Ritalin F*ed my life up...

[RasonUK]

I'm a big fan of drugs, but i will never advocate giving drugs to kids, especially strong drugs to treat minor problems.

Growing up i was hyper and i loved it. I was in trouble everyday and i loved it. My mum put me on ritalin and at first i loved it.

It just made me smarter, i was getting in trouble less but still messing about and getting almost straight A's(for the first time). Life was all easy.

So what am i talking about, i think that any drug taken wrong can do harm and any drug taken by the wrong person can do harm. Some people make mistakes with drugs and i don't have no pitty, some people don't get on with drugs and for them i don't got no pitty.

I have pitty though, for any underage kid given mind altering substances. Why? Minds are still developing and i don't know if that increases the risk of damage or not, but i know that if their is damage you got to live it down for a lot longer.

I was 13 been on ritz for about a year life was good and then all i remember is i started getting tired in lessons, i tried to stay awake, but it was hard.
It went on for a couple weeks and i went to my psychologist and said my drug weren't working i didn't feel the same, they put my on concerta?(why?)

No luck with that either and spent months playing aorudn with dosage and preps till i think i just stopped complaining over my summer break from school.

Then i joined my new school and becuase i was tired and stressed i got depressed, then they took some attension and sent me to a counciler.

They started giving me thrapy for depression not thinking to look at what potnesially might have been the cause(and what i know was the cause).

This went on for two years i tried to kill myself about 11 times(I weren't too good at it thankfully) i was in intense pain that ripped at your guts.

I was on all the anti-depressants but still taking ritalin and then, i stopped it, i figured it weren't helping me any, nothing really changed exept the rush of stress i got when i took it, so it must have made things alittle easier on my brain.

I didn't stop feeling depressed until i was 16 and even then life was shit, i just didn't bitch about it. I started using alcohol to relax myself, not get p*ssed just relax myself so i feel human again. That had to stop because i was risking becoming an alcoholic and my therapist said i was avoiding life.

I joined gym after i stopped being able to get decent erections with my girl and firgured if i became more manly/huge i wouldn't have the problem. I did get huge in about 6 months 200lbs, nice looking, but i still had the ED problems i ws tyring to find out why, viagra didin't work nothing did.

SWIM learnt about anti-depressants and erectile dysfunction, SWIM learnt about hormones testosterone, estrogen, prolactin etc...

SWIM started using steroids to see if they would bring my dick back to life, but they didn't...

SWIM was at a loss, SWIM was taking anti-prolactins anti-estoegens and taking steroids, so then SWIM figured it wasn't my tesosterone to blame(wc makes alot of senshihe to me now, SWIM don't think he ever had low test levels)

Then i read more about cfs(Chronic fatigue syndrome).

I had mentioned it to my phychologist when i was depressed blaming the ritlain drug for it but he was dismissive, so i kept on using,

Now i re-realsied my problem had nothing to do with my male hormones, it was my cns/adrenal system.

My doctos were dismissive when i borught what i'd learned to them, so iswitched doctors and he prescirbed me soem GHB.

Ghb is a cns depressant the oppsite of ritalin, it's the only thing that made me feel close to normal again.

Ritalin presciption is out of control in UK and USA and it's all driven by money, you can't drug kids to make them behanve it's like kiling them and worse it cna be like toturing them.

I wouldn only wish what i've been through on ym worse enemy, just so he'd know what i've been through and to see how he copes with it.

Any people with kids out there for the love of god don't give your kids ritalin or any cns stims. I won't give my kids(one coming now) no drugs no matter how outta control they are , none yall heard of the belt?

Rason

Long post, had to share, i'm still p*ssed off at my doctors.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	very interesting account, if only the health experts would listen to people with expereinces like yours
	Great experience report
	despite the self-incrimination, very good post.

[Micklemouse]

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[RasonUK]

Originally Posted by Micklemouse

Before proceeding to post in these forums, you MUST first familiarize yourself with the rules here. Pay close attention to the rules regarding self-incrimination and learn to use SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me) or equivalent. Proceeding without abiding by our rules can and will get you banned.

The rules can be found here:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/a...t.php?f=43&a=1

Thank you & Welcome.

