Favorite Research Chemical (RC)?

[big-lester]

only tried 2c-e, Methylone and Butylone (don't to write it, hope it good).

But my favortite is by far 2c-e

[mushroom-man]

So far, ug doses of DOC ;-)



Mush

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[snapper]

Well, SWIMs all time favorite for over a decade is DPT.
Versitile, combines well with everything, short on and off, and good body
high / visuals.

A close second would be 2-ce for all the reasons others have mentioned.
2ce and DPT are a really good combo, BTW.

5meo-AMT and TMFPP are probably my all time worst. Both produced the
worst headaches of my life, though I think that the TMFPP wins the prize
for the worst head pain ever !

Snapper

[bewilderment]

I can't believe 5meoamt has had such negative reactions. It's one
of my favs and I've never had any problems with nausea on it...well,
I've had slight nausea, but I've never vomited. It creates
intense euphoria for me and makes me hallucinate tactile, auditory,
visual I have 500mg of
it right now. I've also had friends enjoy it thoroughly.
2c-e is my favorite though because I find it similar to 5meoamt only
more intense. And I love DXM. DXM was the first chemical I
tried and some of the COV's changed my outlook on life forever.
I haven't tried
2c-i for about 3 years now, but I enjoyed it thoroughly when I mixed it
with DXM (for example I watched myself in the mirror for about 45
minutes as my face evolved into all different ethnicities. I have
250mg on the way right now


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[kinesis1337]

I just got some DOC it wasnt as intense as I wanted. Whats pretty good as far as overwhelmingly intense visuals?
So far I hear 2C-E comes close to that, but if it's anything like 2C-I it's too weak visually. Id like to see people melt and turn into blobs or whatever rather than tracers and stuff and be totally blown away similar to mescaline.... Im not looking for that 'body high' and mild visuals i'm looking for either 1) a profound mystical experience or 2) a trip where reality is almost gone and im just seeing patterns kalediscopes stars whatever.... 2ci and doc didnt do this for me.

[Pinkavvy]

2c-e is pretty visual, but so is DOC. 3mg of DOC seems to SWIM to be one of the more visual experiences available. In swims opinion DOC is on the same level as LSD when it comes to visuals.

Perhaps you watch too much fiction ... you're not going to have a music video trip like you saw on bevis and butthead do america.

DMT is probably what will satisfy you wants the most... have an intense profound mystal experience on dmt or salvia, and you'll be seeking those mild visuals you describe getting on DOC. :P

[nanobrain]

Originally Posted by kinesis1337

Id like to see people melt and turn into blobs or whatever rather than tracers and stuff

i suggest renting an animation DVD. dont think DOC is what you are after.

[Toltec]

DMT and or 20X salvia D Should do the trick!

[glogga]

^^^

Yes, DMT or Salvia. Or just stick with LSD or shrooms and take a very high dose. If you lose your ego, don't worry. You'll find it again, someday, maybe...

[treefingers49]

Most RCs won't do that for you. DPT (I wouldn't consider it an RC) would cause that kind of experience at high doses. 2C-E will cause very intense mystical experiences in many at higher doses as well.

[dmax]

I've heard good things about dumping paint in your eyes. Specifically the lead-based varieties. But seriously, I don't know why you're in search of the perfect visuals. If DOC didn't do it for you, you're trying too hard. If you need to see great visuals, you can try mind candy, available at http://www.mindcandydvd.com . It's a collection of computer "demos" where people show off what you can do programming a computer to make cool display patterns. Or a million similar things.

Alternatively, if you're just looking for "overwhelmingly intense" find yourself some DMT and be done with it. It'll make you stop craving overwhelmingly intense experiences for a while. I think that's why they made it.

[olymaster]

pet sheep didnt like 2ci, sheep found 2ce ok, but the sheep just loved DOC. doc is where it is at. great all around experience. they have done it 2 times and have only a couple bad things to say about it. DOC is champion!

[Richard_smoker]

2ci and 2ce both create a wonderful state of bliss and a mystical trip--full of visuals and happy thoughts.

DOC seemed more like LSD than the other two. Less visual, more mental... but still good, just different.

2ct2 and 2ct4 are even more visual, but not as 'mystical' as 2ce&2ci. They are also harder on the body.

If SWIM had to choose, he would say 2ci with 2ce as a close 2nd. 2nd only because it lasts a couple hours longer and isn't as 'multifunctional' as the 2ci. you can go out and have fun with others on medium and small doses of 2ci.

