Hydromorphone trip report

[Donmeka]

SWIM is used to mostly insufflating Oxycontin and Morphine Sulphate but SWIM has just had his first try of 4mg dilaudid pills.

It is different from OC very chill and relaxing, no nausea or feeling "too fucked up"

2mg was administered and then another 2mg 30min later and another 1mg 15min or so after. SWIM is now feeling very calm and euphoric. great state of mind. SWIM is lovin it


very nice experience

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[Forthesevenlakes]

Does SWIY find that the high from hydromorphone is more "synthetic feeling", or more of a head buzz than a body buzz?

SWIM finds that the high from hydromorphone is a very subtle head change, there is some euphoria but it is not overpowering in the sense that other opioids can be, such as morphine. Additionally, unlike morphine, SWIM feels very little body high, and can go about his daily affairs quite effortlessly. SWIM is trying to figure out if this is because SWIM knows that hydromorphone is a more synthetic drug, thus creating an expectation effect, or if it is mostly due to slightly different binding properties of this drug than other opioids.

So, in terms of effects, how do you lab rats think hydromorphone stacks up against other opioids?

[Klaus]

FTSLS Swim finds it hard to explain but he finds it a "Harder" or possibly as Swiy said more "Synthetic" one might say a simpler feeling ?.

[Forthesevenlakes]

Indeed, SWIM thinks that "simple" is a nice way to describe hydromorphone. It seems to slightly open up increased free association, provides a boost in mood, and thought processes seem to work more quickly, but SWIM has not noticed any sort of body high or even a large emotional change with hydromorphone. Sound similar to what SWIY experienced?

[Klaus]

ftsls >Sound similar to what SWIY experienced?

Very and to some the lack of "body high" may sound boring but for Swim its not the case.

Also with a "simple high" swim finds it yields a nicer comedown .

[Forthesevenlakes]

SWIM agrees that a mostly "head high" may sound boring to some, and even may seem to defeat the purpose of taking opiates at all to others, but SWIM quite enjoys it. However SWIM is a rather odd bird when it comes to body highs to begin with, for example, he feels little to no body high on almost any opioid except morphine, and even with MDMA/MDA he does not get the tactile effects that some people seem to enjoy.

SWIM found the comedown from hydromorphone to be very smooth as well, resulting in an almost imperceptible drift back into sobriety.

All that said, SWIM would like to throw out a caveat that these effects do not make for a "safer" or "less addictive" opioid..hydromorphone must still be treated with the due caution and respect given to other opioids, indeed, to all other drugs.

[Donmeka]

ya SWIM believes it felt just like a nice head high than a body high. SWIM had those 30mg morphine a couple days ago and the hydros were a nice change in SWIMs opinion.

SWIM likes it (IV in the hospital was beeeeautiful) its something SWIM would do somewhere where he cannot seem too "out of it"

and the comedown yes felt like just a subtle slow groove into sobriety. very nice

[Donmeka]

Originally Posted by Forthesevenlakes

Indeed, SWIM thinks that "simple" is a nice way to describe hydromorphone. It seems to slightly open up increased free association, provides a boost in mood, and thought processes seem to work more quickly, but SWIM has not noticed any sort of body high or even a large emotional change with hydromorphone. Sound similar to what SWIY experienced?

very good explanation of its effects as well

[oxalot]

SWIM has heard from a very reliable source that hydromorphone makes a good combo with coke for speedballs if it interests anyone. I wonder if the lack of a rush is only the method of administration though as bioavailability is so different with the different methods. SWIM has no problem getting rush , he says. Very intense.

[Forthesevenlakes]

An account of a hydromorphone "rxspeedball" can be found here. SWIM would urge utmost caution before even considering trying this. Its very easy to veer off in either direction with this combo, and wind up dead (if one is using IV). If one were to mix hydromorphone and coke using another route of administration, still lower the doses of each when trying it. If the dose is too low, SWIY can always do more later, but its impossible to dose back down. When combining uppers and downers keep in mind the strain SWIY is putting on the heart. While the first time might not kill you, and may feel good, remember that its not a combination that one can continue to do many times over the years, its simply too harsh on the body.

The lack of a rush is most likely due to the route of administration. To SWIM's knowledge a true rush is only felt when using a drug intravenously.

[Donmeka]

SWIM 2nds that the TRUE rush is IV, a rush intranasally is nice but compares nothing to IV. SWIM remembers being in the hospital and was given hydro IV and a couple seconds it was like a big fluffy sexy slap in the whole being.

