Opinions - most euphoric benzodiazepine ?

[ToxicMind]

Almost all benzos will be given out for anxiety. Tell your doctor that you are having panic attacks and they will give you something- don't say insomnia cause then you'll probly end up getting a sleeping pill. Also if you look hard enough you can find a doctor online that will actually write you a rx. They ask you what you need the meds for, then write the rx, and have a pharmacy mail it to you. Good Luck! -K

[msimm]

I told my doctor I was experiencing increased, chronic generalized
anxiety (I am in the middle of changing careers) and that I'd been self
medicating (my words exactly) with a chemical called Phenibut which
being sold as supplement, but that I'd tappered down off the Phenibut because it was causing apnea and enough respitory
depression to worry me. I
walked out with 30 days worth of Lexpro samples and a script for Xanax.







I don't probably look like a drug user which probably made it a little
easier, but my understanding is that there are doctors who believe in
treating mental disorders with medication and those that want you to
simply 'chin-up'. The pro medication doctors seem to be pretty willing
to dole out Xanax prescriptions, it seems to be sort of the anxiety
drug du jour. Its generally considered both safe and reliable.



As for euphoria, for me it barely even hits the anxiety. I'd taken a
good deal of valium a few years ago and was expecting (to steal a line
from Bluelight25) more of a cloud of care bears.



I guess this stuff hits everybody differently. For my part (and from
what I've read on boards like dr-bobs and such) I think Valium has more
of mood lifting effect and I suspect thats why it seems to be falling
out of favor.



I'll make a note to look into Lorazepam though, sounds interesting.

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[Sasha Gulag]

hands down ..Clonazepam is my fav benzo


it does, at least to me, have some euphoric quality. i feel artiistically and creatively opened up on clonos. Uninhibited too, not that im that inhibited to begin with


the key is not taking a hypnotic dose. 1-1.5mg of clono is perfect for a happy, goofy night. Clonazepam also lasts like 14 hours, you wake up stoned the next morn

[I been around]

I love valium. You need to take like 50 miligrams and just chill.

[stormbringerr]

ativan clarifies the mind, it all depends on the person...

stormbringerr added 3 Minutes and 39 Seconds later...

ativan clarifies the mind, it all depends on the person...swim finds xanax to be the most euphoric but terrible to run out of if addicted.

[dastardlymonkey]

I personally prefer valium.the buzz from xanax is enjoyable but i tend to pass out eventually,and klonipin just makes me forget everything.


high doses of valium if you can stay awake and with the help of a little cannabis,puts one in quite an enjoyable place.

[camiroquai]

jeeze louise, just take some XTC!

[dastardlymonkey]

Valium is the most pleasurable of the benzo family, but I would'nt call it euphoric. Zyprexa is a benzo even if it is an antipsychotic, but I still would not take it.

[unico_walker]

Its a total crap shoot trying to get it prescribed though, some doctors
will write you a script on the spot while others will tell you to drink
a bud and chin up



My recommendation is to move to a place where you walk into the
pharmacy and tell the pharmacist what you want without needing a script

[wearestardust]

My recommendation is to move to a place where you walk into the
pharmacy and tell the pharmacist what you want without needing a script[/quote]

Does anyone know of such a country? It sure would save a lot of hassle and time spent persuading doctors of what you really NEED!
WAStardust

[soapiswierd]

well. vicodin can give you a pretty euphoric sensation if you do it
right. just take a few 5/500s and turn on some pretty lights and
relaxing music. drink a beer. and its pretty nice. its like sedation
and euphoria in my opinion.

[Lysergium]

Vicodin is not a benzo, its an opiate with paracetamol. The only way
your going to get any euphoria with a benzo is to mix it with other
downers such as alcohol, opiates,GHBs, or weed. Of course, this is not
advisable though because of possible coma/death through respitory
failure.

