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Which one are usually worse?
Swim tried extasy for the first on saturday and found the come me down not nearly as horrible as a hang over after a night of heavy drinking. Is swim the only 1 |
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
SWIM enjoys the day after from MDMA. He feels very refreshed and generally in a good mood, although he could be tired if he didn't sleep well. Alcohol hangovers, if SWIM gets them, are always worse than MDMA hangovers.
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
Swim cannot remember the last time he had an alcohol Induced hangover since he adapted a set of rules which are luckily easy to abide by.
-No mixing/matching Spirits(especially highballs), Beer, Wine. etc.. -2 Litres (before bed) of water for every 2 litres of beer consumed or the equiv (ie./ 6 or so highballs) and 2 Ibuprofen or Aspirin per same. |
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
You have to look at the two in the same context to compare them.
If you have a few glasses of wine with dinner and go to sleep you most likely won't wake up feeling like shit the next day. If you take 120mg of MDMA with friends and have a good time and then go to sleep you will probably wake up feeling fairly good or maybe a bit lethargic. If you do keg stands all night and then chug half a bottle of vodka you are going to feel horrible the next day. Similarly, if you take 7-8 pills of E through the night and dance your ass off the entire time you probably won't feel especially great the next day, though I think alcohol hangover is still worse if you drink enough. Its all about being responsible and not pushing your body too far. And for both hangovers there are things you can use to help avoid the situation or help with the negative effects. SSRIs, vitimins, 5-HTP, good hydration, toast (for the carbon to help kill alcohol hangover effects), etc. There are tools to help with hangovers, though its best just to moderate use and simply avoid them altogether. |
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
Yeah, I think it goes without saying that MDMA will cause a noticable change the next day everytime while alcohol it really depends on tolerence/habits/amount. Still, if SWIM had to choose one hangover it would definitely be MDMA. MDMA hangovers are definitely a lot more tolerable than alcohol hangovers.
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
Oh schucks swim forgot all about Dimenhydrinate. A good 400-500mg dose is sometimes all thats needed. Very funky dreams are present when hovering @round 700-800mg. Altho nervous system depression among other things starts to become a concern.. just keep it below 500 and all is fine. Swim doesn't see any recreational value from this drug whatsoever except to marginally potentiate his cwe's. Even with a high dose it feels at most like the equivalent of slightly noticeable 1st plateau dxm ride.
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
SWIM has had different results coming down of of E (Take not SWIM may have a slight depression problem). First time taken SWIM had an AMAZING trip though was dead for two weeks and felt very anxious. The Second time SWIM had an Okay trip and then an okay come down about 3 days.
hangovers. SWIM has never had a horrible horrible hang over |
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
SWIM has only experienced one MDMA hangover which lasted for about a day when he described himself as being weak and feeling like "melted ice cream" however this was not quite painful bothersome but more so a reminder that last night was fantastic.
In contrast SWIM finds that hangovers suck, head ache, sore muscles, dizzy... ew! |
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
Depends. If you take a "dirty" pill that is mixed with a variety of other substances (speed in particular), it can be comparable, perhaps even worse. SWIM may sweat profusely, have bad muscle ache and be an emotional wreck. If it's MDMA and nothing else, in SWIM's experience hangovers are worse. The comedown can even be mildly pleasant, especially with a bit of Mary Jane.
One thing's for sure though: bad hangover + bad comedown = sheer hell. |
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
You say it was your first time. From SWIM's experience, for the first few times there's no real come down. That get's progressively worse with each roll. SWIM thought he was immune to X come downs for a while. Last time, he ended up half naked, wrapped in a blanket on his couch, incapable of anything. Although it had been a heavy night and sleep wasn't an option.
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
a lot of people report that they dont feel any/much comedown the next day, certainly not like some of the 'horror stories' they may be expecting. Dirty pills certainly make the comedown worse, like said abouve, speed and meth in particular, and they are quite common in pills. A lot of people may find that the more they do it, comedowns will get worse. This is made worse by not having a long enough break in between use. SWIY just had their first time, and most likely had a blast. Try and not make the mistake HEAPS of people do by going overboard in the next few months, like doing it every week or something. Try and leave at least a month in between so your brain can recover.
Some people hardly ever/never seem to get horrible comedowns. SWIM didnt used to but has had a few unpleasent ones, but nothing too bad. After ALLLL that, to answer the original question, SWIM would MUCH rather an ecstasy comedown than a booze comedown (had some shockers!) |
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
SWIM has only ever had 2 experiences on ecstacy on his first experience he had drank about 7 cans of larger before trying pills so his first come down hit him hard not the next day the same day but early hours of the morning feeling sick tired and kind of snappy.
the second of swims experience cumdown which was today is fine a little bit snappy but apart of that completely fine swim will happily take a come down instead of a hang over anyday. although swim cannot eat on hangovers or cumdowns |
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Re: Ectasy come down vs BOoze hang overs
SWIM generally finds the comedown from E more tolerable than booze but they are both bad in their own way.(and when he says E he isnt talking about pure MDMA more like a random pill probably containing MDMA and speed)
during an E comedown SWIM feels kind of afterglow, a nice warm feeling, but very spaced out, doesnt like interacting with people (unless they are in the same state) or doing anything at all other than staring at cartoons or playstation games. when hungover from booze he feels physically ill, the bad ones are horrible, and there is no relief til it wears off. but if alcohol comedowns are like a slap in the face, an ecstasy comedown is like a mild throbbing pain that wont go away. day 1 of the comedown SWIM has no chance of doing anything productive at all, and day 2 he feels a bit depressed, and wont feel completely normal til up to a week later in the worst case. with booze he has known 2 day hangovers but this is very rare, he is usually his normal self again by the afternoon of day 1. with booze its more physical whereas with E its more mental, and sometimes E comedowns just feel more deep rooted, if u know what i mean. one final note is that SWIM finds it possible with booze to have a low-ish amount and avoid a hangover, and still have a good night, whereas with E he has tried taking a low dose but never managed to escape the hangover. |
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