Animals and Drugs

[pokeyjo304]

i know it sounds mean, but you all know you've done it, swim loves getting his pets high, it is just so much fun when you are sparkin a spliff and your like "hey there puppy, you wanna hit' lol

Swims dog will actually runs to him if he smells weed, guess he really likes getting high, swim always pours him a big ol bowl of puppy chow afterwards,

words can't even describe the appreciation that emits fromt that dog when swim gives him that puppy chow.

anyways, do any other swimmers out there have pets that like to blaze?

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[fnord]

check this link: www.peta.org

[Dvgrn]

i have to say that this is very offensive.

[Isochrist]

SWIM doesnt get their animals high. It just seems wrong and unnatural. There is a friend of SWIM who's dog seems to love getting marijuana smoke blown in it's face. So much so that when in a circle, the dog will come sit in the middle and lick the lips of whoever happens to be exhaling.

[Nicaine]

SWIM doesn't see anything offensive about it, if the animal shows signs of pleasure related to the process and perhaps even seeks it out. SWIM thinks this would be uncommon/unlikely, but possible.

However, if it's forced/unwelcome then it's no different than forcing any painful/unpleasant procedure on an innocent creature for no good reason. It's bad enough to have to do this for a pet's health (e.g. give pills, injections, etc) but if there's no medical reason for it then it borders on torture.

[hh339]

Originally Posted by Nicaine

SWIM doesn't see anything offensive about it, if the animal shows signs of pleasure related to the process and perhaps even seeks it out. SWIM thinks this would be uncommon/unlikely, but possible.

I kind of get what you are saying here, but it is still wrong to mee. If an infant started to mess around with drugs it found on the floor, it would not be OK to keep drugging the baby. I believe humans and animals are of equal worth, and therefor should be given the same amount of respect.

[JustNeedToBeFree]

SWIM believes that putting animals under the influence of drugs is wrong. They are not doing it under their own free will, do not know what they are feeling or why. Animals usually end up scared and/or hurt on drugs,Swim thik s its just outright irresponsible and stupid. Drugs could most certainly traumatize many animals depending on their personality.

[Alicia]

Swia agrees that forcing them is wrong but has seen people house cats eat small amounts of buds now the other ones will not, seems to like to flake out on the sofa. Hates tobacco smoking but will walk in the same room as someone who is smoking herbal cannabis. Dispite effort of the guy keeping putting the cat out the room. he never exhales in front of the cat but it does like looking up at the smoke and seems to be content being in a smoke filled room. Mr J used to get sick of putting the cat out as she always find away in. The other cats he has hate the room. Strange different tastes i suppose.

[snapper]

SWIM also thinks that it is not right to get animals altered with cannabis or anything else. SWIM has heard of animals that seek it out, but blowing it in their face or giving it to them to eat when they do not know the reprocussions is simply unethical. They don't know what is happening in likely find it fightening. Sorta like if someone dropped some LSD into your coffee 1 hour before a court date.

[bcubed]

While trying not to pick a side here...

For those against getting pets stoned...how do you feel about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catnip
Just 'cause it doesn't get US high--for all we know it could be pot x 10 to a cat.

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[JustNeedToBeFree]

Catnip never even worked for any of Swims cats. It occasionally came in some toys and they never seemed to care. And if a pet walks into a smoke filled room, Swim doesn't think thats a bad thing. 's ok if they just want to explore the new smell, but they won't get high unless some one blows smoke in their face or smokes with them in a confined area. And gettin animals high on anything is definitley a bad thing. One of swims uncle's got his dog drunk on liquor and it fell down the stairs. Swim has heard of some peoples cats going nuts aftery having marijuana smoke blown into their face. Remember also, dogs and cats are animals...drugs lower your inhibitions and cause bad behaviors. Many dogs could most likely turn vicious for the time while they're drugged because of fear.

[pokeyjo304]

well swims dog loves it, and he won't deny him the same pleasure that swim gets from cannibus if he wants it, he runs right up to swim and lets him blow the smoke right in his face, if you all think that it is unethical then you are intitled to that opinion, but the fact is that the dog loves it and swim sees nothing wrong in it.

oh and you all can stop giving me bad rep now i get the point, you dont like the post.

[pokeyjo304]

giving or sharing drugs with anyone is deprimental to their health, though it is fun, if swiy considers animals and humans of equal worth then if swiy has ever shared any kind of drug with another person then this would be just as bad as getting a dog high.

now i know what your going to say, well people have the ability to say no or to decide whether they want it or not, well swims dog runs up to him and practically asks for it, he doesn't get agressive, or show any sign of the cannibus harming him in any way.

this was just a fun little post that i came up with last night when i was bored, sorry if it offends anyone, and if it does i suggest you not read it,
i do not condone abusive treatment to any animal, i take very good care of my pets.

again im sorry if i offended anyone, and i will be more careful next time i decide to start a thread.

[podge]

If forced on the animal then swim thinks it to be very wrong.....but if the animal actually desire's it then what harm ? Is it immoral for any creature (including human's) to alter their state of mind if that's how they see fit ? Swim does'nt think so. Who's to say animals " cant handle " it ? Swim has seen plenty of human's who cant handle their substance's at all ( usually alcohol ) ...... more than likely animal's would feel a negative effect but as with human's different animal's have different personalities and maybe for some animal's getting high is just one of those little pleasure's in life. The only one who really know's if the effects are positive is the animal . So surely if the animal didnt like the experience it wouldnt come back for more......much like cow's and electric fence's.

