GBL status

[DexSmarts]

So im taking it that its still legal in some states? excluding:California, Hawaii, New York, Oklahoma, Oregon?

[thegoodfight]

What does swiy mean by "legal". Swim believes that it is an analog under federal law

[garbled]

Originally Posted by DexSmarts

So im taking it that its still legal in some states? excluding:California, Hawaii, New York, Oklahoma, Oregon?

How about: excluding the UNITED states.

[Pomzazed]

Gamma Buterolactone is controlled substance in Thailand, and is permitted to use in industrial purpose only. License is needed in obtaining GBL here.
(This also applies to 1,4-butanediol)

[psyche]

I don't think that author is interested about it's legal status around the world, but if you're going to expand the thread to deal with legal status around the globe, I think it's totally uncontrolled in Finland. GHB is sold for worst cases of insomnia under the brand name Xyrem by prescription.

[WrtngCocaineTutorial]

I vote for extending the thread to gbl around the world.

I've seen Canada as a counrty gbl is shipped from, so I suppose it's legal there.

[thegoodfight]

Originally Posted by WrtngCocaineTutorial

I vote for extending the thread to gbl around the world.

I've seen Canada as a counrty gbl is shipped from, so I suppose it's legal there.

Swim second's this!
GBL is made by a few companies in Japan and China. What is the status in those countries?

[SWIH]

100% legal in UK, and a government spokesman was recently quoted as saying there were no plans to reclassify it. woo hoo!

[SWIH]

here's an article to back that statement up:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4261788.stm

nb gbl is totally legal in UK, but ghb is definately illegal in UK

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thanks for the link, it's most appriciated

[garbled]

GBL is now a listed chemical in Canada (as of 2003). I have heard that both GBL and GHB are outlawed in Japan. As far as I know they both are illegal in Canada, USA, NZ, Australia. But, although GBL is a List 1 chemical in the US, I understand that BDO is NOT listed.

FWIW, GBL and BDO are still legal in the US, they are just illegal if intended for human consumption. Once they prove you are in possession of either "for human consumption", that's when the noose tightens. Take the case of David Calder of Scotland. Because he "knew" the GBL he was selling to Americans was intended for human consumption, he too was in violation of US law.

[boagoa]

GBL is legal in germany, but it is watched via a "voluntarily monitoring system" . vendors should check buyers and normally the should save some information like name + address...

but it's a voluntarily system, you only need to find a vendor who don't want to know who you are =)


ghb is illegal in germany.

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cheers!" didn't know that!

[zera]

The DEA threshold limit for GBL is 0 kilograms, with the only exeption being when it is sold and transported in a 4,000 kilogram or greater container. That is to say if you want to buy GBL you need to purchase a 4,000 kilogram shipment, and if you don't think Joe Schmoe is going to get a visit from his local friendly field office after ordering 4,000 kilograms of a list I chemical, you probably are too stupid to be playing chemistry.

There is no possible way that you will obtain GBL from any legitimate organization that does business in the United States, and there is no way that if customs finds you importing it that you'll get away with it (it's also illegal to import in anything less than a 4,000 kilogram container). So for all intents and purposes GBL is a controlled substance in the US.

[pillz]

swim doesnt think it is fully illegal in the usa, but if it isnt fully illegal it is definately a watched chemical just as any ephedrine products are.

[darawk]

It's not illegal in the U.S. To my knowledge, it's still sold OTC in some states(albeit, mixed in with other substances).

[pillz]

darawk, under what namebrand, or even type of product is it under?

[Nagognog2]

Read what Zera wrote. Order this stuff? In the USA? Go to jail.

CLOSED.