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98% Pure Lagochilin / Lagochiline

SWIM found something interesting on various websites and is interested to know how effective this is. This alkaloid of Lagochilus inebrians Turkestan mint seems very interesting.
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Lagochilus inebrians has long been used for its intoxicating and sedative properties by Tajik, Tatar, Turkoman and Uzbek tribesman and Shamans. A crystalline compound isolated from the plant and named lagochiline has proved to be aditerpene. Maximum quantities of lagochilinus accumulate in plants is in the phase of flowering and during fruit production (May- July).
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I snuffed a 100 milligrams of lagochilin and experienced a mellow sedative effect with some feelings of well-being and warmth that lasted until I passed out. the material was consumed after my regular opiate dosage, I ended up nodding at my computer for a few hours, which is something that DOES NOT happen much as I have a tolerance to the LOW amounts of opioids that I consume daily.
I also vaporized the lagochilin, but found that insuffilated seems to work better.
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Lagochilus species have long been used by tribesmen for their intoxicating and sedative properties . The active ingredient in all Lagochilus species is Lagochilin which is prized for its sedative and medicinal properties . These species are also used for many other things Ie: blood or vascular disorders, anti-spasmatic activity, sedation . It reduces permeability of blood vessels and aid in coagulation of the blood. It has also been used to treat certain allergies, glaucoma, and skin diseases. Lagochilin has narcotic properties, and gives a strong excitation and state of well being. It also renders antiepileptic action if used after strychnine, caffeine, corazole and camphor injections, and increases gastric secretions and increases digestive power. IT is an all time favorite in the Soviet Union .
It is not very clear to me what the correct oral dose is. 200 mg/ 0.2grams seems to be about right. Does anyone have experience with this?
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Re: 98% Pure Lagochilin / Lagochiline

I've done research on 98% Pure Lagochilin, and 25X Plant Extract:
In swim's experience anywhere from 100-300mg is a good dose. However he has a low opinion of this material. It doesn't synergize well with other substances, and is relatively expensive. Swim also found that the high grade plant extract, had a more pleasant effect than the pure Lagochilin. Both of them basically provided a weak though perceptible relaxant effect; he noticed a minor euphoric element with the plant extract, but not enough of a difference to be beyond placebo. Swim thinks this material is best used as a weak natural tranquilizer. It did seem to be effective in short term mood regulation, but a very low dose of kanna would probably be just as effective, though less noticible. Just my opinion though, hope this was helpful!

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Re: 98% Pure Lagochilin / Lagochiline

Out of curiosity I went looking and have just just found an article with the chemical structure of lagochillin if anyone is interested...

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Re: 98% Pure Lagochilin / Lagochiline

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I've done research on 98% Pure Lagochilin, and 25X Plant Extract:
In swim's experience anywhere from 100-300mg is a good dose. However he has a low opinion of this material. It doesn't synergize well with other substances, and is relatively expensive. Swim also found that the high grade plant extract, had a more pleasant effect than the pure Lagochilin. Both of them basically provided a weak though perceptible relaxant effect; he noticed a minor euphoric element with the plant extract, but not enough of a difference to be beyond placebo. Swim thinks this material is best used as a weak natural tranquilizer. It did seem to be effective in short term mood regulation, but a very low dose of kanna would probably be just as effective, though less noticible. Just my opinion though, hope this was helpful!
Did swiy just orally ingest the lagochilin, or did he also try consuming it in other ways?
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Re: 98% Pure Lagochilin / Lagochiline

Well, swim did a number of experiments with Lagochilin, though he didn't kill his stash yet. He wanted to finish his research before posting any results, but as he will have to wait a few more months before finishing I'm just going to post some of his notes now.



Insufflation of 100mg Lagochilin

Start - 11:30PM... Swim cut out a line, with some difficulty as the lagochilin was very moist and would clump together, and insufflated it. The powder felt very smooth going up his nostril, with no burning or irritation to speak of.

11:35pm... Swim can't feel his nose much, but it isn't really numb either. Hard to explain the sensation. Swim is feeling much more mellow, notices less anxiety, and maybe a bit of sedation.

11:40pm... The drip is irritating swim's throat somewhat, possibly because of earlier tobacco consumption. Its an annoying sensation, but not really anything like burning. It just feels like a mild reaction of some sort in his throat that is tickling the nerves.

12:00pm... Swim is feeling fairly chilled out. Before insufflation swim was feeling tired and weary, but after snorting the lagochilin he felt more active and didn't care to go to sleep.

**After the last comments swim stopped taking notes and went out to go party as he now had the energy and cancelled his previous plans of going to bed early. Overall the lagochilin seemed to have more of a stimulating rather than sedative effect, though anxiolytic-like properties were also noticed. Hard to evaluate the substance from this test, so swim moves on.



Oral Consumption of 200mg Lagochilin

Start - 2:30pm... Swim ate 200mg of lagochilin - from a spoon - and washed it down with some milk. Little to no taste was noted, nor any other sensations during ingestion. Before ingestion swim was feeling a bit tired and lacking in energy as he had just got done with classes.

3:00pm... Swim is noticing anxiolytic effects at this point, with his anxiety noticeably lessened. Little sedation is felt at this time though. Swim is mellowed out and clam, though no inebriation as of yet.

3:30pm... Swim is still chilled out. He doesn't exactly have complete clarity of mind, but didn't any explicitly noticeable inebriating effects either. Anxiolytic effects are maintained. Slight sedation, but find it easier to try and focus on things. Swim is very balanced overall, nice.



Unfortunately swim seems to have lost about three experience reports, two regarding insufflation and one regarding oral consumption. They were more in-depth too! He will look for them and add their commentary to this thread when he finds them.

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