A Certain Mouse told me to type this in an old thread (tried linking to post but wouldn't play nicely!)...
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A few years ago in the U.K. there were white blotters
going about called 'Bliss', reportedly LSD-27. A very
clear, functional trip(swim used to go shopping on
them!), but without the visual delights or childlike
nature of 25; almost but not quite like 2cb, and
definitely with a taste and body load of LSD. Very nice
little chem, whatever it was, but if swim'd been
expecting 25, then would definitely have been a tad
disappointed!
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This was in the mid-late nineties.
This found in the depths of the internet...
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I have it on relatively good authority that LSD 27 is otherwise called bliss. What I was told is that "acid" was the result of the 25th batch that Hoffman whipped up, and bliss, while I have no idea as to it's chemical differences to LSD25, was apparently the result of his 27th batch. More than that I don't know. It was on blotter and had noticeably different effects, being more similar to MDMA, than acid. Not much in the way of visuals, and less fuzzy than MDMA, mostly there's an intense euphoria like whole body vinegar strokes. I've had it twice from the same source and never heard of it anywhere else. This guys name for whatever it was, "bliss", was very apt though.
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First i think I've found the source of the LSD-27 myth in an article from 'Time Out magazine, which refers to "bliss" as LSD-27, which may be where it came from, or else somebody else just regurgitated what they's been told.
I did find references to a drug called "bliss" or "bliss extra" as, guess what, an ecstacy alternative. The active ingredient is TMA-2.
Here is some blurb...
Calamus is the supplier of the chemicals asarone and �-asarone, both of which are metabolized into the compound TMA-2 [which has ten times the potency of mescaline] and various sesquiterpenes and minor substituted aromatics that produce their own unique effects. TMA-2 is a known psychedelic with interesting dose related effects that start with stimulation and progress to a warmer deeper effect and finally to fully psychedelic effects.
Bliss Extra contains enough Calamus extract to cause the prevalence of Calamus' more stimulating properties to prevail. As the amount of Calamus consumed increases, its effects change from being an MDMA like stimulant, to a more LSD like hallucinogen, and as the dose increases further the effects become more Ketamine related, with �out of body� experiences reported with extremely high doses.
Calamus usage has been noted in the Cree Indians of Northern Alberta who chew it for oral hygiene and as a stimulating tonic that in relatively large quantities cause one to �walk a foot above the ground�. They apparently suffer no unpleasant side effects. In fact, those who use it seem to be in better general health than those who do not.
The plant also has many medical uses and has a proven record of safe and effective use for these purposes.
N.B. Contraindications for MAOI�s.
There are recommendations for this product to be borne in mind as it contains compounds [amines and amine precursors] that in the presence of MAOI�s and in the right conditions can lead to un-desired interactions. Joint consumption with of these products and MAOI�s from medical or other sources should be avoided [this is specifically mentioned for Calamus].
Sounds like the chappy. I looked in Tihkal as well, and it does add up.
I also found this on MAPS:
Mix some sugar and food dye in a little water, and drop a little onto a =
piece of thick, absorbant paper. I expect that you may be surprised by =
how much sugar that paper can hold without losing it's flexibility. =
Certainly LSD is not the only psychedelic or hallucinogen that can be =
stored in pieces of paper. (Paper is, after all, sponge-like when =
examined closely.) Other drugs, like methamphetamine, are certainly =
strong enough to be distributed that way too. A drug called "bliss" is =
reportedly sold on blotter paper in England; and the effects of this may =
be very like MDMA - according to posts on alt.drugs. uk.=20
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Edited by explorer on 3/15/01 08:44 AM.
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Others in the same thread debunked the TMA-2 on blotter theory, saying that there was no way it could fit, preferring a DOx chemical to fit the bill. Although not impossible, the likelihood in Briton in the early to mid-nineties - early Noughties is low, & A Certain Mouse reported little visual disturbance at the doses taken, but many of the sensations described above, & in other reports of low dose TMA-2. It is related to mescaline I believe, & at higher doses has a distinct psychedelic edge by all accounts.
Bottom line though, it could be anything. trip reports welcome if SWiY mongoose gets the opportunity
05-12-2006, 06:10
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