Opinions - Whats the most euphoric sleeping pill and/or benzo

[soma]

For my kitten:

1. Temazepam
2. Alprazolam
3. Lorazepam

(and this is out of a list of the following: Temazepam, Alprazolam, Lorazepam, Clonazepam, Diazepam, Oxazepam, & Midazolam. It should be noted that my kitten cannot remember any of the midazolam experiences, so they could be good, but cannot be sure.)

[flying2]

erimin-5 , trizolam , midazolam

[merc11292]

i dont think anyone mentioned miltown (meprobamate) it was a top seller back in the 50's i believe. swim has never tried it, but swim has tried soma which metabolizes into meprobamate. i bevieve its been almost completely replaced by benzos but if some one can find a doc to give miltown swim's sure itd be worth a try.

[chrisdahl]

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

Anyone have any suggestions as to what swim should buy if he wanted a really euphoric high from a benzo

Lorazepam

[wearestardust]

Nimetazepam, temazepam, alprazolam, diazepam (but 50mg+ required).
The first-named is by far the most euphoric, but the hardest to get hold of.
We are Stardust

I notice someone a few posts up has mentioned Erimin-5. That's actually a brand-name, not a drug. It is, in fact, the elusive NIMETAZEPAM.
We Are Stardust

[chrisdahl]

SWIM would say Ativan,its abot the only sleeper,along with Xanax,SWIM can have a giggle on

Originally Posted by mrphucker

SWIM would say Ativan,its abot the only sleeper,along with Xanax,SWIM can have a giggle on

lorazepam i mean

[wearestardust]

Hi Phucker,
I wouldn't go so far as to call lorazepam or alprazolam sleepers... anxiety meds, sure, but not sleepers. Although taking a huge dose of either would certainly have that effect!
WAStardust

[testodan]

Originally Posted by wearestardust

Hi Phucker,
I wouldn't go so far as to call lorazepam or alprazolam sleepers... anxiety meds, sure, but not sleepers. Although taking a huge dose of either would certainly have that effect!
WAStardust

wearestartdust,
This pill in SWIY's Avatar isn't the oldest version of flunitrazepam or just the nitrzepam.Swim thinks in Greece before some decades we had 5mg flunitrazepam.Now have 1and 2 mg.

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[wearestardust]

Testodan,
The pill in SWIM's avatar is actually a 5mg Roche Valium! My flunitrazepam picture was too large to use as an avatar; it was the green Roche 1mg marked '542'.
W>A>Stardust

[billbryan]

Originally Posted by wearestardust

Hi Phucker,
I wouldn't go so far as to call lorazepam or alprazolam sleepers... anxiety meds, sure, but not sleepers. Although taking a huge dose of either would certainly have that effect!
WAStardust

Swim aquired some 10mg midazolam. Circular flat pills imprinted 'AREM' on on side and it was a morter and pestal on the other,

Can someone please help me ID the med? I am almost positive it is nitrazepam; I am was more interested if they were 5 mg or 10 mg pills.

[billbryan]

[QUOTE]I notice someone a few posts up has mentioned Erimin-5. That's actually a brand-name, not a drug. It is, in fact, the elusive NIMETAZEPAM.
[QUOTE]

Swim aquired some 10mg midazolam; or at least that what is was told. I have no reason to believe they are 5mg and not 10mg and I can not imagine the guy lying to me unless he forgot the original dose or was told/thought they were 10 mg pills. Anyway, I have not been able to fid out any information about these. They could be 5mg, they could be 10mg, they could be another substance besides nitrazepam I don'treally know.

Any help ID'ing the pills and dose (5mg or 10mg) will be greatly appreciated. They are white, circular flat pills, a little bigger than the size of a nickel, but thicker. They are printed 'AREM' on one side and it has a morter and pestal engraving covering the entire other, side.

Can someone please help me ID the med? I am positive it is nitrazepam; What I do not know if they are if the 5 mg or 10 mg pills.

[Jatelka]

^^^ For about the hundredth time! THIS IS NOT A PILL ID SITE.

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haha..some people don't listen

[Jatelka]

FFS! No people cannot help you id the pill. (even for a newbie)

As stated before this is NOT a pill id site. The reason we don't do pill id is harm reduction. White circular flat pills could be one thing where you are and something else entirely where my flamingo is.

If you want pill id: Go somewhere else.

