Anyone new to Research chems?

[cyalume]

Originally Posted by Alfa

If you wouldrelease, a couple of books full with novel scaresly researched compounds, upon a world full of drug consuming gung ho maniacs. How bold would you be with dosage advise? I would be very careful.

well put

[HippieD9]

Originally Posted by Alfa

If you wouldrelease, a couple of books full with novel scaresly researched compounds, upon a world full of drug consuming gung ho maniacs. How bold would you be with dosage advise? I would be very careful.

What he really needed to be more liberal with was onset times. More problems seems to come from re-dosing rather than the original dose.





D.

[GDxCAT]

Ive been experimenting with RC's for about 1 year.

So far i have tried 2c-i, 2-ct-2 and iprocin. My favorite so far is iprocin.



I plan on trying 2ce, dpt, amt, 2-ct-7 and 4 ho mipt some time this year.

there are more that i want to do but time and money are holding me back.

Oh well, hopefully the scene wont die out completely and i will still be able to try new ones years from now.

[ISBN]

I've only taken 2c-i once. It didn't live up to what all of my friends
were preaching ('dude, I was so messed up I could barely function').
The reason I loved the experience, though, was the intellectual
stimulation it provided. Everyone talks about seeing visual patterns,
which I did. What I found fascinating were the 'big patterns' I was
seeing in the world. All of these really insightful thoughts about
metaphysics flooded my mind. I was reducing complex events down to
simple logic statements. I was expanding simple events into far
reaching theories. I whipped out a stack of post-it notes to write down
my thoughts, but then I ended up doodling a really trippy illustration
of a friend. I can draw from observation pretty well, but I've always
had a problem drawing from memory and imaginaition. Not on that night.
Now begins the quest for gold member status so I can hopefully come
close to that night once again.

[thydarkprevails]

very nice ISBN i wish you all the luck in achieving it

[Df1337]

SWIM came upon RC's about a year and a half ago. The only RC's
SWIM has taken were 2c-e and 2c-i. SWIM likes 2c-i but the
bodyload can be irksome at high doses(20mg+). SWIM also
experiences slight OEV's the following week if SWIM uses it several
times in a small amount of time. 2c-e is much more euphoric and
more fitting for social/party atmoshphere. SWIM took
2c-e(+various others) with 5 good friends and had one of the more crazy
nights of his life.

[hogg]

Im new to research chemicals... and have tried many "illegal" ones prior to this. Including MDMA MDA 2C-B and the such. I am very interested in trying these new chemicals... although before I begn my research I would like to be very careful in how I obtain them... has anyone any advice.


thanks in advance

[GDxCAT]

The only advice i can give is wait 1 month, become a gold member and
then you will have access to the sources forum which will defintely
help you in your search.

peace.

[blackwolf]

Originally Posted by nicholson_tyler

Anyone new to research chems or just tried a
new one that they never have had before?.

I sampled oleamide last night.......that was pretty intresting, but nothing
to write home about. Made me feel light and slightly euphoric, but also
VERY sleepy. effects took about 45 min to get going and then lasted ruffly
a hour. Could prove to be a decent sleep aid some time in the future. But
since I only know one person to have taken it before, I dont plan on using
it on a regular basis.Edited by: blackwolf

[Iggypoop]

Tried 2c-i for the first time yesterday, only had a low dose (10mg) but it was still intense! going for 16mg this weekend with ma girl, which should be fun. i can see how people would say 'its a bit like muchrooms and mdma, but nothing like the two really' def had a bit of a mushie head on but but the body stimulation was sort of mdma like. I had a bit of body load from it tho as well but it was just a nagging 'too-full' feeling in my stomach, not too distracting tho.


so what 2c-* should i try next?? mmmmmm could be some 2c-e next methinks

[storm]

Yea-


I tried some 4 HO-DIPT last weekend. It was about a 10 mg dose and I wasn't all that impressed. Some interesting imagery and such but nothing significant. Am planning on trying some 5-meo this weekend. Will keep you posted.

[GDxCAT]

4ho dipt shines above the 20mg mark. Its actually one of my favorite rc's of the ones that i have tried.

also there are lots of 5meo's. which one are you trying?

[lokisprophet]

i haven't posted before but i have done 2c-e, 2c-i, also this other
powder that my friend bought online that was smoked with bud intense in
my head trip for awhile. he said it 5-m****** 2c-e was kindof like
goons for me though without as strong of a body high. i had a dude tell
me i looked like i was coked out though. does anyone know where these
rc's can be had anymore, nobody in my town that i know has even heard
of the stuff before.

[Bwen]

I did 18mg of 2C-I the first time and 10mg the second time...some nice patterns..

