5-Meo-Mipt (Moxy) first time Dosage??

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

Swim was wondering what would be a good starting dose for 5-meo-mipt, and when kicking up the dose, by how much?? thanks for the help.

[blinkKDX]

swim believes 8mg is a good starting dose. swim is sure others will say more or less, but from other people's feedback it seems as though there is about a 4mg curve. so swiy should start at 8mg and go up 4mg each use.

[Nagognog2]

Actually many have found 5mg a good beginning with this. This to determine one's response to the bodyload - which can be very strong. Some love this bodyload and equate it with an erotic feeling. Other find it too much. So from 5mg it would be prudent to only increase to 8mg before venturing over 10mg.

Anything above 12mg has been found to elicit a powerful full-on psychedelic effect that has been likened to that of DMT. But this is hit or miss. In the last analysis, 5-MeO-MiPT is one weird molecule with no real set range of effects for all. It does wire just about everyone. Some like it. Some hate it. So a slow progression is in order. No one knows what it will do to YOU.

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thanks for the extensive info, very appericated

[Beeker]

if SWIM is clean for a month then 5-6mg ... SWIM says "if every weekend then 8mg. beyond that send in the fire gods."

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

Swim can't wait until tomorrow night, he's a little worried about how he’s going to brake out the right amount. But swim figures if he takes 100mg break it into 10 equal piles then each of those in half; swim should have 5mg piles. Is there a better way with out getting a mg capable scale?

[Pinkavvy]

Swiy has no business playing with these chemicals without a proper scale. If swiy can afford the drug, then there's no reason swiy can't afford a scale first. Get a damn scale.

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

Swiy is absolutely right, swim did the pile brake down thing with 2ct2 and swim thinks the capsules had way too much, going to get a scale……Swim just got back from spending 300$ on a scale!!!!! They are very expensive, but anyway the scale Readability is: 0.001g swim is a little confused, and a little embarrassed for asking this question, but what would be the right mark for 5mg? Would it be 0.005g? Thanks for all the help.

[Abrad]

but what would be the right mark for 5mg? Would it be 0.005g?

SWIY is correct, .005g is 5mg. Congratulations on SWIYs purchase.

[Nagognog2]

Remember: With an accuracy of .001gm (1 milligram), this means if it reads .005 it could be .004 to .006gm. The next purchase SWIM should make is a set of calibration masses (weights) from 1 to 100mg or so. Ohaus makes a good set.

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

1/31/07
6mg 5-Meo-Mipt orally

8:26PM (+20 minutes) – Hair, body buzzing feeling there, start to feel a little nutzoid (hard to explain). It’s defiantly psychoactive.

Music sounds really good. Keep touching my face and hands. Jaw is tense, Body cold (don’t know ifs from 5me or not), It seems like I can think clearer then ever, although its like all of a sudden I’m forgetting where the right keys are on the key board. Everything seems funny. ciggs taste like shit, almost like swim can taste the poisons in them.


2/01/07

Swim tried to keep a report last night but he kept ending up forgetting all about it and not wanting to type. He kicked up the dosage by another 5mg (so total dose could have been 10mg or 11mg, and smoked some weed) There was this freakishly cramping in his neck witch made it hard to move his head. There was a point where he had to remember to breath.(probably just in his head) swim kept running into things, like he thought everything was further then it really was. Like if swim went to open a door, his hand would hit the door instead of grabbing the handle. Over all the total experience was great. It didn’t last as long as the other rcs he’s done,(maybe 5 or 6 hours) but it just might be the best. Swim wants to do it again and stick with documenting the EXP, but swim has a question, is there any amount of time swim should wait in between experiences? Thanks for all the help, SWIYall have been extremely helpful in answering swims questions and swim appreciates it very much.

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

Last night swim was with some friends and swim ended up doing 14mgs (10+4) over a period over like 2 hours. Everyone else did between 5 and 10; it was very intense from the first 20 minutes. Everyone ended up standing in a circle talking a million MPH like some school girls. After about 2 hours it was so weird, it was like water was running over swims eyes, and his muscles felt like they had new feeling, and the body load was there for sure, but the euphoria was enough to make swiy want to thank god. Near the end There were some crazy times for swim where he would get lost in his own head, and say shit like “I think I almost lost myself” his thoughts were just plain crazy and he would say things that made no sense, there was no trace of reality what so ever. one of swims friends kind of almost lost it because of the body load he couldn’t move or couldn’t think he could move and then got scared that it would never go away. How ever after the trip he said he wants to do it again. 5mipt is definitely one interesting chem.

