taken orally, even compared to 15 other benzo's in all kinds of doses. After having it taken in high doses on prescription for almost 2 months now, Rohypnol has me in a vice-like grip. I just got my final prescription yesterday, next friday hell is going to start, and withdrawl will show it's ugly head. Take it from me, the best of all benzo's can turn into the worst pretty quickly.

It would have been almost predictable before flunitrazepam was first made that making a hybrid of two long acting hypnotics of which one already has a very fast come-up, a magical benzo would arise. Flunitrazepam, the very long lasting, very fact acting, very potent superhypnotic. Too bad it's so addictive.

Why do you think is more addictive than the others?
BTW I have over 8 boxes sitting in my home

[Psych0naut]

Because it's both mentally and physically very addictive. Mentally because of the euphoric effects when abused and even at medical doses, but also because it's such a powerfull hypnotic, you soon start to think you can't sleep without it because you're used to the luxury of taking a Roofie and comfortly drifting to sleep in a haze. And ofcourse the physical part. It's an extremely powerfull benzodiazepine, and with very powerfull benzodiazepines comes potentially very powerfull physical addiction.

[JaWill88]

swim has heard lorazepam mentioned once or twice and must say it is THE WORST benzodiazpine swim has tried. he has tried same equivelant dosage (twice as much) to clonazepam and would rather have clonazepam any day of the week, but then again thats just swim. swim just had to say as he figured lorazepam would be the last benzo mentioned in this thread. swim just doesn't get much out of them for some reason. they make him a tad bit sleepier than equivelant dose of clonazepam but that's probably because of the short half life as swim notices shorter acting ones (like alprazolam) having a little more intensity for a shorter duration than the mediums and longs. is lorazepam a skeletal muscle relaxant? swim sure knows clonazepam is. swim thinks that clonazepam and diazepam are the best, and that is probably mainly due to the muscle relaxant effects as well as. and although short acing benzos seem to pack a little more punch which may add some extra euphoria, swim notices he likes the longer acting onces a little better, usually. this is because swim hates taking a benzo that will either put him to sleep, and/or be done in a matter of just like 3 or 4 hours (Xanax/alprazolam). swim also notices that there is a thinner line between not really getting high/desired effects and being put to sleep with shorter acting benzodiazepines, once again probably due to half life. swim would rather have a long, drawn out to good duration, but not too hypnotic putting him to sleep feeling, with muslce relaxant effects. it doesn't get any better for swim than that.

[testodan]

Originally Posted by JaWill88

swim has heard lorazepam mentioned once or twice and must say it is THE WORST benzodiazpine swim has tried. he has tried same equivelant dosage (twice as much) to clonazepam and would rather have clonazepam any day of the week, but then again thats just swim. swim just had to say as he figured lorazepam would be the last benzo mentioned in this thread. swim just doesn't get much out of them for some reason. they make him a tad bit sleepier than equivelant dose of clonazepam but that's probably because of the short half life as swim notices shorter acting ones (like alprazolam) having a little more intensity for a shorter duration than the mediums and longs. is lorazepam a skeletal muscle relaxant? swim sure knows clonazepam is. swim thinks that clonazepam and diazepam are the best, and that is probably mainly due to the muscle relaxant effects as well as. and although short acing benzos seem to pack a little more punch which may add some extra euphoria, swim notices he likes the longer acting onces a little better, usually. this is because swim hates taking a benzo that will either put him to sleep, and/or be done in a matter of just like 3 or 4 hours (Xanax/alprazolam). swim also notices that there is a thinner line between not really getting high/desired effects and being put to sleep with shorter acting benzodiazepines, once again probably due to half life. swim would rather have a long, drawn out to good duration, but not too hypnotic putting him to sleep feeling, with muslce relaxant effects. it doesn't get any better for swim than that.

Lorazepam is an antiemetic too...

[Jatelka]

I'd like a source for that statement testodan. I keep seeing it, but never a source.

[testodan]

Originally Posted by Jatelka

I'd like a source for that statement testodan. I keep seeing it, but never a source.

Sure my Queen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorazepam

[Psych0naut]

Erowid also mentions at it's main Lorazepam page that it's used off-label as anti-emetic for cancer patients after chemo therapy.

[soma]

Yep, SWIM has been prescribed lorazepam for vomiting during bad migraines. No clue why SWIM's doc didn't just write for some promethazine, but not complaining.

Anyway, SWIM really wants to try Rohypnol (flunitrazepam). How does this compare to, say, Alprazolam or Temazepam? SWIM takes mega-doses of alprazolam (8mg) and gets insanely euphoric but his memory is a bit worse for wear. Keep in mind he is also heavily benzo-tolerant.

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by soma

Anyway, SWIM really wants to try Rohypnol (flunitrazepam). How does this compare to, say, Alprazolam or Temazepam? SWIM takes mega-doses of alprazolam (8mg) and gets insanely euphoric but his memory is a bit worse for wear. Keep in mind he is also heavily benzo-tolerant.

SWIM was heavily benzodiazepine tolerant (300mg+ of diazepam a day in the past). Flunitrazepam hit him hard, just 2 x 2mg tablets were enough. It was amazing.

[Psych0naut]

Rohypnol(flunitrazepam) is generally regarded as the most euphoric benzo of all. It's the only one that causes profound euphoria when taken orally by test subjects. It's even more unique because it even causes profound euphoria at medical doses, this subsides after a few days of use though, but it still stays euphoric when taken in recreational doses. SWIM thinks it is somewhat comparable to temazepam, though flunitrazepam is still king of all. Alprazolam is a bit more different from flunitrazepam, mainly because of flunitrazepam being an hypnotic and alprazolam an anxiolytic, and flunitrazepam gives a proper "flash". Roofies are the bomb, unless you're addicted to them ..

[Jatelka]

can we keep this on topic please folks?

"Most euphoric sleeping pill and/or benzo"

[heroin_ed]

Temazepam.

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by heroin_ed

Temazepam.

The old skool 30mg temazepam gel capsules, ahh those where the days. It is one of SWIM's favourites after flunitrazepam (Rohypnol).

It caused alot of social problems in the UK at the time, and eventually they were removed from the market. This probably explains the UK's strange legal classification of temazepam as opposed to other benzodiazepines.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by rocksmokinmachine

The old skool 30mg temazepam gel capsules, ahh those where the days. It is one of SWIM's favourites after flunitrazepam (Rohypnol).

It caused alot of social problems in the UK at the time, and eventually they were removed from the market. This probably explains the UK's strange legal classification of temazepam as opposed to other benzodiazepines.

Not just the UK, same in Australia as well IIRC, flunitrazepam and temazepam are more strictly regulated than the other benzo's there as well, and in the US, temazepam is the only benzodiazepine for which a special prescription is needed in some states. Other countries have put a tighter regulation on temazepam and flunitrazepam as well, because of their high abuse factor.

[wackncrack]

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

Anyone have any suggestions as to what swim should buy if he wanted a really euphoric high from a benzo or sleeping pill??? Swim is thinkin about getting midazolam... is this a decent euphoric high???

IMHO

Helcion~