TEK - LeJunk's Cocaine Purification Technique / acetone wash

[Woodman]

Nic,

Wouldn't you risk further contamination from water as condensation results from extreme cold once you remove it from the freezer?

Ever see what happens to a frozen glass once you take it out of the freezer?

...same thing, I figure!

[DrGonzo]

Well filtering out the frozen water should only take a few seconds, so it can be performed in the freezer. If you filter it inside the freezer and seal the cleaned acetone inside an airtight container, only a negligible amount of condensation should get in. The small amount of air inside your container shouldn't have enough H20 in it to be of concern.

Maybe?

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by Woodman

Nic,

Wouldn't you risk further contamination from water as condensation results from extreme cold once you remove it from the freezer?

Ever see what happens to a frozen glass once you take it out of the freezer?

...same thing, I figure!

That would be a risk, but I can see ways around it (such as transferring the contents from the bottle to the beaker containing cola inside the freezer! In other words, do it inside the freezer with the freezer door open, then stir and leave the results in the freezer until it's time to filter). Perhaps a tiny, tiny bit of water could still get in via condensation, but I'd think it would really be negligible. Somehow I doubt losing 1/500th gram (or whatever) would bother anyone.

Edit -- DrGonzo basically already said what I typed above... yeesh, I should learn to read further into people's posts...

This may or may not seem worth it to any given individual to avoid the whole Epsom Salts step. After SWIM tried it himself, he'd really like to avoid it... it wasn't difficult, but it was a real PITA for several reasons (spilling some inside the oven, having to wait 24 hours for the stuff to settle out, accidentally stirring it up while removing acetone, wasting some acetone, etc). Also, SWIM thinks most acetone out there (no matter where it's purchased) is already nearly pure and thus anhydrous, so the Epsom Salts step could be a real waste of time, money & energy. The freezer method is much easier, so it wouldn't matter if the acetone was already anhydrous or not.

Anyway, SWIM hopes his idea works for someone who doesn't want to mess with magnesium sulfate. There's no reason why it shouldn't work, nor does SWIM think it requires any more care than when magnesium sulfate is used (an accidental stir/shake with that stuff sitting on the bottom of the bottle, and it becomes unusable for another 12-24 hours, or maybe even taints the coke with magnesium sulfate).

[Le Junk]

Originally Posted by Woodman

Nic,

Wouldn't you risk further contamination from water as condensation results from extreme cold once you remove it from the freezer?

Ever see what happens to a frozen glass once you take it out of the freezer?

...same thing, I figure!

Condensation is the term I think your refering too. And yes, if you were continually working in a blow freezing environment, I guess it would work, but within seconds of average temps, and your done! Sorry........

Le Junk

[Woodman]

Nic, if it's between buying a walk-in freezer and heating up a bag of epsom salt,

...I'mmmm gonna go with the epsom salt!

[smowkah]

Swim has bought a little bottle of acetone.
Swim looked at the label of the bottle to see how pure this acetone is:
Ingredients: Acetone (no percentage, no water, no alcohol).
So is this bottle pure acetone? (Swim thinks it is but just want to be sure about it)

[Benga]

Originally Posted by smowkah

Swim has bought a little bottle of acetone.
Swim looked at the label of the bottle to see how pure this acetone is:
Ingredients: Acetone (no percentage, no water, no alcohol).
So is this bottle pure acetone? (Swim thinks it is but just want to be sure about it)

As a side note...
swim wouldn't be so sure. For some reason, in some european countries OTC solvents are labelled very imprecisely, descriptions being sometimes very vague, as an example muriatic acid is labelled as "at least" 30%
OTC acetone here is watered down, maybe 50%, but this does not show on the label. maybe the idea is that the public doesn't need this info for his nail polish paint thinning removing need, and if there is any problem you can call the anti-poison centre which has the list of all the commercial brand names, compositions and ingredients. But no, this info doesn't seem accessible to the general public.
swim is begining to think this imprecision is somewhat deliberate, but finds it particularly annoying, as ordering chems is really shady for non chemists ( and no, amateur chemistry doesn't sound very plausible)

and regarding "epsom salts", they're just not for sale in some places, as someone else found out in this thread.

there's always a lot of adapting to do for non US citizens regarding such techs, and many turn out to be very complicated if you can't order proper chemicals..North american OTC is just often very different from some european countries' OTC

b

[smowkah]

@ Benga, Thanx for the reaction.
Swim's gonna put it in the freezer to determine how pure it is.

