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Old 17-09-2004, 18:42
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Black beans from these trees are toasted, pulverized and mixed with ashes or calcined shells to make psychedelic snuff called yopo by Indians in Orinoco basin in Colombia, Venezuela and possibly in southern part of Brazilian Amazon. Yopo is blown into the nostrils through bamboo tubes or snuffed by bird bone tubes. The trees grow in open plain areas, and leaves, bark and seeds contain DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and related compounds.
Effects
Snorted a short and intense DMT experience to unfold.
Smoked the experience resembles that of smoking pure DMT
D.M.T. is an extraordinary hallucinogen that lasts only a few seconds at the peak of the flash.

Usage
Yopo powder is inhaled into your nasal cavity allow DMT to pass directly into the blood.
Or smoked
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Black beans from these trees are toasted, pulverised and mixed with ashes, calcined shells or edible lime powder to make psychedelic snuff called yopo by Indians in Orinoco basin in Colombia, Venezuela and possibly in southern part of Brasilian Amazon. Yopo is blown into the nostrils through bamboo tubes or snuffed by birdbone tubes. The trees grow in open plain areas, and leaves, bark and seeds contain DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and related compounds (Schultes 1976,1977; Pachter et al. 1959).


The snuff acts rapidly and violently. Effects include excitement, numbness of the limbs, twitching of facial muscles, nausea, hallucinations and finally a deep sleep; macroscopia is frequent and enters into Waika beliefs about the spirits resident in the drug.
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Old 11-10-2004, 23:37
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this stuff is awful it tasds like you have salted peanets in your nose
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:49
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Someone I knew used it almost every day. He was addicted to the stuff.
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Old 19-10-2004, 09:58
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It's more violent than dmt and not so pleasant. Redhead and feeling of pressure in head. Otherwise quite the same. That's what the book told me
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Old 24-11-2004, 07:11
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Are yopo seeds effective if used in AYAHUASCA with syrian rue tea? Sounds like a much better way to take it than smoking/snorting Im used to drinking stuff that tastes bad. Anyways im getting some in the mail soon so I'd really like to know. (tommorrow actually)
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Old 25-11-2004, 05:00
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My packages of the yopo seeds along with syrian rue arrived today, unfortunatly no one responded about the tea but although reading a few negative reports I will try it tonight, and maybe smoke a few seeds. Im still interested in anyones thought on yopo+maoi ayahuasca, but also would like to know, how is the snuff made? I hear its made with ground yopo and ashes? There was one report with a small amount of baking soda with the snuff but I don't think I want to snort baking soda. Any response that would help me in experimenting with these seeds would be nice
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Old 26-11-2004, 17:33
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heh.


a lot of tourists from canada and the u.s. go down to mexico on vacation, and they hear about these beads (seeds) that they sell on necklaces and can "get you high". so they go and buy one of the necklaces and eat the whole damn thing straight. imagine the nauseau involved with that!!! not to mention the experience.
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Old 27-11-2004, 04:57
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Another thing I really want to know is since so far I cannot find a decent way of taking these seeds for a dmt experience. The tea made me feel like shit, so did smoking the seeds, mainly because of the seed material being smoked not the DMT.
Anyways since these seeds contain DMT/5-meo-DMT are these alcohol soluable? I was thinking of doing a standard alcohol extract leave ground seeds in rubbing alcohol for a week then filter and evaporate. Wouldn't these leave a DMT/5-meo-DMT resin? That could be smoked like hashish? If this is possible I would be very glad seeing I got about 300 of these seeds. And I hear to get effects from smokign it takes about 2-6 seeds, so I could make alot of DMT resin extract. Anyways would this work or not with DMT?
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Old 07-01-2005, 18:44
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I would tend to think that the DMT extraction elsewhere on this site would work too, but I'm not the expert chemist by any means. Search for it in the forums, and then try it. Not to hard. D





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Old 19-01-2005, 18:52
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Although Yopo contains trace amounts of DMT and somewhat higher amounts
of 5meo dmt i believe the most prevelant chemical is 5 ho DMT aka
bufotenin.

It also contains trace amounts of B carbolines which would make it
orally active without the aid of an MAOI. (although im not sure how
much carbolines are in it so i do not know the orally active dose.)




