LSA (from Morning Glory or elsewhere) vs. LSD

[frankie_DJ]

My buddy had two unsuccesfull attempts at getting high on LSD. Seems like good stuff is not that easily available where he lives. So he is fed up and considering getting some MG seeds from online sources to get hi on LSA.

My buddy wants to try a cold water extraction.

What he would like to know is, ASIDE FROM NAUSEA (which hopefully he'll be able to deal with), how is the trip different (if at all) from LSD trip?

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P.S.
Another (unrelated) question: can anyone report experience with ololiuqui seeds? It seems like there is nothing on erowid, but couple of sites claim that it gives less nausea and it has a higher concentration of LSA. If so, why hasn't it become more popular then morning glory?

[TitusCrow]

UTFSE buddy.

Although SWIM's pet monkey has never had success in achieving strong LSD-like effects from Morning Glory or Hawaiin Baby Woodrose through a cold water extraction, SWIY's buddy could search the forums and find some reports where there have illegedly been successful attempts at achieving LSD-like effects from MG and HBWR with this method.

SWIM would recommend an alcohol extraction, in SWIM's experience with his pet monkey there have been an abundant amount of positive results ( compared to using the Cold water Extraction ).

Please check this thread out before asking any other questions, SWIY's buddy should be supplied with all the information he or she needs.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ter+Extraction

Peace and Love,

[frankie_DJ]

Buddy has been UTFSE for a week now. Did your monkey use cold water extraction with destilled water? There are several reports of good trips using CWE on erowid, so my buddy wants to try that;

Why? 1)laziness, 2)not comfortable dealing with naphtha 3)not comfortable with buying reagent grade petroleum ether online 4)just too freaking time consuming


What my buddy is interested in is side by side comparision from a first hand source, someone who has done both and achieved good high on both. He would like to know what are the differences.

[mfrieze]

Swim had the worst trip ever on lsa.. just layed in his own vomit for like 6 hours

[PsychicTraveler]

Unfortunately, many don't dose cautiously enough.

[The Frog]

LSA as compared (in effects) to LSD:

Let us consider that LSD is in fact 100x the strength of LSA.

LSD effects (on Swimmy):

Colorful/bright visuals (swirling, color changes, morphing, shadows attaining life, geometric shapes, etc..) and extreme awareness of sound/music. Hearing smells, seeing sounds, etc. A vast derangement/confusion of the senses. Possible rabid change in emotion. Difficulty telling others of your inner thoughts and epiphanies....all in all an intense psychedelic experience. Do not underestimate this beautiful substance...

LSA effects (on Swimmy):

(Swimmy's source of LSA is Morning Glory seeds)

Very subtle visuals such as a simple brightening of color and light (anything more requires incredible concentration)(visuals pale greatly in comparison to LSD). As far as emotions go swimmy has only felt a wonderful inner-peace as well as peace with the world. Thoughts become more lucid and free-flowing. Not alot of confusion if any at all. Swimmy loves LSA.

As for nausea with MG's...swimmy has only felt sick one time and it wasn't even that bad. Never puked from the seeds...not once. Difficult to get down but once down its smooth sailing. HOWEVER...alot of people report nausea and occasional vomiting. Just depends on the person I guess.

As for cold water extractions...Swimmy tried one time and it was a major let down...very minimal effects. Though many users have reported wonderful effects with CWE. Naptha extraction is not that difficult it just takes patience. Read up on it as much as you can. There are many easy methods.

Swimmy just grinds up the seeds into powder and swallows in toilet paper squares. He used to just chew the seeds until thoroughly crushed and then swallow but this became stressful for the taste-buds and induced a gag-reflex. Grinding the seeds and drinking them down or just swallowing in t.p. squares is a very effective method. But start with a small dose so you can better gauge a prefered dose without getting too much at once and possibly loosing the plant-material by puking it right back up again. (though not everyone experiences nausea)

Good luck and Happy Trip!