[Nicaine]

SWIM evaporated the acetone used to clean approximately 3 grams of cola. After evaporating, he added water and baking soda, and used his normal/reliable technique to try and make quick & dirty freebase (aka crack).

Results: Zilcho, nada, nunca. No base oil, no nothing but a bad smell that reminded SWIM of Elmer's glue that had been sitting out too long and started going bad (not only that, but it's actually tacky like glue when dry -- SWIM thinks it may be methylsulfonylmethane or something similar). There was no cocaine whatsoever in the crap LeJunk's method cleaned out, just some particularly nasty cut(s).

Three Cheers to LeJunk! Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip, he's Hip!

Originally Posted by Woodman

Nic, if it's between buying a walk-in freezer and heating up a bag of epsom salt,

...I'mmmm gonna go with the epsom salt!

Fair enough, but you can't argue that it's nice to have more choices (and no walk-in required, most people's freezers SHOULD have some maneuvering room inside...).

[smowkah]

Swim put the aceton in the freezer for over 20 hours.
Swim took the 100 ml bottle out of the freezer and there were
no ice cristals in the bottle, just the aceton wich was still liquid ofcourse.
Guess that's the reason smim is only able to get 100ml bottles.
Thanx for the reaction LeJunk.

[jouni]

"SWIM would like to suggest a "quick & dirty" method to make acetone anhydrous: Put it in the freezer for an hour or two. This should freeze any water in the acetone, but AFAIK the acetone itself should remain liquid (~ -94C freezing point). Does everyone agree that this would work, or is SWIM mistaken? (if so, he'll retract this post)."

"There's no reason why it shouldn't work"


When swim first time saw this suggestion to clean acetone with freezer, he doubted it.
He thinks the reason is azeotropic mixture (correct swims terms if he's wrong) of water and acetone? Like you can't remove water from 96% ethanol by freezing it. Just stick with epsom salt if swiy can't get anhydrous acetone.

As swim said please correct him if he is wrong.

[dude]

Lejunk, again thank you. Swim said he did it and it worked. but not sure how well. question for you please. swim's end product was suprisingly not much less than the original amount. Swim assume's there is still impurities in it. swim's question is how important is it to crush into very fine powder? beginning product was a solid rock, then it was screened before wash but there were still tiny rocks the size of pin heads. is that ok, or would the tiny rocks keep the accetone from doing its job? Thanks for time and help.

[Le Junk]

Originally Posted by dude

Lejunk, again thank you. Swim said he did it and it worked. but not sure how well. question for you please. swim's end product was suprisingly not much less than the original amount. Swim assume's there is still impurities in it. swim's question is how important is it to crush into very fine powder? beginning product was a solid rock, then it was screened before wash but there were still tiny rocks the size of pin heads. is that ok, or would the tiny rocks keep the accetone from doing its job? Thanks for time and help.

SWIMS personally found that after the wash, even after another fine chopping that the larger clumps that want to stick together, seem to be the best by far. SWIM can't explain it, it just is.....................

Le Junk

[FlakeyPink]

what other impurities can this method remove? caffeine? inisitol?

thanks

[Le Junk]

Originally Posted by Le Junk

I've personally found that after the wash, even after another fine chopping that the larger clumps that want to stick together, seem to be the best by far. I can't explain it, it just is.....................

Le Junk

That is exactly true. You simply chop up the cleaned product as much as you can on a ceramic plate and then let air dry for the 24-48 hour period. after that, transfer the chopped up evaporated, cleaned blow to a waxy, smoth finished paper plate. Push the entire pile to one end. hold the plate with each of your thumbs and tilt the plate towards you ever so slightly and begin lightly tapping on the pile. Those rocks or clumps your talking about will start falling down towards the end closest to you. After a minute, stop, collect the rocks and transfer them to a sperate plate. push the original pile back up and keep repeating the process until all of those very tiny little rocks are on the other plate. The remnants on the original plate will be a bleach white looking, non diamond, ,non sparkling pile of powder. This is some form of acetone insoluble cut that stays behind, but can be rid of with the "tapping method".

Try it, you'll see for yourself!

