Anything out there to recreate opiates?

[pillz]

SWIm would like to know if there is anything out there that may not necessarily be an opiate but something that could recreate and opiate experience. SWIM loves opiates, however they are somewhat hard to come by. Can anybody tell me if there is anything legal, synthetic(by means of mixing chemicals) or herbal that can somewhat give an opiate experience when one doesnt actually have anymore hyrocodone, etc.?

[Nature Boy]

Marijuana would be an obvious suggestion but I'm sure SWIY has thought of this. Hash cakes, eaten cannabis in general, can produce an opiate-like effect in that it slows down the metabolism and produces painkilling effects.

Kratom is another good one that produces a relaxed effect and it's considered to be generally harmless. SWIM doesn't have much experience with it however. Blue Lotus is another safe one. Soaked into tea or wine, it produces a natural sedative effect.

[Nicaine]

Kratom is certainly opiate-like in many ways, although ISO more similar to agonist-antagonists like buprenorphine. It's not really possible to get more than moderate euphoria from kratom alone, at least without risking OD and severe illness in the process. However, it does mix well with a variety of other subbies.

[Forthesevenlakes]

SWIY could also get a hold of opium poppy pods and make a tea. However dosages must be calculated conservatively and carefully, since there is no way to calculate how much morphine, codeine, and other opioids will be in the pods. These contents vary from plant to plant, and pod to pod. Due to the trickiness of calculating the dosage with pods, SWIM would probably reccomend kratom over this.

[DrMuffy]

Well a DXM eperience is no where near an average opiate experience but the two molecules are simalar just to put that out there. Yeah kratom creates alot of the effects opiates make. In fact in SWIdr's oppinion it can be better than some opiates. Also there are more herbals products that can be combined or used alone to help with opiate-like experiences like: Kava-kava, poppy seeds (bulk), catmint, blue lotus, kanna, valerian, passionflower, and alot more. SWIY or others can just PM me if you want some help on sleep aid combos or how to get them; But remember I am NOT a real doctor, haha.

[Nature Boy]

SWIM ate a couple of grams of hash before going to bed early this morning. He's now quite groggy - much like an opiate experience only a little more tripped out feeling. I must double my recommendations on this one. SWIM is feeling blissful...