IS this a good idea 4 comedown?

[smuttyangel]

Hi guys

newbie here - wondered on the issue of re-hydration whether taking an oral rehydration solution such as diaoralyte (uk) would be a benefit rather than trying to gauge how much fluid your taking?

Also SWIM has been taking what appears to be meth (bitter tasting white powder - seems quite strong compared to usual sweet tasting ones locally)
since Thursday - got few hours sleep last night then to work for 4 hours (SWIM partook bit more to get through Xmas day) - SWIM now run out on purpose - bit worried about 'just one more to get through the day' scenario...so now SWIM is going cold turkey ('scuse the pun) and has another shift tomorow 7am-2pm in busy shop - only one working. SWIM eaten as much as could stomach - but wonders what advice would be given to aid a more 'gentle' comedown - SWIM has prescription codine 30mg with 500mg paracetamol - would that help as the opioid effect maybe induce less of a crash.....

Oh yeah - also SWIM had first Malc X yesterday (scary - not liked) and has also been indulgin in occasional charlie whilst speeding...

HELP!

[Nicaine]

Certainly an electrolyte solution could only help (taken in moderation), unless SWIY is taking enalapril... in which case potassium intake needs to be watched.

ISO opiates are decent comedown aids, as are sleep meds like Ambien or Zopiclone, as is kratom. What SWIM no longer cares much for are benzos in general, they just don't seem to help much unless he takes an unusually high dose.

The other day SWIM ran out of his stim of choice (not meth but potent enough) and got a massive craving for pickles... he ate a whole jar in around a half hour. Must have been a sodium deficiency.

[smuttyangel]

hi

thanks so much 4 speedy reply - SWIM might try the CWE technique with co-codamol (30/500mg) Swim gets 200 tablets of this dose every 3 weeks... only thing i have a question about is the name of your chosen downers - is there a UK equivalent? SWIM doesnt recognise any of the names - however SWIM has access to alot of Amytriptaline - is this any good? SWIM still needs to function for work in 5 hours time and has to go visit the in-laws tomo....SWIM wonders whether to keep going on Billy until SWIM has a decent period of time to sleep.....SWIM also has added complication of 7 month old baby still waking at night for feeding (bottle only)

Just realised my error - its not meths SWIM been taking its Amphetamine powder (bitter taste) - sorry

Thanks xx

[~lostgurl~]

If SWIY has a baby to care for during the night then SWIM advises you see a Dr before taking any sleep aid, even some of the natural ones can be quite sedative for some folks and SWIY needs to be onto it to take care of a baby.

[Psych0naut]

Ambien (Zolpidem) is called Stilnoct in the U.K. and the rest of Europe.

[smuttyangel]

many thanks guys - and thank you lostgurl - always worried about trying to be a responsible parent - somewhat guilty about it.

SWIM has not used any other come down except sleep!

[kizevin]

Coming down from amphetamines can be intense. SWIM would advise you to take about 150mg of those codeine pills you have. SWIM would crush them up to a very fine powder then pour into a cup of cold water. The SWIM would stir thoroughly and your paracetamol will fall to the bottom and make a sludge. The codeine will mix with the water well, so the next step is to either drink it up until you hit that layer of sludge, or make sure the codeine is VERY well dissolved and pour it through a coffee filter to get that yucky paracetamol out. SWIM thinks this should help you calm down for sure and probably won't knock you out if you need to take care of your child.

[dogzz]

SWIM who had always indulged in massive quantities of stim had found that by "see-sawing" ups, then the "quick-fix" to aid in the comedown put a lot of strain on the whole nervous system. Overall temperment became very "edgy". Quick to snap from one mood to another ( 'specialy not good for a parent/child relationship )

Swim feels that if one is going to play, expect to pay. Deal with it as best you can. When swim became a parent, swim lowered the amount of stims used, so even if it was just a couple hours, sleep would always happen in the wee hours.. after everything was done ( housework, and daily chores..ya know? the neccessary things in life ) and the kids are down and sleepin. Why take more substances when doing what being a parent needs to do will exhaust you to get some rest? When using stims, it is easy to get caught up in the lie " If I do some more, I can finish up (whatever.. cleaning, washing, paperwork, laundry etc ) and be done" The problem there is next thing you know, the kids are awake, you're tired and the vicious cycle of stims and life goes on.

Not to pick on anyone, but swim has been there and done that,.. Kids deserve better. Actually swim feels sometimes the use of stims was an effort to get back that unbridled energy only kids seem to have. The reality of being a parent is sometimes it requires one to keep going, even if exhaustion is taking over. Work thru the exhaustion when at all possible, keep stims to a minimum. Try to only use them earlier in the day , kids are on a "normal" sleep/awake cycle, you need to be in the same cycle.
Most important, take care of yourself ie....eat balanced diet (for yourself and kids ) nothin but fast foods will leave an adults ass draggin. Take a good multivitamin, maybe even a few supplements (that's a whole other topic ) and drink buttloads of WATER, If you can't sleep, don't sweat it, you will when you get tired enough. use the awake time to accomplish things. You are a parent! the days of gettin spun should be over, at least till the kids are grown and on their own,....then do whatever it is you want

Just swim's opinion

[tiojio]

maybe look for some OTC muscle relaxants like Doxylamine succinate or what is it, Nyquil?

but yeah dont go takin alot of parcetamol.

[mailsuzie]

diazepam 2mg tablets...small dose and one of them and you will sleep like a baby and wake up fresh. The rehydration sachets seem to work but they can be dangerous if you mix the wrong water amount and end up with too much salts in your body