[Gahaba22]

Dastardlymonkey,

Zyprexa is not a benzo. It is an atypical antipsychotic

[Mike177]

getting a scrip for xanax is not too hard, but it can be. i have a long history of depretion and anxiety so for me it wasent all that hard. they will usally try you on something that dosent have the addictive qualitys of xanax. before i was able to get xanax i was givin buspar, gabitril, respidol, abilify and i had to find out a common side affect for them or just say that it wasent cutting the cake. for me it awile, but it was worth it considering i was already there every 2 weeks

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

Valium most euphoric for swim, however xanax is his fav...

[Henfer]

SWIH has had valium and ativan so far (diazepam the first, lorazepam the second).

lorazepam wins here hands down for SWIH. you feel it kick in much better. Valium is not that good alone, really, drink a beer or two - that'll make it. take valium and an opiate and there's no sorrow in the world. in fact, if everyone would do this, people would reduce their lifespan a bit, everyone would be addicted, but there would be no wars

really, ativan is the better one for recretional usage in SWIH's eyes, but you can dose valium higher (1mg ativan = 10 mg valium), as ativan is one of the most amnesic ones. 2mg is enough with no tolerance.

SWIH definately won't recommend zopiclone for recreational usage. you'd do strange things. SWIH designed his room new, totally made a mess and was even talking with people. he can not remember anything of this. and that's with sloppy 15mg, only two tabs.

[wearestardust]

Of course benzos give you a sense of euphoria. The strongest is actually alprazolam, followed by clonazepam, but as someone noted earlier, clonazepam lasts a hell of a lot longer. The word (not having tried it yet) is that the most euphoric benzo by a long way is nimetazepam. It's a pity it is practically impossible to find in the west. I believe it's very popular in Japan and S>E>Asia. There is only one commercial brand - Erimin-5.
WAS

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by wearestardust

Of course benzos give you a sense of euphoria.

This is a subjective opinion. Many people don't experience any euphoria, or even relaxation from benzodiazepines, while many do, and some even find them euphoric. SWIM doesn't find them euphoric either.

[kritikal]

I must say lorazepam is the one i hold dearest. I went in to a docs with genuine intense panic attacks, i was given aropax (SSRI not benzo) then they continued while coming of Rock, (we call amphetamine rock over here, crack is very rare but meth is an epidemic.) as well as morphine, etc, etc. this was whilst i was in rehab so theyu just changed my meds to mirtazapine, another anti depressent that works on norepnipherine. This seemed to help a bit. your best with old doctors they just say to you "what do you think will help you." Say something like i was given "insert drug name here" before and that helped.

[msimm]

My opinion has always been that they are more prone to work (as expected) for people who typically do experience anxiety. But it's more a pet theory. Psych0naut, are you typically anxious or outgoing (as in either/or)?

[GForce]

SWIM has tried three benzodiazepines; Xanax, Klonopin, and Valium.

Xanax he finds the strongest, shortest acting, and most euphoric of the three. If he wants to get messed up or needs fast acting panic relief this is his drug of choice. It is also extremely useful to have around in the case of tripping on a psychedelic. In the event of a "bad trip" one can usually just solve the problem by taking Xanax (or probably any other benzo for that matter, just not as quickly) as a bad trip is just one giant panic attack.

Valium is his least favorite of the three. He hasn't tried it too often, but finds its half-life is way too long and it doesn't kick in nearly as quickly or as powerful as the other two. If he takes it within a few hours of going to sleep he usually always wakes up with a residual hangover from how slow the half-life is. I can see why this drug can be useful for those who need to cope with severe anxiety all day, but SWIM personally doesn't find it to be of much recreational value.

Klonopin is what I'm prescribed for general anxiety and panic disorder. I find it has the good sides of the other two, without sacrificing too much. Its half-life is much shorter than Valium, but not too much longer than Xanax, at least in terms of actually feeling the dose. It makes managing anxiety extremely easy because its short-acting enough that it can treat panic attacks but its also long-acting enough that it can keep me calm all day, or at least over a period of time much longer than Xanax. I usually take it twice a day (prescription is take as needed) and that's enough for me to manage anxiety. Also, SWIM will take Klonopin recreationally because it is short-acting enough that he won't feel residual effects the next day unless he was drinking heavily. In those cases where he does feel crappy, it was probably the alcohol.