[billbryan]

OK NO ID. Do not try to idea the oill in my post above.

Can I get people to decribe the common shape, size, color and imprints of nitrazepam pills and how many mg per?

thanks

[Jatelka]

No you can't, because it's still pill id.

Please don't persist with this: Any further posts will be deleted.

Back on Topic: What's the Most Euphoric Sleeping Pill and/or Benzo?

[rocksmokinmachine]

Intermediate acting benzodiazepines

Temazepam has to SWIM's favourite, the 30mg 'jelly' types were the best although no longer in production.

SWIM once had the pleasure of sampling secobarbitol, which he can't remember much of.

[Psych0naut]

What year was it in SWIY sampled secobarbital? The only barbiturate still available for prescription in the Netherlands is phenobarbital, others are still used, but only either as pre-anesthetics in hospitals, or for euthanasia...

Back on topic, for SWIM it's still Rohypnol(flunitrazepam), even after having sampled some more different hypnotic benzo's. After Roofies it's Normison(temazepam) Weirdly he doesn't find the 3 strongest benzodiazepines around, Dormicum(midazolam), Halcion(triazolam) and Lendormin(brotizolam) special in any way, it just wipes out SWIMs memory, nothing more than that.

[rocksmokinmachine]

SWIM is not native to The Netherlands, this was back in UK when SWIM was 14

"Reds" we used to call them back then, though we had no idea what they were other than they made you feel intoxicated

[zerodxm]

Bromazepam for sure !!

[WashHeights187]

I wasn't aware of that Rocks...so xanax is something of a commodity in the U.K.? Is it highly sought after? I would imagine so, whenever something is in limited supply it usually is. Same thing in neighboring countries? I'm under the impression( perhaps wrongly?) that The Netherlands is where one can obtain virtually anything. this is what an associate of mine from Newcastle, U.K. had told me once, maybe he was referring more to the "club drugs" and the usual suspects like bud and smack ?

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by WashHeights187

I wasn't aware of that Rocks...so xanax is something of a commodity in the U.K.? Is it highly sought after? I would imagine so, whenever something is in limited supply it usually is. Same thing in neighboring countries? I'm under the impression( perhaps wrongly?) that The Netherlands is where one can obtain virtually anything. this is what an associate of mine from Newcastle, U.K. had told me once, maybe he was referring more to the "club drugs" and the usual suspects like bud and smack ?

Most drug users in the UK don't know what Xanax (Alprazolam) is, so it is not really sought after. The most common benzodiazepine available is Valium (diazepam) colloquially known as "vallies". Very rarely temazepam is available in 20mg tablets, and nitrazepam is 5mg tablets (the 10mg tablets are no longer available on NHS prescription).

You are correct in saying that drugs are easier to come by in the Netherlands (as opposed to other countries). As everyone is aware there is an abundancy of all sorts of weed and hash, and also smart drugs. Synthetic drugs like MDMA and amphetamines are manufactured usually in the south of the country or in neighbouring countries. Rotterdam in particular is also a transit point for drugs being imported and distributed on to the European market (such as heroin and cocaine).

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Thanks for the international / cultural context

[matthewfoo]

On the topic of nimetazepam (Erimin-5), swim gets them for about XXX per slab of 10 5mg tabs. 1USD = 1.4+SGD. Swim's from Singapore and there are a handfull of pte clinics that stock them. Swim used to get 3 slabs at a go. the Docs are extremely careful when dispensing them. max prescribed dosage is 1 tab per day/night. Its extremely expensive, purely because they are Japanese produce. Erimin - 5, as it states quite obviously, only comes in 5mg nimetazepam tabs sealed in reddish slab. Erimins are predominantly available in asian countries. local clinics that stock them, get them directly imported from Japan. Black market ones are99% counterfeits from Malaysia/taiwan and some other asian countries. Most counterfeits are categorised by numbers that are imprinted on the seal/wrap - 192(very much sought after mid to late 90s because there a concoction of different benzos and sometimes yaba(thai version of speed) ; 193 ; and now 194 is about the only black market erimins available in South east Asia, mostly produced in Malaysia. I got aquinted with some junior officers in the local Narcotics Bureau, and accordring to them, 99% of black market erimin5s do not contain any nimetazepam at all. they go for about XXX per slab of 10 and usually give a more potent and lasting euphoria as compared to original Japanese Erimin5s. The originals do not have any numbers on the seals, but expiry date instead. How and why the cheaper counterfeits are more enjoyable to users/abusers is unclear, and is most likely that its produce with traces of ketamin and/or yaba. Swim prefers the more economical nitrazepams, only available and approved brand in Singapore is Douglas, NZ. comes only in 5mg doses at a cost range of XXX per tab. Swim gets a good feeling of contentment and carefree feel with about 4-5 tabs of nitras, pretty much comparable to a tab of Original erimin5s. most ppl swim knows who take Erimins usually finish the entire slab in a day, which is crazily expensive, they usually clinic hop. Nimetazies and Nitras would be my choice. Sometimes taking nitras with some diazepam(Apotex) gives Swim a more lasting and enjoyable kick. Law in Singapore is hard, esp on narcotics, so swim only does prescribed meds. Local Gov have suspended the licenses of many GPs and clinics for over prescribing meds(usually Erimin5s and/or Dormicum (midazolam) ). Many junkies usually mix them with Heroin or Subutex ( buprenorphine ) before shooting, making nimetazepam the only classified benzo illegal to consume or possess without prescription - that would most defintely lead to serving time in prison.