[Beeker]

SWIM found the tolerance to be gone after 2 good nights rest but SWIM found the aching body only got worse and after four times in a single week SWIM had a bloody movement and the research ended there for a while.

SWIM is working with 4-ho-mipt and has found it to have a complete lack of any body load but the dosage is far from 5mg and so are the effects.

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

Originally Posted by Beeker

SWIM found the tolerance to be gone after 2 good nights rest but SWIM found the aching body only got worse and after four times in a single week SWIM had a bloody movement and the research ended there for a while.

SWIM is working with 4-ho-mipt and has found it to have a complete lack of any body load but the dosage is far from 5mg and so are the effects.

doe's swiy rember the dosage of those four times? and what was the highest dose took that was worth the feat? swim reached 14mg and is thinking about going higher. although swim isn't sure if he could get any more higher,or if he would want to.

[Divine Winds]

i see alot of posts about people paying huge amounts for mg scales so i thought id throw this out there...

http://stores.ebay.com/Gorilla-Grow

$39.95USD (buy it now price)

i havent looked for less expensive ones as i feel this is fine.
this is what i will be buying/using...
hope this helps

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D not link to commercial sites! Read the rules!

[joechip666]

Maybe SWIM missed it, but he doesn't see any scales in that price range on that page that would be suitable for 5-MeO-MIPT. For that, you want 0.001 g readability since the standard dose will be between 0.004-0.006 g.

Edited: Ooops! Now that he's rearranged them by price, SWIM found out which one you meant.

[chrisn]

Do a search on ebay of ".001 scale" and you'll find plenty for $15, you'll probably pay another $15 for shipping though.

[samadhi_smiles]

What is your starting dose for any unresearched chemical? 1/10th the published (shulgin) active dosage level to check for idiosyncratic reactions. That's first grade material at the RC magnet school.

Best to be cautious lest you end up giving yourself a seizure or worse.

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	Wise advice in the spirit of harm reduction. Demonstrates in-depth knowledge and helpfulness in other posts too.
	I feel this is very good and wise advice in dosage in general. Start small.

[nanobrain]

i like that advice, it is a mantra os sorts

[Beeker]

If SWIY was into the full POW experience then instead of using more meo-mipt (which is a 50/50 chance of any good results) mix 5mg 5-meo-mipt and a normal dose of shrooms or 4-ho, 4-aco.

... BANG! ZIP! To tha moon, Alice!

[nanobrain]

just remember, it is intensely stimulating and has a tendency for pushing one into deep and hypersober self psycho-anal-ysis. one of the oddest materials in terms of response variance to same dose.

[samadhi_smiles]

^ I agree with this. In fact, this material left me in awe at the power of psychoanalyzing my own mind. It is excellent material....it will be reserved for entheogenic purposes only....the search for a 'party' tryptamine continues (aMT maybe will work).

[Beeker]

Originally Posted by samadhi_smiles

^ I agree with this. In fact, this material left me in awe at the power of psychoanalyzing my own mind. It is excellent material....it will be reserved for entheogenic purposes only....the search for a 'party' tryptamine continues (aMT maybe will work).

SWIM suggests (and also knows this may have been tried but still...) 4-ho-mipt for 'fun'. SWIM has yet to have problems at the 'easy' setting for that tool.

aco-dmt set lasers to stun can be iffy *PEW PEW*

[Cirkeln 6]

I recommend to mix 5-MeO-MiPT with difrent other drugs. The effects can be very suprising. Be carfull with stims however since it tends to increase uncomfort pruduced by such drugs.

Mixed with shrooms all hallusinations disapears for me and the effect is extreamly euphoric.

If I smoke weed on it I get strong hallusinations.

If it's smoked it is alot like DMT (dosage 15-20 mg when using this route).

Oraly on it's own no dosage produce any visuals for me. It is also possible to take quite alot withoutt geting to messed up. However higher dosage don't have any real advantage in terms of wellbeing.

10 mg is a good dosage for me. But 5 mg is often enough when mixed.

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This is a bad presentation of your opinion.

[Cirkeln 6]

Damn just broke a rule. Why is there no edit function?

[chrisn]

You can't edit posts while still a newbie. A moderator will come along and fix this soon.