Le Junk

[FlakeyPink]

Originally Posted by Le Junk

That is exactly true. You simply chop up the cleaned product as much as you can on a ceramic plate and then let air dry for the 24-48 hour period. after that, transfer the chopped up evaporated, cleaned blow to a waxy, smoth finished paper plate. Push the entire pile to one end. hold the plate with each of your thumbs and tilt the plate towards you ever so slightly and begin lightly tapping on the pile. Those rocks or clumps your talking about will start falling down towards the end closest to you. After a minute, stop, collect the rocks and transfer them to a sperate plate. push the original pile back up and keep repeating the process until all of those very tiny little rocks are on the other plate. The remnants on the original plate will be a bleach white looking, non diamond, ,non sparkling pile of powder. This is some form of acetone insoluble cut that stays behind, but can be rid of with the "tapping method".

Try it, you'll see for yourself!

Le Junk

wait was that for swim? lol you qouted yourself so i duno

[magnusx420]

Originally Posted by Le Junk

That is exactly true. You simply chop up the cleaned product as much as you can on a ceramic plate and then let air dry for the 24-48 hour period. after that, transfer the chopped up evaporated, cleaned blow to a waxy, smoth finished paper plate. Push the entire pile to one end. hold the plate with each of your thumbs and tilt the plate towards you ever so slightly and begin lightly tapping on the pile. Those rocks or clumps your talking about will start falling down towards the end closest to you. After a minute, stop, collect the rocks and transfer them to a sperate plate. push the original pile back up and keep repeating the process until all of those very tiny little rocks are on the other plate. The remnants on the original plate will be a bleach white looking, non diamond, ,non sparkling pile of powder. This is some form of acetone insoluble cut that stays behind, but can be rid of with the "tapping method".

SWIM is wondering if LeJunk can confirm what he had read above is ACTUALLY true, that after drying ones coke, that there is "some form of acetone insoluble cut that stays behind" because that wasn't explain in the guideline in the beginning.

[Le Junk]

Originally Posted by magnusx420

SWIM is wondering if LeJunk can confirm what he had read above is ACTUALLY true, that after drying ones coke, that there is "some form of acetone insoluble cut that stays behind" because that wasn't explain in the guideline in the beginning.

SWIM was going to say absolutely yes, but epote already beat him to it. There is some sort of extremely fine, very white crystalline powder left behind after the cleaning process that is not definately not cocaine. Upon insuffilation, it burns and will produce a very intense and ampy buzz. SWIM has yet to confirm it's origin, but it can be seperated. SWIM would have speculated ephedrine, but was able to remove it with an ether wash, so the jury's still out. Even though you think your final cleaned product has been broken down into as fine a powder as possible, do the waxy finished paper plate method SWIM spoke of or perhaps the plastic baggy method epote mentioned. SWIM's going to try epote's friends method next time himself just for shit's and giggles.

Le Junk

[samireallyam]

"That is exactly true. You simply chop up the cleaned product as much as you can on a ceramic plate and then let air dry for the 24-48 hour period. after that, transfer the chopped up evaporated, cleaned blow to a waxy, smoth finished paper plate. "

Silly Question: Can SWIY use a spice grinder (or some similar tool) to chop up the cleaned product? Also, after chopped, can it be left to air dry on same ceramic plate?

[MrG]

Get this:

SWIM has been using Le Junk's washing method for a while now and usually ended up with a nice clean 1.3g or 1.4g from his initial 2g.

Yesterday he picked up his score and found that, as previously it had been solid rock and therefore difficuly for middlemen to mess with, this time it was mostly powder with *some* rocky bits.

2g became .7g

SWIM is not sure what he's pissed at the most, losing that amount of weight or the thought that, had he not cleaned it, he could have been hoovering goodness knows what up his nostrils!

Scumbag dealers.

[smowkah]

Swim tried the acetone wash and has to look for a new source for coke.
Only 30 percent pure coke, daamn!!

[Le Junk]

Originally Posted by smowkah

Swim tried the acetone wash and has to look for a new source for coke.
Only 30 percent pure coke, daamn!!

It definately exposes the scumbags. SWIM always take a small container of bleach to his dealers house, just to make sure it's even coke in the first place!

Le Junk

[FlakeyPink]

lujunk does it remove inisitol or any of those cuts?

[Le Junk]

I'll attach a complete cocaine solubility chart later today.................

Le Junk

[FlakeyPink]

Originally Posted by Le Junk

I'll attach a complete cocaine solubility chart later today.................

Le Junk

thanks