Sniffing Piperazine mixes???

[triggerhappyloony]

Hey am just wondering if sniffing piperazine mixes give a different high (maybe better or worse, more trippy or strong euphoria like feelings) or how doses should change compared to oral administration. Like sniffing mdma is it a quicker cum up or does it give different side effects. Anyone able to help me out, would love some info about the whole topic.

cheers all

[Axel78]

That sounds disgusting. SWIM reports that just having some of the piperazines directly on the tongue for a few seconds blasts the nervous tissue into numbness. SWIM says the potential for stinging hell is high.

Have fun (or hell).

[Cuberun]

Mixes? If you're talking about branded mixes you'd be crazy to snort that stuff... there's vitamins and all kinds mixed into it, nothing you want up your nose.

Unless you've got pure stuff then you shouldn't even consider it.

[triggerhappyloony]

SWIM told me that he had bure BZP and TFMPP and told me it is uncomforatble but a good high to snort, is this correct and if so why? cheers

[inferno420]

swim read somewhere that bzp is corrosive, be carefull.

[Mona Lisa]

I've read many reports of how it apparently really stings and isn't really any better than oral ingestion (capsules, pills or bombing).

[a-SalviaLover]

Well, it depends on the salt used. Bicarbonate salt (formed from the freebase when it is left to react directly with air) is impossible to snort. The hcl salt would be caustic, too. The 2HCl salt is the least caustic and more suitable for snorting, though it's again unpleasant. After all, it's not amph where even the smell is sweet. BZP stinks grossly in addition to the considerable burn.

[thekakaman]

Swim has tried sniffing piperazines mixes. He has tried snorting a BZP/tfmpp combo and pure BZP. Both hurt like hell and he does not recommend doing to often. Effects are felt 5 - 10mins. He says from his experience that ingesting is a much better buzz.
He says snorted pure bzp produces a speedy, edgy effect slighty euphoric probly coz effects come more quicker than ingesting them. BZP/tfmpp produces a more euphoric effect but still speedy.

[Nagognog2]

There is something even more unappetizing about snorting a drug used to de-worm farm animals than swallowing one. Surely this can't be very good for a person. <shudders> I'm certainly glad to hear it was an unpleasant experience.

[Alfa]

How does it kill worms?

[Nagognog2]

I'm not sure of it's direct action. But such are/were used as anthelmintics in veterinary medicine. They kill nematodes. Not sure if the benzyl derivative (BZP) was so employed, but that is the commercial use in medicine for piperazine and related.

Source: The Merck Index