[allyourbase]

4-OH-MIPT entirely surpassed my expectations, sadly the only source I knew for this research material has closed down.

[lostprophets000]

i've been itchin to try some RC's but have yet to come across anyone in this area who has any kind...so thats a pain in the ass...from all the trip reports and what not....it sounds like something i need to try.....soon...

[joachimist]

the only rc i've tried is methylone and it was a very good experience



usually i prefer more hallucinogenic psychedilic products like
psylocibin, lsd, dmt extract smoked, salvia concentrated (very strange
very different)

i have found now quite many sites selling rc

whith sometimes so different prices

i would be please to order but am not shure though i don't know anybody who tried one of thoose.



so i wanted know :

do i have to be carefull ? i mean is there ofeten bad sites that will
keep my oney without sending the product? or sending bad quality
products?

wich rc sites are better ? canadian? usa? japan? else? (i've seen japan to be the cheapest ones)



does the custom office sometime keep the order even if it is legal ?



thank you and sorry for my bad english



(PS:what is there to do to become goldmember? wait? )

[joachimist]

and is it allowed to give here the adresses of the sites i am talking about so that we can speek in details ?

(i haven't seen anyone doing it so i guess it is not allowed, just asking to be sure!)

[GDxCAT]

you cant post the url here, only in the sources forum when you become a
gold member. To become a gold member you must be a member for 1 month
and make 100 posts that are of value to the community.



(hint: japanese sites tend to be reliable.)

[xctico]

I haven't tried rc's yet. At least not to my knowledge, maybe this one time they sold some "x" that tasted quite different...



They're not quite common around here. Most of the good stuff we get is
acid... and I dont have a credit card, so I cant buy much stuff online.
Any one knows a way to set up a paypal account using cash??

So i've taken my research in a different direction.

I've been researching shamanic plants found locally. Mostly with the
info provided by inbio [the national biodiversity institute].



I did an expedition a few weeks ago, looking for psilocybe squamosa
[thnx alfa]. I went to Chirripo [quechua for "mountain of magical
waters", sacred indian grounds, an 8 hour climb, 8 hour descent, total
of 4 days expedition ], but I only found 2 very small ones, though they
where easy to identify by their aquose covering layer, they wheren't
potent enough for any good results. But I know where to find them now,
and I'll be back in august with the rain. Even if I don't find any, the
trip is worth taking just to feel that place's energy, and to drink
magical waters...



Im planning another expedition soon. Im heading south to the turrialba
mountains, where psicotria viridis has been spotted several times by
researchers of inbio. Then I'll be heading north to the mountians of
heredia, where banisteriopsis caapi has also been spotted on repeated
ocassions by researchers. If Im lucky enough, I'll be researching the
holly ayahuasca.



I'm also planning expeditions to find calea zacatechichi, and salvia
divinorum, besides a galaxy of mushrooms. And when the time is right,
I'll trade some of those goods for access to someone's credit card... or I'll make good friends with a mad scientist... to really study shulgins work







So is going to be quite a research, from the most ancient drugs known to mankind, to the newest ones...

[korky8097]

yeah i have never done them but am looking for somewhere to
start. I have researched foxy and heard good things about it from
a person i know, 5-meo-dmt sounds powerful, but the dose range is so
small that im afraid that a scale could screw up the doses. I
have been looking for a RC that has great visuals, perhaps some depth
and thought enhancment like with lsd but not a must, low body load,
perferably low body load, if it had some properties kinda like x that
would be great. I am experienced with lsd (15-20 times), dxm(5
times), salvia(never reached breakthrough), MDA once, and some
others. So im not looking for something that is geared towards
beginners in the psycadelic world. Ill keep researching, any
input?

[GDxCAT]

i recomend 2ct2, 2ci, 2ce, 4ho dipt, and 4 ho mipt.

Any one of those is a good place to start your research.

[serpent]

great stuff exctico,i think i would rather be in a place where the natural sources of tryptamines were abundant rather than using the synthetic ones,i dont think you could ever go wrong with 'set and setting' then.

[xctico]

Well i wouldn't wanna take a wrong turn on ayahuasca... that's for
sure. The bad trip reports i've heard are on a whole new level... but
generally speaking nature is a much better setting for trippin than a
club or a city.



Is there any RC that comes close to ayahuasca in the intensity of the trip [besides DMT of course...]

[GDxCAT]

xctico.

I have never tried ayahuasca but i have tried DPT (a chemical very close to DMT) and the experience was mindblowing.

I plan on combining DPT with an MAOI to a huasca concoction of my own.

Ill post as to what the experience was like.