What will be the next "demon drug" ?

[Riconoen {UGC}]

With the incredible demonization of methamphetamine (which in reality is a prescription drug that you can obtain legally for ADD and narcolepsy) in the US it's just a matter of time before another drug becomes the new most evil of evil substances, I'm asking you to predict what that may be. have fun.

[Nature Boy]

It seems as though certain people are demonizing salvia divinorum already but I think the media and the government haven't had a proper dig at DMT yet. Realistically, the next major scare drug will be whichever one that rises steeply in use, possibly some random RC come to think of it.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

sally would be impossible to schedule becuase it looks like every other house plant ever. A random RC would be more pluasible. maybe methylone or 5-meo-dmt.

[Each Hit]

judging from this forum alone, methylone seems to have gained some more recent attention. if its synthesis can be done en masse and inexpensively, swim could see it really taking off. swim has never tried it, but has heard it is euphoric, causes cravings for more, and has a moderate duration of effects. its similarities to methamphetamine could also fuel those looking for "safer" alternatives (not that methylone is safer, just that it could be perceived that way when meth has been so demonized).

if not methylone, swim would not be alarmed to see a resurgence against marijuana...

[Nagognog2]

They already have the needed materials to key up the marijuana-war more, so that's my guess. They'll probably claim it causes users to turn Moslem and burn Christian Churches. This will be paid for by the liquor industry in the form of new propaganda ads from the Parthership for a Drugfree America.

[darawk]

I think mostly likely we'll see some salvia demonization soon, though i'm not sure exactly what the FDA/DEA will try to do it about it for the afore-mentioned reasons. However, I have a slightly more optimistic outlook than most of you seem to. I think we've come a long way in recent years towards reversing some of this propaganda, especially with the ubiquity of the internet and quality information resources like Erowid and Wikipedia that come up before the gov. sites on google .

We'll probably also see some demonization of DXM, as that seems to be gaining popularity. But I think we're at somewhat of a crossroads in the war on drugs, and I really don't think that there is going to be a 'new methamphetamine' in the near future.

[snapper]

Kratom will likely be hit really soon. It is becoming neck and neck with salvia.
DMT is too ubiquitous to easily be gone after. There is a fine balance between prohibition and publicity. It is when something gains mass popularity that it gets banned, like GHB. If it is only used among a small subset, prohibition will only draw attention to the substance, which could dramatically increase its popularity. DMT is work to make and work to take, so it will probably never have mass appeal or accessibility.

[Forthesevenlakes]

My bet is with propylhexedrine, if word gets around. Similar to more popular stimulants and easily available.

[snow child]

I don't know what it will be but here's a few that make you see them{demons}THAT IS. coke,doi,dob,doc,lsd,shrooms,dmt and god toO is that the same thing.hhhmmmmmmmm.

[snapper]

If propyl were next, DXM would have already been pulled. Since it is OTC, USP grade and not widely abused, it is not a good target. DXM has been heavily abused for decades now, has killed people, yet is all over the place.
Salvia and Kratom will be next - they have no OTC use, are popular and the work well doing what they do...

[darawk]

Originally Posted by snapper

If propyl were next, DXM would have already been pulled. Since it is OTC, USP grade and not widely abused, it is not a good target. DXM has been heavily abused for decades now, has killed people, yet is all over the place.
Salvia and Kratom will be next - they have no OTC use, are popular and the work well doing what they do...

AFAIK DXM itself has never killed anyone...Acetaminophen and other adulterants in cough medicine have, but not DXM. Which makes the anti-DXM legislation they're putting into place extremely paradoxical. Some states have begun putting in place laws that allow stores to sell ONLY adulterated DXM, not DXM in pure form. Even though it's ONLY adulterated DXM that causes health problems and death.

[snapper]

DXM has caused at least one death. SWIM does not have the reference on hand, but someone ordered a gram of powder and ate the whole thing. This was a few years back and it was not OTC medication, but there was a death. Also, there have been many deaths related to cordicin..

[snapper]

On Erowid, 2 deaths official, additional ones rumored. One death suicide and dose est. 3+ grams. I could not find the reference for the more recent US death. Though this is an excellent track record, keep in mind that they are using a suicide of a user of salvia as an example of how dangerous it is. DXM has more substantial toxic effects documented than that, and in unreasonably high doses, it will kill you.

[zera]

As soon as some brilliant drug chemist figures out how to strip off that damn functional group that prevents loperamide from crossing the blood-brain barrier in their kitchen then we'll have a scare far bigger than meth ever was. Imagine kids buying bottles of Immodium and converting them to opiates.

The cable news networks will be overwhelmed with glee over the ratings. Imagine the headlines "Teenagers Buying Heroin at Walgreens!" Some famous pundit (I'm looking at you O'Reilly) will demand that the lopreamide manufacturers be sentenced to death. Can't you see the Congressional hearings with the next presidential hopeful tearing into the CVS clerk who sold it to the first cute white girl who kills herself by rectal insertion (a future reader of this site no doubt) of modified loperamide:
"Why'd you sell that beautiful girl 80 bottles of Immodium?! You are worse than Satan! Didn't you realize that no one could have diarrhea that bad?"
Everyone will want to ban loperamide until they realize that preventing a few kids from getting hooked on smack isn't worth it if you have poop your pants at work everytime you have Chinese food the night before.

[INodHardOhYeah]

I think that meth is going to have the market cornered in this regard for a good while. As long as Ephedra, ephedrine, and PSE are unscheduled I don't see meth getting knocked off its throne.

[Forthesevenlakes]

Originally Posted by INodHardOhYeah

I think that meth is going to have the market cornered in this regard for a good while. As long as Ephedra, ephedrine, and PSE are unscheduled I don't see meth getting knocked off its throne.

True, and even if PSE/ephedrine were scheduled, they probably would not be in other countries (i.e. Mexico), where meth could be produced and imported, so even the act of scheduling them would not make much of a difference in meth use.

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by Riconoen {UGC}

With the incredible demonization of methamphetamine (which in reality is a prescription drug that you can obtain legally for ADD and narcolepsy) in the US it's just a matter of time before another drug becomes the new most evil of evil substances, I'm asking you to predict what that may be. have fun.

IMO whatever comes back into vogue/popularity will be the next target. Possibly coke, I heard it's coming back into fashion.

Every drug has some specific point(s) that are zeroed in on, blown way out of proportion and then harped on/repeated ad nauseum by the media. If it's coke, no doubt it'll be the cardiovascular effects.

P.S. seems like certain prescription drugs (or even the general category) have been on the thin edge of a media blitz for the last 6 years or so, but the multinational pharmaceutical companies have too much to lose & more than enough $$ to keep the topic out of the public eye.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

yeah i heard about the coke explosion form another topic in this forum. it's the 80's all over again!

and xanax, valium, vicodin and kpin have been the targets of recent "underage hit drugs" news stories on tv, these woulkd seem the most likely to become demonized.