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Old 20-11-2006, 06:55
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Problems with doing the right thing

Appreciate some comment here:

Swim was walking his dog just before last Christmas. The neighborhhod wasn't exactly know as great. Coming around the corner near the dumpster of a motel are a truckload of clear plastic bags filled with prescription pharaceuticals...

We're talking Serezone, Zoloft, Paxil, various anti psychotics swim can't remember for sure, maybe Tramazine (spelling?) and shoot a bunch of anti migraine drugs that also double as anti seizure shit. Quite a load. no painkillers or whoopee drugs per se. Just a fuck of a lot of serotin reuptake inhibitors and crap.

Even had (according to swim) a whole bunch of Vioxx. You know the anti arthritis drug that has been pulled (finally!) due to heart attacks in seniors.

It was, according to swim a real haul. Probably dumped by some unscrupulous waste disposal trucker who'd received a contract and MONEY to PROPERLY dispose of the shit and then did the dope fiend move and just chucked the shit in a non locked dumpster. Then the motel manager threw the crap out on the sidewalk where swim found it.

That's what swim figured anyway.

So what you have here is a friggin public nuisance. Swim calls local waste disposal compny: Not interested. Hazardous waste? No answer leave a recording swim declines.

Called police? No interest.

Faced w/ the possibility of some poor kid picking up a bunch of the junk and O'D-ing swim transfers the drugs to his apartment in heavier 3mil contractor trash bags and gradually gets rid of them all in the building dumpster over the next few months. He did save the Zoloft. the Paxil made him a favorite in the building as many kids take that shit for depression.

What swim figures is the drugs were nearing their published shelf life and needed to be 86'ed. All were those Freebie type "Physicians samples not for resale" etc.

OK what laws were broken by this Good Samaritan?

Should swim worry about keepin the case of Zoloft?

How many you heads out there are jealous of swim?

Will Swim go to heaven for taking all these dangerous drugs off the street?
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Old 20-11-2006, 09:37
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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

I don't think there's a universal moral code for what to do with big bags of pharmeceuticals, I think what needs to be more urgently adressed is: Why would anyone want an enormous case of Zoloft? The stuff is pure evil. Unless SWIY is depressed but can't get a prescription. None of the drugs you've mentioned have much recreational potential, and if they're needed therapeutically, well don't you have a doctor for that?
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Old 20-11-2006, 10:05
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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

What's swiy's delima exactly? Good thing swiy came across them before some kids thought they could get high and fucked up their brain chemistry that could have lead to all kinds of bad things. As long as swiy is not trying to sell any of that crap for recreation, and not trying to medicate others with these very dangerous drugs I don't see any harm in taking and having them for self-medication.
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Old 20-11-2006, 16:15
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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

According to swim anti depressants are ineffective for his anxiety issues. In fact they give him MORE nervousness. Either that or headaches. Especially the Paxil which swim dumped first.

Swim was prescibed just about every anti depressant around the past ten years but found them all too nasty to help. So he learned to take a beta blocker/blood pressure med known as "Atenolol" which worked wonders for his snxiety.

My original post was just a fact finding tour raising questions; Disposal, legality of "finders keepers" and uses for Zoloft. Swim is under the impression that Zoloft might be a less nasty med than some of the others he's tried.

Paxil & Buspar being the worst. Caused swim more paranoia than smoking a joint which he gave up long ago.

And as i said earlier: Disposal of large quantities of pharmaceuticals poses a problem. While the local cops didn't seem to care if some poor kid OD'ed on these (they were on the lookout for crack and Meth users and couldn't care less about public safety) Swim was worried about them falling into the wrong hands. That and going into a landfill where concentrations of their chemicals may cause probolems seeping into the ground water.

We're talking about an awful lot of these meds folks!

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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

Swim would flush them down the commode, the water treatment plant should take all the nasties out. Pat your swim on the back for doing a public service.
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Old 21-11-2006, 16:55
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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

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Swim would flush them down the commode, the water treatment plant should take all the nasties out. Pat your swim on the back for doing a public service.
Never flush meds down the toilet! The water treatment folks don't take the 'nasties' out at all - at least not in Briton. Unused/unwanted meds should be seen as clinical waste, bagged up & sent for incineration by the local pharmacy.
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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

Damn SWIM would have binned the lot straight away. for the reason that why the hell are they there and there was nothing of interest to SWIM even if peddling SSRI's may bring in a good income. Also do you wanna be responsible for whomever should take the knocked off pills?
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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

Can you prove swiy was disposing of it?

"This matters becuase if someone Swiy was to be cuaght they would be able to prove they're destroying it."

My law student house mate.

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Old 21-11-2006, 05:35
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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

Oh that's just what swim wanted to hear. One never knows the level the authorities will sink to in order to bust a poor good fellow like swim. So was worried about swim's state but I guess he hasn't much to worry about.

Got to admit though: It's a weird ass thing to find eight trash bags full of unused new in box anti psychotic drugs.

All gone now except teh Zoloft. So i'm told anyway.

thanx 4 the input
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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

Bongo had a similar problem. Only it wasn't bags of psyche meds (which should be thrown out in his opinion) - it was a large box full of diagrams and test results of missile-guidance components which were stamped, in red, TOP SECRET.

Bongo had a marvelous time getting rid of these. He'd gladly have traded those for the bags of psyche meds!

(he won't say what the final disposition of said was)
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Old 22-11-2006, 04:43
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Re: Problems with doing the right thing

SWim once found a Glock .40 belonging to an FBI agent. With holster, gun and ID. thirty one rounds of hollowpoint ammo w/teflon tips.

Wouldn't believe the shit it caused returning the damn things. Think federal surveilance, investigation, questions to neighbors, harrassment of swim's pharmacy staff (to get swim's cellphone number only). Bugged swim's ex wife, Grand Jury testimony, threats of pergury, OBJ, etc.

Swim survived unscathed. However made him much wiser for the next time some jack booted room temperature Federal agent comes a knockin.

If that happens swim ain't a gonna be saying shit...
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I find 10 pounds of Coke in a dumpster.
I want to prevent kids from over-dosing.
I am walking home to put it in my safe.

A cop stops me: "Hey, what have you got there?"

I say: "I just discovered this Coke in a dumpster. I'm on my way to the Police Station to have it destroyed."

Uh huh. Sure.

BUSTED. No matter what your reason is, it won't work, and shouldn't work.

Leave better-enough alone.
When in doubt, call a Cop. He can impound it for you. Or else, he will impound YOU.
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