I picked up on the menaing of SWIM when i first joined and understood why it was used having already read the rules, i didn't use the word SWIM in the above post becuase i was tired and forgot.(it was late) Won't happen again,
cheers,
Rason
P.s
Editied now and steorids are legal in my country...

[Micklemouse]

The legality of a substance in one country has no bearing on the Rules of this Forum - what is legal in one country might not be legal in another, therefore all substance use is spoken of in the third person. The use of SWiM or equivalent is non-negotiable.

Steroids are now Class C under the Misuse of Drugs Act, as is GHB. Please do a full edit as soon as possible.

[RasonUK]

Anyone ever suffered from lack of sexual desire from ritalin?

[sciencedj]

Originally Posted by RasonUK

Anyone ever suffered from lack of sexual desire from ritalin?

SWIM suffers from lack of desire during the first few hours after taking a 20 mg methylphenidate ER. However...about 5-6 hours after SWIM has ingested the methylphenidate, SWIM does sometimes get horny and take care of business.

Overall...SWIM thinks ritalin is not a "sex drug" like regular methamphetamine. Give SWIM a 1/4 gram of meth and he will masterbate for 3 days straight!!!

[boylizard]

Originally Posted by RasonUK

Anyone ever suffered from lack of sexual desire from ritalin?

no, however, whether swim snorts or swallows it, it makes it hard for swim to keep it up, but swim goes forever. hours at a time, easy. swim has failed to get it up before though, it is embarrassing.

[Rivet_Head]

No it makes SWIM want to fuck like an animal...

then again SWIM was not ever perscribed this substance and has only used it once or twice for recreational purposes.

[Lehendakari]

Originally Posted by Rivet_Head

No it makes SWIM want to fuck like an animal...

then again SWIM was not ever perscribed this substance and has only used it once or twice for recreational purposes.

It's the same think for SWIL. He started using it not long ago for recreational purposes and study. It makes him horny for kinki sex and hardcore porn and orgasms are intense, very intense. A combo mj-mph makes the perfect orgasm.

I understand however how ritalin can fuck one's hormonal system specially if taken in regular basis since childhood

[blinkKDX]

swim believes there are many factors that cause the feelings swiy described. not only dose the use of drugs effect other hormones in the body but also many other chemicals.

swiy could have been simply burnt out from stimulant use, but swim remembers how he was when he was younger, and remembers being much like what swiy described....then all of a sudden he started getting tired from things much easier.


swim suggests getting blood work done to see what all your hormones and other levels are at... swim believes there's a answer to this problem, but some doctors are too dumb to try and ask the right questions to get the right answer.

[RasonUK]

My testosterone is around 20 ,estrogen low, my prolactin is sky high, thus my testosterone is surpressed from what it should be and i've got limp dick 50/50. Anit-prolactins don't work thus i've concluded Ritalin has done damage to my dopamine system that is why i am unresponsive to agonists like cabergoline. I'm fine for now until i figure out exactly what the damage is. I've also realised i ma not feeling much emotion and have no emotional memory. It's all good as i've got a multi-million law suit now...get rich...figure out how to fix myself....live fast and free forever...yea bitch...

Wish me luck.

The ritalin made me honry as fuck at first, slowly killed drive somewhere through the depression.

[Lehendakari]

Originally Posted by RasonUK

My testosterone is around 20 ,estrogen low, my prolactin is sky high, thus my testosterone is surpressed from what it should be and i've got limp dick 50/50. Anit-prolactins don't work thus i've concluded Ritalin has done damage to my dopamine system that is why i am unresponsive to agonists like cabergoline. I'm fine for now until i figure out exactly what the damage is. I've also realised i ma not feeling much emotion and have no emotional memory. It's all good as i've got a multi-million law suit now...get rich...figure out how to fix myself....live fast and free forever...yea bitch...

Wish me luck.

The ritalin made me honry as fuck at first, slowly killed drive somewhere through the depression.

BTW did GHB help SWIY with sex problem?? GHB also gets SWIM very horny, but I think it stimulates prolactin release, so SWIY should watch out if he has prolactin issues. Or maybe it actually helped SWIM for this reason. Sounds stupid to think that if one has high prolactin levels a prolactin releaser might help, but believe me, it is possible.