[nostawk]

Originally Posted by Richard_smoker

2ci and 2ce both create a wonderful state of bliss and a mystical trip--full of visuals and happy thoughts.

DOC seemed more like LSD than the other two. Less visual, more mental... but still good, just different.

2ct2 and 2ct4 are even more visual, but not as 'mystical' as 2ce&2ci. They are also harder on the body.

If SWIM had to choose, he would say 2ci with 2ce as a close 2nd. 2nd only because it lasts a couple hours longer and isn't as 'multifunctional' as the 2ci. you can go out and have fun with others on medium and small doses of 2ci.

I keep reading that some people have observed 2c-t-2 to be very visual. SWIM has found that up to 23mg only gives faint CEVs. SWIM finds it to be intensely introspective and the only remarkable visual aspect was the ability to see thinking. other than that the only mild visual reported was just faint background patterns morphing fractally.
Also swim has only had one intense experience with 2c-t-2.

[raven3davis]

In SWIMS experience, 22mg of 2c-e has blown 8mg of DOC out of the water. The mental state on DOC is nice but the visuals are far from what SWIM expected. 2c-e gave swim much better visuals and 4-ho-mipt is nice for visuals too. The visuals from 4-ho-mipt are very shroom like but not it just does not have the organic feel that shrooms and DMT have.

If you want extreme visuals then go for DPT. Its close to DMT when it comes to visual intensity.

[napoleon in rags]

The state of empathetic euphoria that a good dose of 2C-I, mixed with the fact that 2C-I never seems to put you in a bad place, no matter how much you're tripping.

SWIM would have to say 2C-I, for the subtle nuances that ALWAYS ensure a happy ride

[Nagognog2]

No two people will react in identical ways to an RC - or a non-RC for that matter. Due in part to our physiology, and in part to our psyche. Just as twins do not share identical dreams during sleep, two people will have different aspects of an RC become more manifest. Whether it's feeling safe and secure on 2-CI, or not having imagery overwhelm one on 2-CT-2. And this may change in the individual over time. The lover of 2-CI may, one day, be boiled down in the collective cauldron and have to re-assemble themself in an extremely frightening Shamanic venture on a dose of 2-CI that never did anything but make the wallpaper breathe before. And the non-visual partaker of 2-CT-2 may find themself melted into a carpet.

If your pet jellyfish must take an RC, try to make certain your jellyfish doesn't take it for granted.

[nanobrain]

^yep, and if it does, turn it into a Vietnamese jellyfish salad.

[fatal]

For outrageous visuals best would be either DMT or salvia. Really potent salvia. 2C-T-7 is also fairly spectacular as far as visuals go. A real high dose of a 4-ho/aco-XXXT (Iprocin, Methocin, Psilocin, or just good old mushrooms) will deifinitely give you some solid visuals too though. If you are looking for visual content and arent worried about the high as much in general tryptamines will likely be more interesting to you anyways so id just forget about pehenthylamines if that is how you feel.

[E Dubb]

I've tried a few rc's, and tha one i like the most is 2C-T-2, very hard trip when you take a good dose.. i measured out 40 mg's (because i took 25mg tha day before).. I felt too fucked up i layed on my couch and felt like i was in a desert. i was dehiderating, a lil bit, i knew i was ok tho because of previous experiances.
I was gettin jittery eyes like i was rollin, and mad wavy,colorful, kaleidoscope vision like o acid

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[snapper]

SWIM votes for smoked DPT, with 2CE close second. Overall, though, DPT has been SWIMs favorite for over a decade due to easily titrated effects, short duration, can maintain functionality in a public setting, and lack of body load other than tryptamine stimulation, which SWIM likes. DMT is a close third, but often too heavy for frequent use and difficult to function on.

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[rxbandit]

SWIMs favorite has got to be 2c-b, nothing is quite like a nice 50mg's. swim likes were it puts his head, the euphoria, body high, intense colorful visuals, intricate 3-d OEV.

[Nagognog2]

NOTE TO ALL: 50 milligrams of 2-CB is an overdose to most people. 20 to 25mgs. of this particular molecule is to be considered a full and maximum dosage. 30 mgs or more will cause many people to have a very terrifying experience. This is NOT suggested.

[rxbandit]

the data swims looked at has indicated a high dose is between 20-50mg's. swim thinks the effects of 25mg's is quite impressive and has heard of people going up to 100mg's without outstanding detrimental effects to ones health. but heed nagognogs words