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Old 26-12-2006, 08:48
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Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

The transpersonal realm generally refers to "studies [dedicated to] higher states of consciousness and transcendental experiences" out of body exp, experiences induced by psychedelics, and aspects of yoga and mediation; i.e. those exp. do not absolutely apply to the confines of spatial-time. and it seems that transpersonal experiences would apply to all person of all time. Diffusion of ego into collective unconscious is another aspect of transpersonal experiences. Ego diffusion can transpires through experiences induced by psychedelics and aspects of yoga and mediation.

One associated theory pertaining societal progression is refered to as Technological singularity; as time progresses foward, humanity's level of technological will gradually increase and gain acceleration as calendar years pass. That is, if one graphed the relationship, the independent var. would be time and the dependent var. would be measured, in this case, technological advancement. The line depicting the relation would start out slow, yet always increasing acceleration as time passes. Yet as many hundred of calendar-years pass, the advancement of technological would always increasingly accelerate. The picture below visually indicated what I am attempting to describe as technological singularity.
Wikipedia characterizes Singularity as:
"Technological singularity (often the Singularity) is a predicted future event believed to precede immense technological progress in an unprecedentedly brief time."

Black holes are a physical example of Singularity, so in the future, technology may appear to advance on the brink of infinite.
I don't want to interfere with the experience pages that pertain to OOBE's and that stuff, but this threat may represent additions and/or explicit explainations, or comments. But please orient a description of your experiences if applicable!

Please share your perspective concerning validity, reliability, and/or insight.
Put another way, what have you integrated concerning aspects that may possibly represent the transpersonal aspect of one's physical existence

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***Jung, Grof, McKenna, Frued, humanistic psychology, nanotechnology, quantum mechanics***
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Old 26-12-2006, 09:24
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

OK, BEEKSc1, you have stated your definitions.

Now, what do you want in Response?

If you give a Hint (or 2), I will give my perspective.
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Old 26-12-2006, 09:33
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

Validity, Reliability, insight
as you stated: your perspective, what have you integrated concerning aspects that may possible represent the transpersonal aspect of one's physical existence. i just wanted to keep it open of the first post
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

"Validity, Reliability, insight." Yes, but about what? The Transpersonal Realm?

"what have you integrated concerning aspects that may possibly represent the transpersonal aspect of one's physical existence." Integrated how? Do you mean: what do I believe about the subject?

"But please orient your experiences if applicable!" What does this mean?
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Old 26-12-2006, 17:34
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

for christ's sake dude, i just trying to start an open discussion about people and their perspective about the transpirations occuring outside of the realm of the metaphysical universe. and maybe how spirituality applies to the transpersonal aspect of humanity's.existance
Orient a description of your experience... I mentioned that I didn't want this page interfering with Experiences pages, but if you can apply a description of your experiences, I think it will mostly help what one is trying to convey.
like...

SWIM and some friends (3 persons) were tripping on a half of some boom-dig-a-dees. it was strange. they were completing each others sentences . they definately were all catching the same wavelength, possible the alpha wavelength? And weeks after the experience SWIM and them would come to the same realizations w/in the same time frame. yes everyone's trip is different, but the 3 of them seemed to connected by some means other than spatial-time. Information seemed to have been transmitted w/out the utilization of the 5 traditional senses. It seems that experiences similar to this may be classified as transpersonal because all persons, of all time have had the same abilities to perceive and transmitt information and knowledge, considering their access to psychedelics.
Do others think that telepathy could be classified in the transpersonal realm because of it's universal application?

notice Solidly Here,
first, a description of an experience was oriented into the intro, then a comment was posted about the experience that may have some transpersonal aspects. then a question is posed to incite more discussion.
it doesn't have to be this precise, but what do you THINK?

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Old 27-12-2006, 08:05
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

Beeks rants and raves: "for christ's sake dude, i just trying to start an open discussion about people and their perspective."

Since I am the ONLY one Posting here, you could be a little more kind, and a little less dogmatic.

This is the Best that you can give me, after my asking you a couple of questions?
You have been UN-clear. I asked for clarification. You refuse to answer me.

I have noticed this behavior, too, in some other Threads.
I think you are being snide to me.

Maybe you should stay out of the Philosophy section, if you refuse to explain what you are saying.
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Old 27-12-2006, 18:09
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

Nice projection kid; ranting and raving; you have referenced someone on another thread as a NONE-ie. And it seems your hoarding your perspective and attempting to agitate, and theres probably a very good reason for that; and it's prolly not bc you don't know what the discussion would be about.

And really I think your last statements definately makes it seems that you have something your attempting to prove. Or aren't you posting because you don't want your opinion subject to constructive criticism?
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

This is going nowhere. please behave or this thread will be shut. Do not flame someone for asking for clarity.