[Flimmar]

Pokey, just how old are you? Oh, so your dog runs up to you and practically asks for it? Why's that? Mainly because you're the master of the dog, and the dog trust you, so why the fuck would you want to take use of that?

I'm very sorry to put it like this, but if you're so damn stupid, that you'll get your dog high, then you shouldn't have a pet.

"But the dog likes it" - so what? A dog likes chocolate pie, but it's not healthy for the dog.

Please just stop, you fool!

[Nagognog2]

I know where you can get some fun-loving Irakanji! You'll love 'em! Now before I load my pistol...

CLOSED.

[tayo]

Considering the mg/kg type thinking... is it safe to give "X" drug to dogs) other animal + drug facts are okay too.

~If you know of a certain drug that animals are allergic to, will die from, etc... please share.

*I know alot of people like to get high with the hound from time to time, so we've ruled out marijuana as a dog killer.

*Some chocolates will kill dogs via theobromine (xanthines in general), that is if chocolate is considered a drug. Grapes are bad too.

*Alcohol can't be good, but could be tolerated (probably).(my dog can't afford a beer belly)

So what about a very low dose of psilocybin mushrooms with alot of petting and nurturing? ... couldn't this provide the (well-loved, non agressive) animal, and human with quite the bonding experience?

Anything relating to animals and their drug usage is welcome here.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swim would hope swiy doesn't plan on giving a dog x or anything of the like.That just isn't right.Swim however doesn't see much wrong with blowing marijuana smoke in an animals face,some seem to enjoy it.Swims friends cat for example will follow swim and his friend whenever they are smoking and meow at us as if asking for some.While under the effects of cannabis the cat seems to like to walk in circles and meow at things that aren't there and chase imaginary mice.Swim thinks this is actually good for the cat.This cat is very old,about fifteen.He has little energy but under the effects of cannabis he almost seems kitten like.

[hh339]

If your pet suddenly starts talking, begging for some shrooms, I would say go for it. Otherwise, please don't.

[tayo]

Lump's dog Crotchie eats poop from other dogs butts, so it's a good thing that poop wasn't chocolate? She'll beg for anything in Lump's hand and yell at Lump in doggie lingo "WOOF WOOF" a.k.a. "GIMME THAT NOW" ...
anyway, that probably won't happen but if it does I'll post Lump and Crotchie's bonding experience.

[hh339]

Do you really care about your dog, or does it just amuse you that he can roll over and now possibly also be a victim of SWiY's reckless experimenting?

I'm not dissing you, but try putting yourself in the animals shoes (I pray to god that you don't REALLY have it wearing shoes...), and go from there. You may traumatize or kill your animal friend, and it would probably eat the drug because it loves you and trusts you. Don't betray that trust.

If you would do it to your newborn baby, than go ahead and do it to your pet. Just don't expect good karma. And don't go telling the wrong people about this, as some would get physical with you. And you might not have your dog to protect you by then. The dog may very well ignore you as it's leader, sparking up a nice fat doobie and watch you get beaten to atoms.

Hehe, I got a little carried away there. The bottom line is: Give you friend(s) love and appreciation, not shrooms and datura.

[grandbaby]

Due to the long duration and often difficult nature of most psychedelics it is highly advised not to feed them to your animals. A bit of weed once in a while, as long as it is not administered against the animal's will (i.e. hotboxing), is probably not a bad thing, though I know of a cat that developed lung cancer, likely (who can tell for sure?) through repeated exposure to mj smoke.

edit: ^agree with the above post wholeheartedly.

[tayo]

If Lump did an experiment it would be one psilocybe cap while at an old age close to being put down. The thought has crossed Lump's mind but he truly does care for the dog and has been afraid to do this for quite some time. He'll likely just stick to playing with the dog while on shrooms. Which still is amazing and provides a very primal experience. I understand though, there's no choice, they don't know what they're doing, it's unethical... if only they could speak...

and datura?! no way! but apparently cat's love angel's trumpet


that said, does anyone know of other drugs and reactions? I don't want anything like this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkpotwelKkY

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Originally Posted by tayo

If Lump did an experiment it would be one psilocybe cap while at an old age close to being put down. The thought has crossed Lump's mind but he truly does care for the dog and has been afraid to do this for quite some time. He'll likely just stick to playing with the dog while on shrooms. Which still is amazing and provides a very primal experience. I understand though, there's no choice, they don't know what they're doing, it's unethical... if only they could speak...

and datura?! no way! but apparently cat's love angel's trumpet


that said, does anyone know of other drugs and reactions? I don't want anything like this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkpotwelKkY

This seems extremely wrong regardless.Swim is an animal lover so maybe that is why it seems so wrong but put yourself in the animals place.We have a choice to take psychedellics.We are able to tell ourselves"Oh I just ate a mushroom,these hallucinations are harmless."an animal will not understand this.

[Jatelka]

There's a similar thread here...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...hlight=animals

I think it would be morally reprehensible to give a dog (or any other animal) a psychedelic. It doesn't have the capacity to understand the experience, and would likely be utterly terrified