And another thing being unresponsive to cabergoline is very weird, you should start thinking about prolactin being a consequence not a cause. Has SWIY smoked good weed??

Good marijuana help SWIM a lot when he was taking ssri and had low libido/delayed ejaculations.

[sciencedj]

Originally Posted by Lehendakari

Good marijuana help SWIM a lot when he was taking ssri and had low libido/delayed ejaculations.

** see note below - Just some facts SWIM found about marijuana use, testosterone, and ADD/ADHD: source = http://home.iprimus.com.au/rboon/ADDandMarijuana.htm

2. CBD & CNN are two of the cannaboids found in marijuana (which according to Anderson) research has demonstrated affects chromosomal structure. In males, it results in spermatogenesis and in women, actively affects the shape of the ovum. The gene that is affected is the same gene implicated in ADHD - on the short arm of chromosome 6.

3. Marijuana alters testosterone levels and males who have ADD tend to have mood swings exacerbated by continued use.

10. The adult ADHD brain is primarily characterised by a dopamine and sometimes a serotonin dysfunction. If an ADD adult smokes marijuana, the dopamine receptors are filled with THC instead of dopamine. This exacerbates the problem as it causes an imbalance in other neurotransmitters. There is little point in using medication for ADHD if marijuana smoking continues as the medication becomes ineffective unless massive doses are taken. Increasingly, stronger drugs are required and the progression from marijuana to speed to heroin is likely.

11. 30-40% of substance abusers (marijuana, heroin, methadone) have ADD.There are 18,000 people on methadone. If those with ADD are treated more appropriately, then maybe they caneventually get off methadone, thus actively treating the illness, not the symptoms. (Source: Anderson 1997)

**There are several studies disproving that testosterone levels are effected by marijuana use. It is still being debated to this date. Here is a link supporting the claim that pot DOES NOT affect testosterone levels:

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...s_myth16.shtml

The study contradicted a widely publicized 1974 study
by Dr. R.C. Kolodony, which reported decreased testosterone
levels in men who smoked marijuana chronically.

To the O.P. - SWIM feels what happened to you and how you were treated by doctors and psychologists is reprehensible.

[Lehendakari]

Interesting, but confusing. MJ helped SWIM ADHD to the point that he can no longer study without smoking some weed. Also he didn't notice weed decreasing ritalin effects at all.

Note that SWIM is addicted to mj for a long time, he is not addicted to ritalin and never used regularly for more than a week.

Read this:

http://www.lightparty.com/Health/Med...rijuana6A.HTML

[blinkKDX]

My testosterone is around 20 ,estrogen low, my prolactin is sky high, thus my testosterone is surpressed from what it should be and i've got limp dick 50/50. Anit-prolactins don't work thus i've concluded Ritalin has done damage to my dopamine system that is why i am unresponsive to agonists like cabergoline. I'm fine for now until i figure out exactly what the damage is. I've also realised i ma not feeling much emotion and have no emotional memory. It's all good as i've got a multi-million law suit now...get rich...figure out how to fix myself....live fast and free forever...yea bitch...

Wish me luck.

The ritalin made me honry as fuck at first, slowly killed drive somewhere through the depression.

well, swim doesnt like the idea of sueing but it will get you money swim guesses.

anyways, swiy needs to get on some form of testosterone... if swiy is a male a level of 20 is about the level of a 12 year old girl. Swiy must realize normal range is 200+.... once swiy gets on testosterone you will lose the depression you feel and be able to function once again.

[blinkKDX]

you swimmers with low test levels are missing out if you skip therapeutic testosterone.
swiy will feel like a new man, but must use real testosterone. supplemtal "test boosters" dont work worth crap.

what does swisciencedj mean by "daily testosterone supplement."? what is he using?

[sciencedj]

Originally Posted by blinkKDX

you swimmers with low test levels are missing out if you skip therapeutic testosterone.
swiy will feel like a new man, but must use real testosterone. supplemtal "test boosters" dont work worth crap.

what does swisciencedj mean by "daily testosterone supplement."? what is he using?

SWIsciencedj is using Androgel 1% (5 grams/packet) - two gel packets daily...apply to dry, clean skin.

Androgel is "real" testosterone dissolved in a gel that gets into the blood through the skin.