[IBEBANGIN666]

Originally Posted by Forthesevenlakes

Does SWIY find that the high from hydromorphone is more "synthetic feeling", or more of a head buzz than a body buzz?

SWIM finds that the high from hydromorphone is a very subtle head change, there is some euphoria but it is not overpowering in the sense that other opioids can be, such as morphine. Additionally, unlike morphine, SWIM feels very little body high, and can go about his daily affairs quite effortlessly. SWIM is trying to figure out if this is because SWIM knows that hydromorphone is a more synthetic drug, thus creating an expectation effect, or if it is mostly due to slightly different binding properties of this drug than other opioids.

So, in terms of effects, how do you lab rats think hydromorphone stacks up against other opioids?

Dilaudid is SWIM's all time favorite drug. Period. SWIM agrees the euphoria is just right. Love banging Dilaudid because in SWIM's town, heroin purity varies from corner to corner and SWIM always knows what he is getting with Dilaudid. Love it love it love it.

[Donmeka]

Originally Posted by oxalot

SWIM has heard from a very reliable source that hydromorphone makes a good combo with coke for speedballs if it interests anyone. I wonder if the lack of a rush is only the method of administration though as bioavailability is so different with the different methods. SWIM has no problem getting rush , he says. Very intense.

SWIM has mixed 2mg dilaudid with a small amount of cocaine and it was nice but it was not a significant amount of cocaine. SWIM isnt kissing the white girl for a while now so he wont be able to post a report of maybe 4mg dilaudid and .2 or so of cocaine or w/e. SWIM tries to match powders and mix as to create a closer 50/50 ratio in the powder....maybe swim is just a stoner but its nice with OC.

[Spare Chaynge]

Hydromorphone in high dosage is very potent. Producing a nod that is short lived but way more intense than any opiates even H and fentanyl so swim thinks. Swim does not use iv and takes 24mg of hydromorphone orally or insufflating sometimes.

[Donmeka]

SWIM wishes he could get his hands on an abundance of 4s or 6s SWIM just likes them in moderation, he doesnt think he would take 24mg unless maybe over time and at a recreational event (if he had 6s)

1-2 4s a day not everyday is a great mood booster for SWIM who really has very little motivation/drive to do things. where the hydromorphone like an opiate should creates pleasure where SWIM likes to progress where when sober SWIM has a kinda blocked/scared feeling.

[bunnicula]

SWIM just insufflated 2mg; she's been taking oxycodone for the last couple days (bet. 20 and 35mg orally, at most 15mg at a time, about 6 hours apart) and she has a history of hydrocodone/oxycodone use, never taken more than 100 mg of either in any given day. So she's not very tolerant, but by no means is she new to these drugs either.

At the moment, SWIM is very happy with the mild effects of 2mg; she took a tagamet ~45 minutes ago but she wonders whether that only works with oral use. Regardless, she's very happy with the head high; she's also glad she ate a small meal (w/the antacid) so her stomach is feeling nice as well (she has a tendency to get nauseated and never takes opiates on an empty stomach)

As others have said, NEVER underestimate the power of opiates...often times, especially after a few hours and eating a meal, they'll come right back to kick SWIM's ass just when she thought the worst/best was over. SWIM is pretty damned happy right now, and she appreciates all the info she's found on this forum.

[dude123]

body buzz for sure

[Donmeka]

Originally Posted by Spare Chaynge

Swim does not use iv and takes 24mg of hydromorphone orally or insufflating sometimes.

24mg is SWIMs usual recreational limit which he feels is the best. going above 30mg seems like entering a whole other level on the opiate train.

[keats]

SWIM doesn't like hydromorphone that much. He finds it more enjoyable than hydrocodone or codeine, but still prefers oxycodone, fentanyl, methadone, or heroin. Hydromorphone just doesn't feel very euphoric to him in the way all the others mentioned do, feels more sedating to SWIM. SWIM had a pretty decent supply of dilaudid 4s for a while but chose not to buy more in lieu of oxycodone, which, after a direct comparison, he definately prefers. This is all insufflated though, occasionally oral. SWIM doesn't shoot, so he's sure hydromorphone's a whole other beast if you're slamming it.

[Donmeka]

SWIM has heard some say that IV is the closest to H, these are people who prefer H though. Never trying H SWIMs IV experience with hydromorphone in the hospital was mindblowing.