[GForce]

Try almost any middle eastern, asian, or south american country. I know there are at least a handful of countries in each continent that sell them OTC. As mentioned in another thread suppliers from India and Pakistan take advantage of this grey market and sell to customers abroad claiming that it isn't their responsibility to determine what is legal for every single country. I'm not sure if they're breaking the law in their country, but at the end of the day if customs ever intercepted a package because they found drugs in it they would notify you and allow you to refuse delivery. I won't discuss sources here because it isn't the place but provided you're careful with your paper-trail (most of these places only take WU anyway) you really can't get pinned. There are also still a VERY limited number of pharmacy/doctor phone services in the United States, which seem to all come out of Central Pharmacy in Florida. Not sure what they're called now, but it has been Centra Pharmacy, Central Pharma, etc. My guess is they keep getting shut down and moving their operations around. They act like a normal online record pharmacy which is completely legal however everyone I've spoken to who has used such services has ignored the medical forms and waivers and still recieved their order.

[sl1p609]

nimetazepam hmmmm

would like to know the euphiria feeling between nimetazepam and the three alprazolam, diazepam and clonazepam.

because swim hears good things about this particular benzo.

its not the one they band in some countries for violent mood swings though?

not sure

[Henfer]

so far, as SWIH has tested diazepam, lorazepam, and alprazolam and also flunitrazepam..

Diazepam: only nice as an enhancer for bud, alcohol, opiates. itself just tends to make SWIH feel weak, and in dosages of 50mg+ just like heavily drunken. also SWIH doesn't like it as a sleep helper, because if he takes it 1 hour before he wants to go sleeping, he's sedated the whole next day. once, he took 50mg diazepam and drank two beers... sleep was good but the next day, he couldn't keep his eyes open and once even fell from his chair at work

Lorazepam: definately SWIH's favourite for sleep helping. strong and fast onset, and when it's gone, it's gone (not so much a hangover). However, SWIH is somewhat resistant to it and needs at least 4mg for sleep helping. not euphoric, only relaxing, and definately the best one for SWIH to help come down after amphetamine-nights.

Alprazolam: Definately the best for recreational usage, especially together with alcohol and opiates. not good for parties. once SWIH took 1mg and drank a few beer on a party, and as he god nauseous, he chewed a diphenhydramine gum. the nausea was quickly gone, but SWIH was passing out all the time and had to leave the party early and drive home by taxi because he felt tired like never before in life. However, remains the best also for single usage, especially 3mg+ dosages. however, this alone is enough to pass our rather quickly.

flunitrazepam: forget this one. not euphoric, heavy hangover, and very fast onset even on low dosages. SWIH gof this prescribed once because he was in the hospital and could barely sleep for three nights. they gave SWIH this, and he passed out very quickly.

concluding, for recreational usage, alprazolam (aka Xanax) remains the best.

Special Tip: SWIH is not a smoker, so he's pretty sensitive to nicotine, however, this should work for anybody. When SWIH took too much diazepam or needs a short time and fast onset relief of its effects (because his girlfriend spontanously thinks its a good idea to call and tell him she'll be there in 20 minutes..), SWIH uses his bong to smoke a dose of pure tobacco. Yeah this is pretty heavy and flushes and rushes his head heavily for 2-3 minutes, but it removes the diazepam effects very well. However, it's a short time relief. Some cigs could do it too.

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

[quote=Henfer;303238],

Diazepam: only nice as an enhancer for bud, alcohol, opiates. itself just tends to make SWIH feel weak, and in dosages of 50mg+ just like heavily drunken. quote]
swiy must have a very high tolerance level, must be the biggest. 12 mg and swiy blacks out and comes too named on his roof type shit. and if swiy had took 50mg+ i tip my hate to his suicidal ass. much love D.F.!!!!!!!!