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Old 20-01-2005, 06:00
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I snorted a few lines of finely crushes seeds, no effect was noticed. Does anything need to be mixed with the snuff to make it active? I read of traditional yopo snuff mixtures but is the added mixtures neccassary? can it be snorted alone? I asked this in a different yopo thread but there was no answer. Once someone asnwers I will try the snuff again. It did not burn to much, the drainage wasn't as disgusting as I expected either.
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Old 24-01-2005, 07:02
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yea the snuff is made from about one part powdered seeds and lime powder, i have read that i can increase the effects tenfold. dunno tho, but def increases inaffects
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What you want to do is this:


Get 3-5 yopo seeds. Put them in a frying pan with no oil. Cover it with a grille or something. Turn on the heat until the husks crack. (You'll know when this happens because the seeds will become crumbly.) Grind them up as finely as possible (pestle and mortar, electric blender, whatever). Add about 20% baking soda and snort the stuff. You will have to fuck up your nose a bit; it's painful to snort, after all, it's plant material you're snorting, which is a lot different from snorting a pure chemical like cocaine. However, it's even harder to get high from smoking it. This method has worked for me. The high only lasts about 30-40 minutes, though


serotonin, eating yopo seeds will not get you high, as DMT is desroyed by monoamine oxidase before it can enter the bloodstream

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excellent info on yopo snuff preperation
This information is not excellent, baking soda is the worst way to go preparing yopo snuff, and adds to the pain
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Old 15-02-2005, 00:21
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I second hyperreals method of use. That is exactly how I prepared mine, and it definatly works. Powerfull substance. It does hurt your nose, last time I used I had tears rolling down my face. I have found this snuff far more enjoyable than salvia, but it can cause nasea. I have yet to vomit from it, but have felt like I was on the verge of doing so.
Popping the seeds on a frying pan stunk up my whole house with a not so pleasant smell. I have to wait till I can pop the seeds somewhere else before I can make more snuff.
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Old 17-02-2005, 08:18
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the seeds made from the yopo mix (Anadenanthera colubrina)can be active orally if takin with an MAOI, mainly harmaline. take or make a tea or three grams of this if one is injesting the seeds orally. be safe!
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Old 17-02-2005, 15:34
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hi


i smoked 5 seeds of A.peregrina with my girlfriend this morning (pestle and mortar) and mix it with tobacco.


this has the same smell than 5 meo dmt smoke. (i never try dmt)


and we felt very good and stone for about 15 mn.


i think that with 5 seed each we will have a good psykedelik trip
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Old 18-02-2005, 03:29
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psykochamane did you have any feeling of sickness? how about pressure on the head? Smoking would give me both of these while the head pressure is tolerable the sickness was not. For some reason the snuff was more enjoyable besides the nose burning. Maybe I should try mixing it with something, like wild dagga then smoking? (I do not smoke tobacco.)
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Old 22-02-2005, 03:52
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Well maois make dmt orally active, so as an alternative to ayuhasca tea, could you just grind up some syrian rue and some yopo seeds. But each seperatly in gelcaps, take the syrian rue gelcaps wait 30 minutes then take the dmt gelcaps. Would this give effects the same as ayuhuasca?
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Old 23-02-2005, 19:28
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The main chemical in YOPO is bufotenin (5-ho-dmt).

If you make an ayahuasca brew with yopo it might end up being one hell
of an unpleasant trip. (DMT and 5-meo-dmt is present in the seeds but
in very low concentration)


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Old 25-02-2005, 02:47
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hmm SWIM has used smaller lines of yopo, the feeling is nothing like the strong trip effects, but a wierd buzz is felt, Swim believes this is the bufotenin? because it is probally to small of lines to get the dmt active. It could be a small dmt effect but the buzz is wierd. Swim is able to move around and function, just with a wierd headbuzz/high. Not alot of visuals more physical/mental sensations.
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Old 02-03-2005, 11:05
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so in sublamation, worth it or not; buying the seeds, baking them, crushing them up, grinding them, grinding them once more with the baking soda, doing tons of lines of the stuff...


is all that work worth it? just wondering, might be buying some of it soon, but idk...
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I am glad I bought mine but, I cannot promise you will feel the same way. All I can say is it IS effective, and quite effective at that. If you happen to not like the snuff there is alot of other things you can do with these seeds smoke, ayahuasca, or an extraction method. If you are a fan of ethnobotanicles I think DMT is a sure win.
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Old 02-03-2005, 21:11
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allright thx. i can def say i am a fan of ethnobotanicles and psychedelics in particular! can't wait to add another peice to the puzzle with the addition of tripping dmt and similar alkoloids (5-meo-dmt, etc).i think i am going to go with ayahuasca blend considering i don't like the idea of snuffing like 3 grams of yopo.
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Old 02-03-2005, 21:22
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if you go with ayahuasca i suggest you use mimosa hostilis or psychotria virdis.

I believe these 2 will give more of the effects you are looking for. (traditional DMT as opposed to 5meo and 5ho).



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