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Old 30-11-2006, 23:45
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empathogen and euphoric?
Wich are the most empathogen,euphoric,mood enhancer tryptamine with low hallucinogen proprieties?

SWIM thinks 5-Meo-AMT, in low doses(0.5mg-2.5mg to avoid nausea&headache) is a good one.
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Re: empathogen and euphoric?
cool one
but legal ones?
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Re: empathogen and euphoric?
I know 2c-i is not a tryptamine, but SWIM has found that sub 5mg doses produce some euphoric mood enhancing effects with very little hallucinogenic effects.
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Re: empathogen and euphoric?
so SWIM was right!
SWIM was thinking that the best phenetylamine for him would be 2-ci, for high empathogen/low hallucingoen effect!

however SWIM was worried because tryptamines were serotonin agonist, and phenetylamines were serotonin releasers thus phenetylamines could have an "extasy-like" neurotoxicity, and saw tryptamines as safest.

So SWIM was searching for a tryptamine with empathogen effects
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Re: empathogen and euphoric?
5-meo-mipt or if you don't care about legal status Foxy-Methyoxy 5-meo-dipt.

SWIM thinks you could just take under 300mg DXM through in gelcaps for, "I get what you're saying so touch me!" effects.
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Re: empathogen and euphoric?
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so SWIM was right!
SWIM was thinking that the best phenetylamine for him would be 2-ci, for high empathogen/low hallucingoen effect!

however SWIM was worried because tryptamines were serotonin agonist, and phenetylamines were serotonin releasers thus phenetylamines could have an "extasy-like" neurotoxicity, and saw tryptamines as safest.

So SWIM was searching for a tryptamine with empathogen effects
Make no mistake here: 2-CI in amounts (varies from individual) from 10mg - 30mg is a powerful psychedelic similar to mescaline. Some either stupid or shady characters have tried to pass it off as being like MDMA. It is not. MDMA is MDMA and acts as an entactogenic. 2-CI is a full-on psychedelic with all the benefits and risks of it's better-known cousins mescaline and LSD-25.
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Re: empathogen and euphoric?
now SWIM is really confused!

however thank you for replies...

also found that 2ci is an illegal one too...
now that its off-section...but 2c-c is more mdma-like or more lsd-like?
and between those trypts?
4-ho-dipt
5-meo-det

found out reading around that the 2nd one is 'torture psychedelich'...its true?
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Re: empathogen and euphoric?
about dxm:
SWIM doesnt like it, its a known brain-damaging drug, and has depriment/depressant effects on CNS
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5-meo-dalt no doubt
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