If you want to discuss the transpersonal realm, transpersonal experiences and technological singularity, then please make sure that you first define exactly what we are talking about and what these concepts have to do with each other. I am sure we could fill multiple threads with the discussion of the definitions alone.
Then define your question as this is not totally clear to me.

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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

Yes. But it's getting there quickly.

Have you ever tried Co-Counciling? It works wonders for when you are aggravated with another person. What you need is a feather-pillow. You place the pillow on the floor and sit in front of it while you calmly explain why you are feeling aggravated with the person. As you explain calmly your feelings, you take your fists and pound the pillow into a cloud of feathers. The person who has aggravated you now has their turn (new pillow needed) to explain how they are feeling about what you have calmly explained to them.

Once the feathers have settled, one gets a vacuum-cleaner to attempt to capture the feathers from the room. Now if that's not transpersonal - I sure don't know what you mean.

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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

Allrite, Alfa; thanks for the mediation.

The transcendental are the transpirations occurring outside the realm of the metaphysical universe; hence, the spiritual aspect of our experience while physical reality is still intact (while we are living on Earth). Physical reality can be explained or has been explained by physics and likewise studies. Basically, the transcendental is something that hard science cannot account for; and this is by nature. (This is also an assertion and prolly some opinion too.)

The transpersonal could not transpire w/out the transcendental. The transpersonal functions through the transcendental; hence, all humans consciousness is the innately the same; we have the same needs, desires, and aspirations. The mind is a garden; and whatever is implanted will grow and development.

Has anyone experienced something that was not confined to linear spatial-time?
Has anyone received explicit knowledge without the utilization of the traditional five senses?
Do others think that all persons of all times have the same innate consciousness?
Do others think that consciousness is altered by genes, experience, and thought-patterns?
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

OK, light yer sai baba incense, get yer chai tea, put on yer oliver Shanti music and dim the lights.
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The transcendental are the transpirations occurring outside the realm of the metaphysical universe; hence, the spiritual aspect of our experience while physical reality is still intact (while we are living on Earth). Physical reality can be explained or has been explained by physics and likewise studies. Basically, the transcendental is something that hard science cannot account for; and this is by nature. (This is also an assertion and prolly some opinion too.)
I do not believe in the physical realm, metaphysical realm or spiritual realm are separated, just because we humans seem to percieve it as such. We do not percieve radio waves either, but that does not mean it is not part of the physical realm. The physical realm can (partly) be explained by physics, the metaphysical by metaphysics and magick, just as the transcendental can partly be explained by magick and mysticism. Each has their sciences contributed to it.

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The transpersonal could not transpire w/out the transcendental.
Why not?
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The transpersonal functions through the transcendental; hence, all humans consciousness is the innately the same; we have the same needs, desires, and aspirations. The mind is a garden; and whatever is implanted will grow and development.
There are basic needs, which are simular yes, but other than that this world is varying and plural, not singular.

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Has anyone experienced something that was not confined to linear spatial-time?
Everytime you remember something you are defying linear spatial time. But other than that I think anyone experiences things that are not confined to linear spatial time. But it just doesn't suit our the way we categorise life and our sanity. So, things that do not confirm to 'linear reality' are mostly disregarded or deemed untrue. Why should time be linear? Because we perceive it that way? Schizophrenics don't.

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Has anyone received explicit knowledge without the utilization of the traditional five senses?
The ratio, intuition and several other senses are not included in those 5, so yes, everybody does. But if you count that most of lives impressions come trough the 5 senses and those impressions have made who you then the question can never be objectively answered.

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Do others think that all persons of all times have the same innate consciousness?
I am fairly certain my consciousness differs from yours. But I do think there is a link between consciousness. But at various levels. Group dynamics are very interesting in this regard. People turn out to be much less of an individual and much more connected. Extrapolate that to larger groups, human consciousness, collective consciousness, etc.

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Do others think that consciousness is altered by genes, experience, and thought-patterns?
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

Why do I have a sudden urge to put on an orange robe, go to the airport, and hand out flowers? Must be that damned music! Get that off the turntable! Here - have some Gregorian Chants. I'll get the Goat and the knife.
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Re: Transpersonal Realm and Technological Singluarity

lol, cheeky bastards. Perhaps as we approach technological sigularity this will provide a means to create a coherent cartography and extrapolate governing laws of transpersonal phenomenon. Is that the type of thing we're looking for in discussion here? This pretty much falls in the bailiwick of shamans and magicians as they posit that their arts are accomplishing just this sort of thing.
As far as correlating experiences monkey has certainly had experiences with p-delics that seem to fit in well with various sacred writings, the experiences (trip reports you might say) of mystics of all traditions who claim a secret technology of contacting transpersonal realms of being, when transpersonal is defined along the lines above.
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