[rocksmokinmachine]

This goes for alot of countries in Europe. Alot of counterfeit diazepam is being produced. For example d/10, dz/10, or the name of a pharamceutical company on the back. The ones that have been anaylised only contain around 2mg of diazepam. These usally never come in a packet.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by matthewfoo

On the topic of nimetazepam (Erimin-5), swim gets them for about XXX per slab of 10 5mg tabs. 1USD = 1.4+SGD. Swim's from Singapore and there are a handfull of pte clinics that stock them. Swim used to get 3 slabs at a go. the Docs are extremely careful when dispensing them. max prescribed dosage is 1 tab per day/night. Its extremely expensive, purely because they are Japanese produce. Erimin - 5, as it states quite obviously, only comes in 5mg nimetazepam tabs sealed in reddish slab. Erimins are predominantly available in asian countries. local clinics that stock them, get them directly imported from Japan. Black market ones are99% counterfeits from Malaysia/taiwan and some other asian countries. Most counterfeits are categorised by numbers that are imprinted on the seal/wrap - 192(very much sought after mid to late 90s because there a concoction of different benzos and sometimes yaba(thai version of speed) ; 193 ; and now 194 is about the only black market erimins available in South east Asia, mostly produced in Malaysia. I got aquinted with some junior officers in the local Narcotics Bureau, and accordring to them, 99% of black market erimin5s do not contain any nimetazepam at all. they go for about XXX per slab of 10 and usually give a more potent and lasting euphoria as compared to original Japanese Erimin5s. The originals do not have any numbers on the seals, but expiry date instead. How and why the cheaper counterfeits are more enjoyable to users/abusers is unclear, and is most likely that its produce with traces of ketamin and/or yaba. Swim prefers the more economical nitrazepams, only available and approved brand in Singapore is Douglas, NZ. comes only in 5mg doses at a cost range of XXX per tab. Swim gets a good feeling of contentment and carefree feel with about 4-5 tabs of nitras, pretty much comparable to a tab of Original erimin5s. most ppl swim knows who take Erimins usually finish the entire slab in a day, which is crazily expensive, they usually clinic hop. Nimetazies and Nitras would be my choice. Sometimes taking nitras with some diazepam(Apotex) gives Swim a more lasting and enjoyable kick. Law in Singapore is hard, esp on narcotics, so swim only does prescribed meds. Local Gov have suspended the licenses of many GPs and clinics for over prescribing meds(usually Erimin5s and/or Dormicum (midazolam) ). Many junkies usually mix them with Heroin or Subutex ( buprenorphine ) before shooting, making nimetazepam the only classified benzo illegal to consume or possess without prescription - that would most defintely lead to serving time in prison.

Did SWIY ever try Rohypnol(flunitrazepam)? If so, how did he compare it to Mogadon(nitrazepam) and Erimin-5(nimetazepam)?

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

Did SWIY ever try Rohypnol(flunitrazepam)? If so, how did he compare it to Mogadon(nitrazepam) and Erimin-5(nimetazepam)?

Flunitrazepam, has an amazing quality to it. SWIM only came across it once by chance and wishes it was still available. He says it has a VERY euphoric quality to it compared to other benzodiazepines. Even the other nitro-benzodiazepines such as nitrazepam and nimetazepam.